Re: [Finale] Re: rests in pick up measure

On 12 Mar 2009 at 23:46, Christopher Smith wrote: > Yes and furthermore, the original question was pertaining to > placement of a dotted half rest starting on beat 2 of a pickup > measure. Syncopated rests (held over to a stronger beat) are NEVER > used in modern notation, whereas syncopated

Re: [Finale] Re: rests in pick up measure

Yes and furthermore, the original question was pertaining to placement of a dotted half rest starting on beat 2 of a pickup measure. Syncopated rests (held over to a stronger beat) are NEVER used in modern notation, whereas syncopated notes are commonplace. I stand by my original answer. Ar

Re: [Finale] Re: rests in pick up measure

De gustibus, etc. The double-dotted half note on beat one is one of the most useful and commonly used ways of notating ubiquitous swing rhythms like "long note on one, short note on and of four" or (when tied to an eighth at the end of the previous bar) "long chain of long notes on the and

Re: [Finale] Has Finale's Manual's Index Improved

David W. Fenton wrote: I originally had written to look up "INDEPENDENT TIME SIGNATURES" in the manual, but realized that, knowing Finale's manuals, I should probably check to see if this was helpful or not. Whether or not the Manual has improved, the interface of the manual has improved.

Re: [Finale] rests in pick up measure

John Howell wrote: What I do NOT like is the old fashioned way of having to make sure that a pickup partial-bar is subtracted from the bar at the end of a section, but that's still sometimes used. It's a good rule, but only for music that might need to be repeated ad lib - anything that might

Re: [Finale] rests in pick up measure

On 12 Mar 2009 at 21:14, John Howell wrote: > At 8:49 PM -0400 3/12/09, David W. Fenton wrote: > >On 11 Mar 2009 at 17:35, John Howell wrote: > > > >> What I do NOT like is the old fashioned way of having to make sure > >> that a pickup partial-bar is subtracted from the bar at the end of a > >>

RE: [Finale] Has Finale's Manual's Index Improved

On 12 Mar 2009 at 17:22, Richard Yates wrote: > In Fin2007 it is under Time Signatures, subheading: Multiple Time > Signatures. That's the first place I would have looked if I needed to find > it. Well, "multiple time signatures" is not equal to "independent time signatures." And I can't see how

RE: [Finale] Has Finale's Manual's Index Improved

In Fin2007 it is under Time Signatures, subheading: Multiple Time Signatures. That's the first place I would have looked if I needed to find it. > I originally had written to look up "INDEPENDENT TIME > SIGNATURES" in the manual, but realized that, knowing > Finale's manuals, I should probably c

Re: [Finale] rests in pick up measure

At 8:49 PM -0400 3/12/09, David W. Fenton wrote: On 11 Mar 2009 at 17:35, John Howell wrote: What I do NOT like is the old fashioned way of having to make sure that a pickup partial-bar is subtracted from the bar at the end of a section, but that's still sometimes used. If there's a repeat

Re: [Finale] rests in pick up measure

On 11 Mar 2009 at 17:35, John Howell wrote: > What I do NOT like is the old fashioned way of having to make sure > that a pickup partial-bar is subtracted from the bar at the end of a > section, but that's still sometimes used. If there's a repeat, how is that avoidable? Here's an example of a

Re: [Finale] rests in pick up measure

At 12:28 PM -0700 3/11/09, Ryan Beard wrote: Hi List, In Common time, I have a pick-up measure of 3 quarter notes. For the instruments who don't play, would you prefer to see: 3 quarter rests 1 quarter rest and 1 half rest Is there a "correct" answer for this case or is it open to interpret

Re: [Finale] Re: rests in pick up measure

David W. Fenton wrote: On 12 Mar 2009 at 7:21, Christopher Smith wrote: you ignore the opinions of every recognised expert in the field who has published a book on the subject. That HAS to count for something? For me, it counts for exactly ZILCH. I've always wondered whether these "exp

[Finale] Has Finale's Manual's Index Improved

I just this afternoon answered this question on another list > > A student has a question about how to notate different time > > signatures in different scores within the same measure on a > > staff, such as in Stravinksy's Petrouchka with 7/8 against 3/4 > > notated in different instruments in

Re: [Finale] Re: rests in pick up measure

On 12 Mar 2009 at 7:21, Christopher Smith wrote: > you ignore the opinions of every recognised expert in the > field who has published a book on the subject. That HAS to count for > something? For me, it counts for exactly ZILCH. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com Davi

Re: [Finale] Re: rests in pick up measure

On 12 Mar 2009 at 6:20, Lawrence David Eden wrote: > As Finale users, our hope is that musicians can read and understand > what we want them to play and get it right the first time. With that > in mind, I avoid dotted rests. Not because they aren't allowed, but > because I think they make pla

Re: [Finale] Help Please Midi Export and Search Archives

Earl Re you question, First of all, is there a way to search the SHSU archives? I can't say about your system as your screen is a bit diffiuclt to read from where I sit. However, when I receive emails from the Finale list, each one contains the closing tag lines: _

Re: [Finale] Re: rests in pick up measure

At 7:21 AM -0400 3/12/09, Christopher Smith wrote: On Mar 12, 2009, at 12:27 AM, John Howell wrote: And Clinton Roemer manages to avoid giving any special rules about this at all. No, he doesn't. Page 40, point 19 in the edition I use, he agrees with everyone else. I don't doubt you, but

Re: [Finale] Help Please Midi Export and Search Archives

Hi Earl-- Try this for the searching question: Bob On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:02 AM, earlrs...@aol.com wrote: Hello All, First of all, is there a way to search the SHSU archives? Second, I have hairpins and articulations set in a

[Finale] Help Please Midi Export and Search Archives

Hello All, First of all, is there a way to search the SHSU archives? Second, I have hairpins and articulations set in a Finale File, and since the Smart Find function is so outstanding, I have applied the hairpins and articulations to analagous passages. Unfortunately the hairpins and art

Re: [Finale] Re: rests in pick up measure

On Mar 12, 2009, at 12:27 AM, John Howell wrote: I'm all for context, but I would like to gently point you to some "rules" regarding what's incorrect and correct practice for notating rests. Gardner Read: page 99 Essential Dictionary of Music Notation (Alfred): page 198 Ross: page 180 S

[Finale] Re: rests in pick up measure

As Finale users, our hope is that musicians can read and understand what we want them to play and get it right the first time. With that in mind, I avoid dotted rests. Not because they aren't allowed, but because I think they make players "look twice." If I can make my notation more clear I