Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

Michael Simpson wrote: I can't remember not knowing how to read the grand staff, but C clefs still give me more trouble than they should. I remember, from scoring my symphony for brass, that a tenor clef trombone and a Bb trumpet playing an octave higher use the same lines and spaces. There ar

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

From: John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback To: finale@shsu.edu Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 8:58 PM +0100 1/25/05, Daniel Wolf wrote: >John Howell wrote: &

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

At 8:45 AM +0100 1/26/05, Daniel Wolf wrote: John Howell wrote: The two that are omitted are French violin clef (used a lot for flute music, not violin music, in the Baroque), with G on the 1st line, and sub-bass (used in Venetian vocal music of Gabrielli's time) with F on the 5th line. For pur

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

John Howell wrote: The two that are omitted are French violin clef (used a lot for flute music, not violin music, in the Baroque), with G on the 1st line, and sub-bass (used in Venetian vocal music of Gabrielli's time) with F on the 5th line. For purposes of transposition by clef, French violin

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David W. Fenton wrote: That description with the flip "octave transpositions are ad lib." at the end seems to be rather clearly oriented towards score reading, not towards performance, where the octave is clearly *not* ad lib. So, I think the whole octave thing is pretty important. When read

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

At 12:11 AM +0100 1/26/05, Daniel Wolf wrote: You only need to memorize the following clef sequence: 1. treble 2. alto 3. bass 4. mezzo-soprano 5. baritone 6. soprano 7. tenor The two that are omitted are French violin clef (used a lot for flute music, not violin music, in the Baroque), with G on

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

On 26 Jan 2005 at 0:11, Daniel Wolf wrote: > You only need to memorize the following clef sequence: > > 1. treble > 2. alto > 3. bass > 4. mezzo-soprano > 5. baritone > 6. soprano > 7. tenor > > Each step up this sequence is equivalent to a transposition by one > step on the staff, two steps up

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

dhbailey wrote: Does anybody have a handy link to a list of the various transpositions relative to the various clefs? I know there is a horn method by Lorenzo Sansone which lists the transpositions utilizing clefs, but I don't have a copy of that book. You only need to memorize the following c

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

Daniel Wolf wrote: John Howell wrote: At 10:20 PM -0800 1/24/05, Chuck Israels wrote: Of course, if you followed that logic all the way through, you'd write the trombones in the tenor clef a lot of the time, and I don't do that. And I still have to decipher the alto clef for the viola parts (sh

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

At 8:58 PM +0100 1/25/05, Daniel Wolf wrote: John Howell wrote: At 10:20 PM -0800 1/24/05, Chuck Israels wrote: Of course, if you followed that logic all the way through, you'd write the trombones in the tenor clef a lot of the time, and I don't do that. And I still have to decipher the alto cle

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

John Howell wrote: At 10:20 PM -0800 1/24/05, Chuck Israels wrote: Of course, if you followed that logic all the way through, you'd write the trombones in the tenor clef a lot of the time, and I don't do that. And I still have to decipher the alto clef for the viola parts (shame on me for not g

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

At 10:20 PM -0800 1/24/05, Chuck Israels wrote: Of course, if you followed that logic all the way through, you'd write the trombones in the tenor clef a lot of the time, and I don't do that. And I still have to decipher the alto clef for the viola parts (shame on me for not getting used to that

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

Don Hart wrote: Thanks, Chuck, but neither octave up or octave down (+7 or -7) is doing anything to affect playback right now. Maybe it's my file. I'll experiment and let you know if I can fix it. Make certain the Transposition checkbox is checked (it should be once you define the transposition)

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

Don Hart wrote: on 1/24/05 2:45 PM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Hart / 05.1.24 / 03:31 PM wrote: But when I score the pitches as they will be written in the part, the notes I hear back are an octave too high. It's a transposed instrument. Have you set it that way? I realize i

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

On 25 Jan 2005, at 3:32 AM, Don Hart wrote: We're shooting for the same thing in the bass part, but the rub comes when I view the score in concert pitch. That (as far as I know) is a command that affects an entire file. So if I want to see my transposed Bflat clarinet in concert (down one step

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

on 1/25/05 12:20 AM, Chuck Israels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't think I understand what the problem is with writing your bass parts. > If the correct transposition is set up in your template, then you simply write > the part just as you would normally write it - as if you were doing it by

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

Dear Don, I don't think I understand what the problem is with writing your bass parts. If the correct transposition is set up in your template, then you simply write the part just as you would normally write it - as if you were doing it by hand. You write middle C, one ledger line above the bass

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I opened up one of finale's orchestra templates and saw that simplify key was checked on that bass part. That *fixed* it. Not as nice as entering the pitch where I want it once and being done with it. Kinda busts the groove. So, do all you guys that use transpositions on piccolo and bass parts

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

Thanks, Chuck, but neither octave up or octave down (+7 or -7) is doing anything to affect playback right now. Maybe it's my file. I'll experiment and let you know if I can fix it. Don on 1/24/05 9:13 PM, Chuck Israels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Don, > > This is so easy! > > First, ap

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

on 1/24/05 9:02 PM, Don Hart at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It just > meant more dynamics and articulations needing to be moved, or futzing with > 8va/8vb and notes out of the range of my keyboard, or all the above. I just realized I was confusing assigning an 8vb bass clef with an actual transpos

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

Hi Don, This is so easy! First, apply the correct transposition to the part using the staff tool. (I believe that you can enter the number 7 in the transposition box.) The notes will then appear one octave too high. so you then use the mass edit tool to re transpose that entire staff one oct

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

on 1/24/05 2:45 PM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Don Hart / 05.1.24 / 03:31 PM wrote: > >> But when I score the pitches as they will be written in the part, the notes >> I hear back are an octave too high. > > > It's a transposed instrument. Have you set it that way? > I reali

Re: [Finale] Contrabass playback

Don Hart / 05.1.24 / 03:31 PM wrote: >But when I score the pitches as they will be written in the part, the notes >I hear back are an octave too high. It's a transposed instrument. Have you set it that way? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA

[Finale] Contrabass playback

Hello everybody, I'm trying to use Finale's internal sounds for a string arrangement and everything, for the purpose at hand (I'll use GPO later), is very acceptable except for the contrabass. The actual sound is as good as the other sounds. But when I score the pitches as they will be written in