Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-14 Thread terry cano
IMHO Do Not put more than 8 bars on a line.the reason drummers are forced to read at a greater distance from the music given the drumset. If there are horn hits (Big Band Jazz Style) put them above the staff at 80 % If there are no drum hits to worry about then notate the actual rhy. in th

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-14 Thread Dan Tillberg
All, this is certainly an interesting discussion. And I tend to agree with both sides - earlier I have not done anything else to the drum part than making it look good and try to compress similar measures as far as possible. Perhaps 8 or 12 bars per system or whatever - the main thing is that all

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread John Howell
At 7:38 PM -0400 9/13/09, Christopher Smith wrote: in response to John (with the greatest respect!) The alternative to "play 8" is not just pages black with notes. Bars with slashes are perfectly acceptable (once, as you said, the initial feel is established) with cues over top in small notes

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread John Howell
At 6:44 PM -0400 9/13/09, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi John, Carl gave you a whole bunch of reasons why the "play 8" indication can be a problem -- the most important of which is that there's no room for the drummer to write in his/her own kicks or cues (as there is when it's just slashes).

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread Christopher Smith
in response to John (with the greatest respect!) The alternative to "play 8" is not just pages black with notes. Bars with slashes are perfectly acceptable (once, as you said, the initial feel is established) with cues over top in small notes and stop time indicated with stemmed slashes. Th

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread Carl Dershem
John Howell wrote: At 1:43 PM -0700 9/13/09, Carl Dershem wrote: And of the drummers I work with, none like the "play 8 bars" style of drum part. They all consider it a way for lazy copyists and arrangers to get the point across. Hmmm. I did that for years when I was hand copying, and sti

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi John, Carl gave you a whole bunch of reasons why the "play 8" indication can be a problem -- the most important of which is that there's no room for the drummer to write in his/her own kicks or cues (as there is when it's just slashes). "Play 8" *might* make sense under a solo with no

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread Carl Dershem
Christopher Smith wrote: Hi Dan, I concur as well with Darcy and Carl on the "Play 8" situation. For that matter, there is no reason why a drum part has to fit on 2 pages. You can either give him a page turn during a one or two bar rest (unless he is playing dance music, he almost certainly h

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread John Howell
At 1:43 PM -0700 9/13/09, Carl Dershem wrote: And of the drummers I work with, none like the "play 8 bars" style of drum part. They all consider it a way for lazy copyists and arrangers to get the point across. Hmmm. I did that for years when I was hand copying, and still prefer it when t

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread Christopher Smith
Hi Dan, I concur as well with Darcy and Carl on the "Play 8" situation. For that matter, there is no reason why a drum part has to fit on 2 pages. You can either give him a page turn during a one or two bar rest (unless he is playing dance music, he almost certainly has one of those somewh

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Dan, FWIW, I concur with what Carl writes below. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 13 Sep 2009, at 4:43 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Dan Tillberg wrote: All, I have been explicitely asked by my drummer to try to keep the drum part down to two pages, which is unders

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread Carl Dershem
Dan Tillberg wrote: All, I have been explicitely asked by my drummer to try to keep the drum part down to two pages, which is understandable and should be possible for parts where there might be long periods of slash notation without any cues or other tempo/rhythm markings. Hmmm... I've been

Re: [Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Turn off update automatically. You can manually create MM rests as needed. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 13 Sep 2009, at 4:48 AM, Dan Tillberg wrote: All, I have been explicitely asked by my drummer to try to keep the drum part down to two pages, which is

[Finale] Drum part and multimeasure problem

2009-09-13 Thread Dan Tillberg
All, I have been explicitely asked by my drummer to try to keep the drum part down to two pages, which is understandable and should be possible for parts where there might be long periods of slash notation without any cues or other tempo/rhythm markings. My first attempt was to actually delete th