[Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-17 Thread Eric Fiedler
Friends, We've just installed Mac OS 10.8.5 on our three-year-old iMac (core i7) and are beginning to experience some weird behavior, such as disappearing scroll bars in the speedy entry and key change windows. My first thought was to trash the preferences … but couldn't find them. Can anyone te

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-17 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2013-10-17 18:14, Eric Fiedler wrote: > We've just installed Mac OS 10.8.5 on our three-year-old > iMac (core i7) and are beginning to experience some weird > behavior, such as disappearing scroll bars in the speedy > entry and key change windows. My first thought was to trash > the preferences

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
Yes, and window scroll bars are no longer persistent — they come and go as needed, iOS style. It's not a Finale thing. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Oct 17, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > On 2013-10-17 18:14, Eric Fiedler wrote: > >> We've just i

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-18 Thread Eric Fiedler
Hi Jari and Darcy, Thanks for the input. I know about the iOS-style non-persistent scroll bars in windows in general. My problem was/is the absence of arrows, for instance, in the key signature tool, where we used to be able to change the number of flats or sharps in a signature by clicking on t

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-18 Thread Michael
> But, I mean, what kind of interface is _that_!? Not a good one. Scroll bars shouldn't be being used for incremental changes such as those found in the Key Signature or Time Signature tools. Apple has provided up/down arrows to be used where a value can be altered by set increments. Finale act

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-18 Thread Eric Fiedler
Thanks, Michael, the "System Preferences>General" is a good tip. What I'm talking about you can see on the following link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hyt99as8d5si7dj/Screen%20Shot%202013-10-18.tiff While I do understand that Apple doesn't like scroll bars anymore, you must admit that such a dial

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-18 Thread Eric Fiedler
Sadly, the change to "Always Show Scroll Bars" in SystPrefs>General didn't help and I'm still confronted with the following dialog box when I want to change the key signature: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hyt99as8d5si7dj/Screen%20Shot%202013-10-18.tiff While I can deal with it (by clicking where t

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-18 Thread Michael
On 18 Oct 2013, at 12:54, Eric Fiedler wrote: > Sadly, the change to "Always Show Scroll Bars" in SystPrefs>General didn't > help and I'm still confronted with the following dialog box when I want to > change the key signature: > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/hyt99as8d5si7dj/Screen%20Shot%202013

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-18 Thread Robert Patterson
While it is true that MM now needs to change many of the scroll bars to other types of incremental controls, I can't get myself to be too upset with them. They are victims of Apple's capricious de-functionalization of scroll bars as much as we are. More so, really, because making the change will co

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-18 Thread Chuck Israels
And there is an app called "Smart Scroll" that works well for me. I recommend it. Chuck Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > While it is true that MM now needs to change many of the scroll bars to > other types of incremental controls, I can't get

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-18 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Sure that is the exact app name? Looked in the App Store from my OSX 10.7.5 desktop as well as from my OSX10.8.5 desktop and didn't see it. A version for the older desktop would be most import for my work in Finale 2012. Klaus ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-18 Thread J D Thomas
Google 'smart scroll Mac' This will be the top link.'' J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Oct 18, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: > Sure that is the exact app name? > > Looked in the App Store from my OSX 10.7.5 desktop as well as from my > OSX10.8.5 desktop and didn't see it. > >

Re: [Finale] Disappearing scrolls with OS 10.8.5

2013-10-18 Thread J D Thomas
Well, my url link didn't take. Go here: http://www.marcmoini.com/sx_en.html On Oct 18, 2013, at 7:35 AM, J D Thomas wrote: > Google 'smart scroll Mac' > > This will be the top link.'' > > J D Thomas > ThomaStudios > > On Oct 18, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre > wrote: > >> Su