[Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-15 Thread Éric Dussault
I was working on a vocal piece this week and noticed that Finale 2006 is automatically transforming common ligatures (like fi to fi for example). Once an eps is exported into a DTP program, the ligatures are gone. Is this a bug, and can someone replicate this problem? A screenshot and a pdf m

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-15 Thread Christopher Smith
I can confirm the behaviour, FinMac2006c, OSX 10.3.9. I saved an EPS which I then converted to PDF with Preview. Ligatures are automatically added in the Finale file, no way that I can find to remove them, then they are stripped once the EPS is converted to PDF, with no way to force their incl

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-15 Thread John Howell
At 10:49 PM -0500 3/15/06, Christopher Smith wrote: I can confirm the behaviour, FinMac2006c, OSX 10.3.9. I saved an EPS which I then converted to PDF with Preview. Ligatures are automatically added in the Finale file, no way that I can find to remove them, then they are stripped once the EPS

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 15, 2006, at 8:59 PM, John Howell wrote: OK, I need to ask what you specifically mean by ligatures. The reason is that I'm currently teaching an Early Music Lit course, and my students are transcribing a 15th century chanson that contains a number of ligatures. In fact early music no

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: I can confirm the behaviour, FinMac2006c, OSX 10.3.9. I saved an EPS which I then converted to PDF with Preview. Ligatures are automatically added in the Finale file, no way that I can find to remove them, then they are stripped once the EPS is converted to PDF, with

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: Éric Dussault écrit: I was working on a vocal piece this week and noticed that Finale 2006 is automatically transforming common ligatures (like fi to Þ for example). Once an eps is exported into a DTP program, the ligatures are gone. Is this a bug, and can someone replicate this prob

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: dhbailey écrit: Before jumping to conclusions about whether that really is a ligature or is actually simply two characters kerned too closely so they appear in the eps as a ligature, I would suggest that some other letter combinations be added to verse 2 and 3 and 4, right beneath

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread Éric Dussault
In fact I was talking about text ligatures, not the music. You can look at the example on the link given in the original post to see it. Le 06-03-15 à 23:59, John Howell a écrit : In fact early music notation is filled with ligatures up through and including the 16th century. I have a stra

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread Éric Dussault
Times. A system font. Le 06-03-16 à 04:18, dc a écrit : This is interesting, because I've gone through a lot of trouble to get ligatures in Finale, and never found any way to do so. What font are you using, and what kind of a font is it? Eric Dussault Finale 2006c for Mac Real-time Finale

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread Éric Dussault
look at the difference in the letters fi on the title and in the text. One is with ligature character and the othe with the two letters. Le 06-03-16 à 04:17, dhbailey a écrit : What am I missing? I'm on windows, and when I look at the two examples, I see nothing in the first example which i

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread Christopher Smith
I only tested fi, because that was the ligature that appeared in Dennis' example. I used the default lyric font from Finale's Maestro Default File, which is Times 12 plain. I went back to check other ligatures, and apparently fi and fl are the only ones substituted. Ae and oe are not, though

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 16, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: I only tested fi, because that was the ligature that appeared in Dennis' example. Sorry, of course I meant Éric's example. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.s

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread Christopher Smith
Hmm, further testing. This same effect occurs in text expressions as well. Christopher On Mar 16, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: I only tested fi, because that was the ligature that appeared in Dennis' example. I used the default lyric font from Finale's Maestro Default File,

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread John Howell
At 12:26 AM -0800 3/16/06, Mark D Lew wrote: On Mar 15, 2006, at 8:59 PM, John Howell wrote: OK, I need to ask what you specifically mean by ligatures. The reason is that I'm currently teaching an Early Music Lit course, and my students are transcribing a 15th century chanson that contains a

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-16 Thread Éric Dussault
Thank you so much Christopher for taking the time to do this, I was out today and just got back from work. I will definitely write to techsupport to know how this feature is supposed to work in normal conditions, and what is not working as expected. Le 06-03-16 à 08:57, Christopher Smith a