Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 May 2010 at 16:35, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > > > I'm also stunned every time I find out how backwardly compatible > > Windows is, even with old, nonstandard software. I hesitate to cast > > MS in the role of "good guy" here, but I don't know of any software > > for

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 May 2010 at 22:41, Daniel Wolf wrote: > In general, David is right that the MS operating systems have been > remarkably backward compatible and this has been a real positive > quality with Finale files. However, a year or two ago, I had a font > problem and tried to install to install my

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-28 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David W. Fenton wrote: I'm also stunned every time I find out how backwardly compatible Windows is, even with old, nonstandard software. I hesitate to cast MS in the role of "good guy" here, but I don't know of any software for DOS/Windows that postdates the introduction of the IBM PC that canno

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-28 Thread Daniel Wolf
In general, David is right that the MS operating systems have been remarkably backward compatible and this has been a real positive quality with Finale files. However, a year or two ago, I had a font problem and tried to install to install my old copy of Fontographer — in its day (frozen i

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 May 2010 at 17:34, arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote: > Finding a working copy of Windows 98 has been the biggest problem--the > only one I found bombs on any computer that is not a Dell. That's *very* odd, as the Dell OS disks are not tied to the hardware at all. I don't have any Win98 copie

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread arabushka
Finding a working copy of Windows 98 has been the biggest problem--the only one I found bombs on any computer that is not a Dell. ajr "David W. Fenton" wrote: > On 27 May 2010 at 16:11, arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote: > > > Well, I have some Copyist files trapped in a computer that needs

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 May 2010 at 16:11, arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote: > Well, I have some Copyist files trapped in a computer that needs a > fresh copy of Windows 98 to reboot. I have all the data copied to > Windows, and the program bombs after a few moves. Have you tried copying the files to a newer computer

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread arabushka
Well, I have some Copyist files trapped in a computer that needs a fresh copy of Windows 98 to reboot. I have all the data copied to Windows, and the program bombs after a few moves. ajr "David W. Fenton" wrote: > On 27 May 2010 at 15:43, John Howell wrote: > > > And computer music >

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 May 2010 at 15:43, John Howell wrote: > And computer music > files made 15 years ago can no longer be accessed > and used by any modern computers as OSs evolve. Is this really true on Windows? I am surprised at the way Apple has handled OS X versioning. So far as I can tell, if you brea

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread John Howell
At 7:12 AM -0500 5/27/10, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: dhbailey wrote: Imagine what sort of nightmares musicologists in the 30th century will have trying to decipher how those lead-sheets would have been performed! Thanks to the technology of sound recordings, I expect that musicologists of the 30

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread John Howell
At 8:31 PM -0700 5/26/10, dershem wrote: On 5/26/2010 7:55 PM, John Howell wrote: At 8:15 PM -0500 5/26/10, Patrick Sheehan wrote: Da Capos and D.S.'s should be outlawed. Why not just write it out again? Less confusion, I say. You may certainly say so. And Adrian Drove on the Sibelius List (w

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
dhbailey wrote: Imagine what sort of nightmares musicologists in the 30th century will have trying to decipher how those lead-sheets would have been performed! Thanks to the technology of sound recordings, I expect that musicologists of the 30th century will have less trouble understanding

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread dhbailey
dershem wrote: [snip] There are always arguments on either side. Use what works best and causes the fewest potential problems. [snip] Well, if you're going to think logically . . . ;-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Fi

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread dhbailey
Patrick Sheehan wrote: Da Capos and D.S.'s should be outlawed. Why not just write it out again? Less confusion, I say. You don't play outdoor concerts where breezes make limiting the number of pages open for any one piece a good thing, do you? Da Capo and D.S. should provide no more confus

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread Graeme Gerrard
Yeah, I'm with him!! On 27/05/2010, at 11:35 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: > On 26 May 2010 at 20:15, Patrick Sheehan wrote: > >> Da Capos and D.S.'s should be outlawed. Why not just write it out >> again? Less confusion, I say. > > I'm against writing out conventional forms because it can obscure

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-26 Thread dershem
On 5/26/2010 7:55 PM, John Howell wrote: At 8:15 PM -0500 5/26/10, Patrick Sheehan wrote: Da Capos and D.S.'s should be outlawed. Why not just write it out again? Less confusion, I say. You may certainly say so. And Adrian Drove on the Sibelius List (who does mostly jazz) would absolutely agre

RE: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-26 Thread John Howell
At 8:15 PM -0500 5/26/10, Patrick Sheehan wrote: Da Capos and D.S.'s should be outlawed. Why not just write it out again? Less confusion, I say. You may certainly say so. And Adrian Drove on the Sibelius List (who does mostly jazz) would absolutely agree. But back in the day when every not

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-26 Thread David W. Fenton
On 26 May 2010 at 20:15, Patrick Sheehan wrote: > Da Capos and D.S.'s should be outlawed. Why not just write it out > again? Less confusion, I say. I'm against writing out conventional forms because it can obscure the form. If you're playing and having to ask "is this exactly the same as the p

RE: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-26 Thread Patrick Sheehan
) 1-815-285-4401 (f) patricksheehanmu...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: dc [mailto:den...@free.fr] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:47 PM To: finale-shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Da capo roadmap I'm trying to figure out exactly how to play this piece. There are three Menuets, th

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-26 Thread John Howell
At 7:59 AM +0200 5/26/10, dc wrote: Thanks, John. This is a soprano clef (C1) - a French violin clef would have the piece starting on a major seventh. Oops! The clef squiggle looked like a stylized "G," so I didn't check the notes. Mea culpa! John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Mus

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-25 Thread John Howell
At 8:47 PM +0200 5/25/10, dc wrote: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to play this piece. There are three Menuets, that last of which is here: www.collins.lautre.net/files/da_capo.jpg The fermatas at the end of the first section are the standard way of indicating the "Fine" of the Da capo.

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 May 2010 at 22:25, dc wrote: > David W. Fenton écrit: > >OK, I get it now. I hadn't actually looked at the *music* to realize > >this is not a standard rounded binary menuet. The menuet itself has > >to be played AABBAA, which is indicated by the lower Da Capo at the > >end. That it ends at

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 May 2010 at 22:12, dc wrote: > David W. Fenton écrit: > >On 25 May 2010 at 20:47, dc wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to figure out exactly how to play this piece. > > > > > > There are three Menuets, that last of which is here: > > > > > > www.collins.lautre.net/files/da_capo.jpg > > > > > > The

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 May 2010 at 20:47, dc wrote: > I'm trying to figure out exactly how to play this piece. > > There are three Menuets, that last of which is here: > > www.collins.lautre.net/files/da_capo.jpg > > The fermatas at the end of the first section are the standard way of > indicating the "Fine" of