Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread Michael Greensill
I agree that the OEM e-mail seems to be a scam. But that still doesn't address what I think is an unfair system. Can you imagine poor jazz musicians buying software like Finale if the upfront price was $2400. Now I know I don't have to upgrade every time but they always reel you in with som

Re: [Finale] you can't be serious... (tobias?!?!?!)

2009-10-02 Thread Chuck Israels
Yes, it would be nice if dynamic and hairpin alignment were included in Finale and made automatic, as I understand it is in Siblelius, and it would be nice if both companies would address the issue of not being able to show expressions (or text repeats) attached to the last measure of a mul

Re: [Finale] you can't be serious... (tobias?!?!?!)

2009-10-02 Thread John Howell
At 4:41 PM -0700 10/2/09, Chuck Israels wrote: Jef, Align Dynamic works fine in 2010, but some others don't (Transfer Layout - an essential timesaver for linked parts), but Tobias claims he is working on an update for this. Chuck I hate to be the one to point this out, since I'm not active

Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th

2009-10-02 Thread timothy price
On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Guy Hayden wrote: You have ACEbG. Half diminished in sound but what came before it and what comes after it? Correction, Playing in the key of Eb: BbCEbG: ACEbG; ACEbF; etc. timothy price timothy.pr...@valley.net _

Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th

2009-10-02 Thread timothy price
On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Guy Hayden wrote: You have ACEbG. Half diminished in sound but what came before it and what comes after it? Playing in the key of Eb: BbCE G: ACEbG; ACEbF; etc. timothy price timothy.pr...@valley.net ___ Fina

Re: [Finale] you can't be serious... (tobias?!?!?!)

2009-10-02 Thread Chuck Israels
Jef, Try mousing the TG tools menu to get it to work. Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2009, at 5:24 PM, shirling & neueweise > wrote: shit, really? i've tried all the key combos i remember working normally (cmd-*, cmd-opt-*, cmd-opt-minus/plus) and none work properly, the hairpins

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread Carl Dershem
dhbailey wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 2 Oct 2009 at 14:22, dhbailey wrote: Secondly, ... And later: Secondly, ... Is that like "the other left" or are you one of those three-handed folks, one the one hand, on the other hand, on the other hand... :) [snip] Oops. Read "The Grip

Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th

2009-10-02 Thread Williams, Jim
As I mentioned earlier, what a-c-eb-g is depends on context. As a tonic, it is Cmi6--such chords are common in swing era music such as Benny Goodman...but also found in some Bill Evans ;-) A-C-Eb-G as a ii chord is half-diminished--Ami7b5. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:43 PM, "Guy Ha

RE: [Finale] OT: minor 6th

2009-10-02 Thread Guy Hayden
Voice leading and root progression. How do you spell it and where does it go. It isn't a minor seventh, it is a half-diminished chord. A minor seventh on A would be ACEG. You have ACEbG. Half diminished in sound but what came before it and what comes after it? Guy Hayden __

Re: [Finale] you can't be serious... (tobias?!?!?!)

2009-10-02 Thread shirling & neueweise
shit, really? i've tried all the key combos i remember working normally (cmd-*, cmd-opt-*, cmd-opt-minus/plus) and none work properly, the hairpins are affected but not the dynamics. Align Dynamic works fine in 2010, but some others don't (Transfer Layout - an essential timesaver for linke

Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th

2009-10-02 Thread Christopher Smith
Robert nailed it, but just for extra coverage: It seems strange to us that guys with relatively sophisticated senses of harmony, like Monk, Gillespie, Parker, etc., had, would call something that is fairly obvious to us as Am7(b5) (or A half- diminished) "Cminor chord with the 6th in the ba

Re: [Finale] you can't be serious... (tobias?!?!?!)

2009-10-02 Thread Chuck Israels
Jef, Align Dynamic works fine in 2010, but some others don't (Transfer Layout - an essential timesaver for linked parts), but Tobias claims he is working on an update for this. Chuck On Oct 2, 2009, at 1:28 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: TGTools align dynamics doesn't work in 2010!?!?

Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th

2009-10-02 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
At 11:05 +0200 02/10/09, dc wrote: >I've been playing figured bass for years and years, but know very little about >jazz, unfortunately. > >Someone (in a film) says about Th. Monk: > >"The first time I heard a chord like a minor 6th chord, with the 6th in the >bass." > >Wikipedia says: > >"The ch

Re: [Finale] TAN: Cocoa Booklet no longer working in Snow Leopard

2009-10-02 Thread Brian Williams
In OS 10.5, select "Finishing" under the 3rd pop-up menu (the one that defaults to "Copies & Pages"). There you will find an option for booklet printing that works great on my HP Laserjet 5200. I use it to print choral booklets all the time. On 10/2/09 10:00 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > I have

Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th

2009-10-02 Thread Williams, Jim
In this case, the chord in question is perhaps a minor 7, b5. Printed sheetmusic is often guilty of that mislabelling. If you see something like Bb mi6, C7(maybe with b9), F...that's a giveaway. So that mi6 is really a mi7b5 A minor third lower ("6th" in the bass) Sent from my iPhone On Oct

Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th

2009-10-02 Thread Robert Lingnau
Hi Dennis! From the chapter "Minton's Playhouse" in "To Be or Not To Bop" (Dizzy Gillespie), copied and pasted from an internet source: "Monk doesn't actually know what I showed him. But I do know some of the things he showed me. Like, the minor-sixth chord with a sixth in the bass. I fir

[Finale] you can't be serious... (tobias?!?!?!)

2009-10-02 Thread shirling & neueweise
TGTools align dynamics doesn't work in 2010!?!?! um... wow. that's a serious bummer, isn't it? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 2 Oct 2009 at 14:22, dhbailey wrote: Secondly, ... And later: Secondly, ... Is that like "the other left" or are you one of those three-handed folks, one the one hand, on the other hand, on the other hand... :) [snip] Oops. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@dav

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread Mark D Lew
>I just got an e-mail from some company called OEM software resellers, >who are offering the full Finale 2010 for $119. A savings of $480 off >the retail price. Sounds like others have identified this as a scam. But even if it's not, so what? Variable pricing is the way of the world now. Cer

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread Florence + Michael
An unsolicited mail offering you OEM software at unbeatable prices is almost certainly a scam. Have a look here: http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/faq/a/softwarescams.htm Michael On 2 Oct 2009, at 19:18, Michael Greensill wrote: I just got an e-mail from some company called OEM software res

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread arabushk
Interesting--I bought my Finale 2003 at half-price (=$300) in 2004 from a retailer in Fort Worth--still happy with it, and have not upgraded since. ajr > First off, Finale may not be authorizing those sales and > they may be pirated copies. > > Secondly, even if they are not pirated copies, they

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, October 2, 2009 2:22 pm, dhbailey wrote: > Secondly, it's important that we all remember that MakeMusic > has never forced anybody to upgrade. But their policies force that behavior for almost anyone working with clients. Because Finale cannot write files in a format compatible with any ea

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Oct 2009 at 14:22, dhbailey wrote: > Secondly, ... And later: > Secondly, ... Is that like "the other left" or are you one of those three-handed folks, one the one hand, on the other hand, on the other hand... :) Anyway, I did have a serious response. You wrote: > These days I'm the la

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 10/2/2009 2:22 PM, dhbailey wrote: Secondly, it's important that we all remember that MakeMusic has never forced anybody to upgrade. At least as far as I know, they've never put a gun to anybody's head and said "Buy this upgrade for $100 or I'll blow your head off." They have forced people wh

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Oct 2009 at 10:18, Michael Greensill wrote: > I just got an e-mail from some company called OEM software resellers, > who are offering the full Finale 2010 for $119. A savings of $480 off > the retail price. That seems coincidentally close to the upgrade price for those who've skipped a

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread dhbailey
First off, Finale may not be authorizing those sales and they may be pirated copies. Secondly, even if they are not pirated copies, they may be copies purchased from a music retailer who has gone bankrupt. In such cases all assets are sold off at auction and somebody may have paid ten-cents

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread Eric Dannewitz
They really ought to lower the "upgrade" price to $50. $119 for nothing substantial? No bug fixes? Breaks TGTools? No thanks. I really wish someone would make it possible to open all my Finale files into Sibelius. No XML, no tinkering. Just open and they look like what they did in Finale. I'd bid

[Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-02 Thread Michael Greensill
I just got an e-mail from some company called OEM software resellers, who are offering the full Finale 2010 for $119. A savings of $480 off the retail price. Is anyone else as pissed off as me that having owned Finale since 3.0 in 1992 and being forced to pay approximately $100 every year t

[Finale] finale help maxes out system on mac/FF?

2009-10-02 Thread shirling & neueweise
mac OSX.4.11 with firefox when i have the finale help page open all available CPU gets gobbled up by FF, seemingly worse than any other pages i've viewed, even with heavy javascript. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mai

[Finale] script to copy layers and strip grace notes?

2009-10-02 Thread shirling & neueweise
finale script can move / swap layers but not copy from one layer to another? i've tried "copy layer 1 to 2" and "copy layer 1 to layer 2" but can't get it to work... also there is no way to strip notes of a specific duration? here is what i want to do, in selective measures within a region:

[Finale] finale script repository

2009-10-02 Thread shirling & neueweise
is there a repository of scripts somewhere? is anyone interested in contributing to such a thing so that finale users can find and share scripts? it seems to me that many users would likely use some of the same scripts. ___ Finale mailing list Fi