Re: [Finale] Linked Parts

2009-02-22 Thread Matthew Hindson
Re. the bar numbers in parts, in the score I have bold condensed centred numbers on the bottom staff of the score, for every bar (conductors LOVE this). This is in addition to the 'normal' ones on the left hand side of the staff. But obviously not in the parts, so I select the Measure tool, drag

Re: [Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread Johannes Gebauer
The violins play the part an octave higher. It just means that they _function_ as the bass part. It is not uncommon notation. It is more often found when all string parts play in octave unisons (ie in the Manchester manuscript of the four seasons). However, I have seen this more than once. Jo

Re: [Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > In this particular movement, do the violin parts get anything other > than the bass line? Do the parts ever diverge? Vn 1 and Vn 2 do not diverge, i.e. they're the same. This movement consists of 2 Passepieds, in Passepied no 1, the stri

Re: [Finale] Linked Parts

2009-02-22 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ah so ... thank you. It's my habit, upon "finishing" a score, to save three copies: Score; Score for parts; and a score for playback. Then I can mess around with the latter two in any given way without screwing up the original. Dean Dean On Feb 22, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Christopher Smith wro

Re: [Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread John Howell
At 12:07 AM -0500 2/23/09, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:01 PM, John Howell wrote: And incidentally, while modern flutists play this music (and often play it very well), it was written for recorder, NOT for transverse flute. The range fits like a glove. The source I have s

Re: [Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:01 PM, John Howell wrote: And incidentally, while modern flutists play this music (and often play it very well), it was written for recorder, NOT for transverse flute. The range fits like a glove. The source I have specifically has "flute" not the typical recorder mark

Re: [Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread David W. Fenton
On 22 Feb 2009 at 22:41, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > David, your point about the Telemann scores being somewhat of a mess is > true. Some of cantatas are even worse, if you can believe that! You flatter me, Kim -- I was making any such point, just asking what the situation is. Surely there is som

Re: [Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread John Howell
At 8:12 PM -0500 2/22/09, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Gutten Tag: I am working on a performing edition of Telemann's "famous" A minor suite for Flute/Recorder (TWV 55:a2). I'm working on the next to last movement(s): Passepied 1 & 2. The 2nd Passepied modulates to A major, and I'm not sure what's go

Re: [Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:20 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >>You say it was a copyist's score -- what is the situation with these >>sources and Telemann's autographs? Very few of Telemann's instrumental works (and I believe that none of the orchestral suites) survive in autograph form; Telemann sp

Re: [Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread David W. Fenton
On 22 Feb 2009 at 22:13, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Harold Owen wrote: > > > That is the bass part - the continuo. Violins don't play there. > > > But there are *two* staves, and only one was marked as basso continuo. I've never seen any score from this period th

Re: [Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Harold Owen wrote: > That is the bass part - the continuo. Violins don't play there. > > But there are *two* staves, and only one was marked as basso continuo. In fact, in the next system, the copyist put treble clefs, but cancelled them and put bass clefs in. T

Re: [Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread Harold Owen
That is the bass part - the continuo. Violins don't play there. Hal Owen Gutten Tag: I am working on a performing edition of Telemann's "famous" A minor suite for Flute/Recorder (TWV 55:a2). I'm working on the next to last movement(s): Passepied 1 & 2. The 2nd Passepied modulates to A major, a

Re: [Finale] Linked Parts

2009-02-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Yes, enharmonics do, as well as actual note changes and reassignments of dynamics and new expressions. But most minor nudges do NOT transfer back to the score, unless you hold down the override key (on Mac, the apple key.) On Feb 22, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: On Feb 22,

Re: [Finale] Linked Parts

2009-02-22 Thread shirling & neueweise
you know, as soon i see the subject line "linked parts" i get shivers and stomach cramps. before you do anything in your score: 1. complain about insufficient and incomplete implemention of the linked parts feature to the powers-that-be (check the list archives if you need clarifications fo

[Finale] O.T. Telemann A minor Suite for Flute question

2009-02-22 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Gutten Tag: I am working on a performing edition of Telemann's "famous" A minor suite for Flute/Recorder (TWV 55:a2). I'm working on the next to last movement(s): Passepied 1 & 2. The 2nd Passepied modulates to A major, and I'm not sure what's going on with the 1st and 2nd violin. I have uploaded

Re: [Finale] Linked Parts

2009-02-22 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
On Feb 22, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: But in my experience (MacFin07) ... if I change something in a part (which I almost invariably must), it also goes back to the score and changes it too. At least it seems that way to me, maybe I'm just not noticing. Dean I don't

Re: [Finale] Linked Parts

2009-02-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 22, 2009, at 6:35 PM, David Froom wrote: I'm only now getting around to learning linked parts. I have run into the standard limitations -- measure numbers is the HUGE one. Why oh why would Finale want to force the same measure number sizes and other choices on parts and scores? A

[Finale] Linked Parts

2009-02-22 Thread David Froom
I'm only now getting around to learning linked parts. I have run into the standard limitations -- measure numbers is the HUGE one. Why oh why would Finale want to force the same measure number sizes and other choices on parts and scores? Anyone have a workaround other than a separate sco

Re: [Finale] Dynamics in piano staves (playback)

2009-02-22 Thread David Froom
On 22 Feb 2009, at 1:00 PM, Matthew Hindson wrote: In the 'old' days, i.e. pre-Finale 2009, when applying a dynamic to one staff in a piano part, it would play back the dynamic for both of the staves (presuming of course that they are on the same instrument). In 2009 it seems to be mo

[Finale] Changing group attributes AFTER optimising

2009-02-22 Thread Christopher Smith
I just realised that I forgot to set my piano group to NOT show the group name in my piano-vocal extraction. I have optimised and respaced individual staves very carefully, which I will lose if I remove optimisation, set the group name not to appear, then optimise again. Now that I have opt

Re: [Finale] OT: Looking for impossible notation sample

2009-02-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! I'm looking for a specific "notation sample" page that was posted on this list about 10 years ago. It's was a hand written page - created completely as a joke - with all kinds of impossible and contradicting musical notation all over the page. If I recall correc

[Finale] Finaletips site?

2009-02-22 Thread Johannes Gebauer
While I see Jari is here: Have you closed the finaletips site? Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Looking for impossible notation sample

2009-02-22 Thread Barbara Touburg
Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! I'm looking for a specific "notation sample" page that was posted on this list about 10 years ago. It's was a hand written page - created completely as a joke - with all kinds of impossible and contradicting musical notation all over the page. If I recall correc

Re: [Finale] OT: Looking for impossible notation sample

2009-02-22 Thread David McKay
Magic, Lawrence! To be performed at your next concert, Jari? David McKay 2009/2/22 Lawrence Yates > Is it the Faeries Aire and Death Waltz? > > You can find it here: > > http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.html > > There is also a video on Youtube of someone claiming to be playing it (I > haven

Re: [Finale] OT: Looking for impossible notation sample

2009-02-22 Thread Lawrence Yates
Is it the Faeries Aire and Death Waltz? You can find it here: http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.html There is also a video on Youtube of someone claiming to be playing it (I haven't seen it yet) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkjX7Q-b1IM Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk _

[Finale] OT: Looking for impossible notation sample

2009-02-22 Thread Jari Williamsson
Hello! I'm looking for a specific "notation sample" page that was posted on this list about 10 years ago. It's was a hand written page - created completely as a joke - with all kinds of impossible and contradicting musical notation all over the page. If I recall correctly, it was created by s