I am working on an 18th Century edition from an autograph manuscript
(dated 1769). The final movement of this choral/orchestral work is a
fugue in cut time (4/2 time). Although the autograph manuscript
notates a full measure rest with a double whole rest, I was wondering
if I should use
The modern texts I consulted are not in complete agreement. Both Ross
and Stone say that you should use a double-whole in meters 4/2 and
larger. I agree with them, and that is what I practice. You can see it
for yourself in engravings of std. rep. pieces such as the Brahms
Requiem.
Gardner Read
Robert Patterson wrote:
If there is a better way than this, I'd like to know it too.
Couldn't you use tuplets to make whole rests appear as double whole rests?
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At 11:38 AM 12/25/2008, Robert Patterson wrote:
As for centering double wholes, I don't know a great way. A
not-so-painful workaround would be to turn off Display Whole Rests in
Empty Bars (using a staff style if need be) in the 4/2 passage. Then
apply the double-whole rest as an expression in
Do the rests retain their positioning in the parts if you use TGTools?
And would this not also break up multimeasure rests? (The expression
approach does neither, although the expressions must be manually
hidden the parts as needed.)
Obviously, if it is music with no parts (e.g., choral music)
This piece, by Domenico Cimarosa, is for SATB choir, two trombe, two
oboes, violins, celli and bass.
Martin
On Dec 25, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
Do the rests retain their positioning in the parts if you use TGTools?
And would this not also break up multimeasure rests?
At 12:06 PM 12/25/2008, Aaron Sherber wrote:
TGTools! Modify | | Shift Rests.
That should be Modify | Rests | Shift Rests, of course.
Aaron.
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At 12:52 PM 12/25/2008, Robert Patterson wrote:
Do the rests retain their positioning in the parts if you use TGTools?
Sadly, no. TGTools appears to figure out how wide the measure is and
apply an EVPU offset to the rest. The offset is the same in score and
parts, so if there are different
I suppose I could put in two whole rests in such measures, but that is
just not as professional looking as the single double whole rest. What
would happen if I entered a whole rest first (then making it
invisible), then a double whole rest on the third beat (and when the
dialogue box comes
The double-whole would not likely be aligned properly even then. When
it serves as a full-meas rest it should be graphically centered
between the barlines. Plus, unless you are using a pre-Fin04 version,
using expressions would be much easier. I would recommend using
TGTools if your Finale version
I'm using Finale 2008 on an iMac
On Dec 25, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
The double-whole would not likely be aligned properly even then. When
it serves as a full-meas rest it should be graphically centered
between the barlines. Plus, unless you are using a pre-Fin04 version,
Why don't you go into Doc Opts--Notes and Rests and change the
character for the default whole rest? or does the piece change meter?
On Dec 25, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Martin Banner wrote:
I'm using Finale 2008 on an iMac
On Dec 25, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
The double-whole
Yes, the piece changes meter (it is several movements long, and I am
doing this as one long file)
On Dec 25, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Allen Fisher wrote:
Why don't you go into Doc Opts--Notes and Rests and change the
character for the default whole rest? or does the piece change meter?
On Dec
On 25 Dec 2008 at 14:58, Allen Fisher wrote:
Why don't you go into Doc Opts--Notes and Rests and change the
character for the default whole rest? or does the piece change meter?
I recently did a piece that switches between 4/2 and 6/2 and did
exactly as you say. The only problem would have
This file contains several movements, some of which are 4/4, some 4/2.
So I don't think I can do this for the entire file. Is it possible to
do this for a specific region?
Martin
On Dec 25, 2008, at 4:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 25 Dec 2008 at 14:58, Allen Fisher wrote:
Why
At 04:46 PM 12/25/2008, David W. Fenton wrote:
It would be nice if this were something you change in staff styles.
There are a lot of things for which this is true. I sent in a feature
request a few years ago for something like staff styles that could be
used for note spacing. (I had a piece
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