Re: [Fwd: Fw: Fw: [Finale] Elbow on conga]]

2007-02-28 Thread Carl Dershem
Christopher Smith wrote: OK, I was kind of wondering what the answer was to Darcy's question myself, but this makes it no clearer. I was thinking along the lines of pitch changes with RotoToms, but like timpani, they are notated with different pitches for changing notes, NOT one line per instru

Re: [Finale] Elbow on conga

2007-02-28 Thread John Howell
At 8:48 AM -0500 2/28/07, Darcy James Argue wrote: I used a custom two-line staff for the two congas -- twice the distance between lines than a normal staff. This allowed me to have five different pitch positions that still look like they belong to the top conga line -- the (invisible) line abo

[Finale] Elbow on conga

2007-02-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
I used a custom two-line staff for the two congas -- twice the distance between lines than a normal staff. This allowed me to have five different pitch positions that still look like they belong to the top conga line -- the (invisible) line above the the, the space above the staff line, on

Re: [Fwd: Fw: Fw: [Finale] Elbow on conga]]

2007-02-28 Thread Christopher Smith
OK, I was kind of wondering what the answer was to Darcy's question myself, but this makes it no clearer. I was thinking along the lines of pitch changes with RotoToms, but like timpani, they are notated with different pitches for changing notes, NOT one line per instrument, as for conga wr

[Fwd: Fw: Fw: [Finale] Elbow on conga]]

2007-02-27 Thread Carl Dershem
Hi Carl.I know the technique involved here, but I wasn't knowledgeable enough to provide a clear answer.I submitted it to an associate of mine, Richard who is an ethno-musicologist and teacher of both western and eastern hand drums. Here are his recommendations. I hope it is of help.

Re: [Finale] Elbow on conga

2007-02-25 Thread Andrew Stiller
I would suggest that you use the notation commonly used for the water-gong effect: Keep all the notes on the same line or space as usual, and but upward- and downward-angled arrows above the "staff." ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lis

Re: [Finale] Elbow on conga

2007-02-24 Thread John Howell
At 7:42 PM -0500 2/24/07, Darcy James Argue wrote: I have a composer who wants me to notate a conga effect -- the player plays five strokes on the conga head with his right hand while putting pressure on it with his left elbow. (Or vice versa -- it doesn't matter.) He starts with a lot of elbow

Re: [Finale] Elbow on conga

2007-02-24 Thread shirling & neueweise
What do you mean by "blank" -- you mean, like just a stem and no notehead? Hmmm. I'll have to think on that. yeah, totally clear, this is quite common and avoids clutter, and you see the angle changing (again visual cue of the resulting sound as well as the performance action), which isn't t

Re: [Finale] Elbow on conga

2007-02-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hey Jeff, What do you mean by "blank" -- you mean, like just a stem and no notehead? Hmmm. I'll have to think on that. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 24 Feb 2007, at 7:54 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: What do you think the most concise way of notating and exp

Re: [Finale] Elbow on conga

2007-02-24 Thread shirling & neueweise
The elbow effect only happens once. ah yes then the best would be to stick as close to your normal notation of the congas as possible. do the same thing using a 5-line staff. i would however suggest in general using the G/D lines (you could transpose your whole conga part down a 2nd befor

Re: [Finale] Elbow on conga

2007-02-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hey Jef, The system you mentioned isn't practical because there are two congas. I'm currently using a five-line staff with the top space indicating the high conga and the second-from-bottom space indicating the low conga -- I'd like to stick with that if possible. (I don't generally like

Re: [Finale] Elbow on conga

2007-02-24 Thread shirling & neueweise
What do you think the most concise way of notating and explaining the desired effect would be? (The part is for a classical percussionist.) since it's classical and not latin percussionist, i would go for a 2-line staff (use treble staff lines G/D) with below the line open and above the lin

[Finale] Elbow on conga

2007-02-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
I have a composer who wants me to notate a conga effect -- the player plays five strokes on the conga head with his right hand while putting pressure on it with his left elbow. (Or vice versa -- it doesn't matter.) He starts with a lot of elbow pressure but gradually applies less pressure,