Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint - chord table

2008-10-23 Thread Marcello Noia
Picking up this thread and relating to chord, is there anyone in this list that built a beautiful, well readable jazz chord library and would be kind to share it (after payment of a fee, too)? I know about that beautiful font pack that one of the late contributors (sorry I cannot remember his

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint - chord table

2008-10-23 Thread Christopher Smith
I made one using Dom Casual (or Dom Regular) but it can never be what you would call beautiful because of inherent problems with character thickness and spacing when the root has a sharp or flat (G#m7 doesn't space the same way as Gm7 or Gbm7.) I'll share it for free, but I'll have to send

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-22 Thread dhbailey
Leigh Daniels wrote: And make the capital M and the lower case M look different! You mean we're supposed to read the letters, too? Wow -- the things I learn on this list! ;-) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-22 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: You should *never* use just M or m for chord symbols, regardless of the font. I know Christopher disagrees, but I prefer either the geometric symbols (∆ and -), or MA and mi. I believe Christopher uses Cmaj7 (which is okay, though I *greatly* prefer CMA7) and Cm7

Re: Re(2): [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Oh don't get me started on the JazzText font! The Z and the 2, the H and the M, the stupid 5... Before long I am going to have convinced myself to make my own inkpen font... Christopher On Oct 21, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Leigh Daniels wrote: And make the capital M and the lower case M look

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-22 Thread Marcello Noia
Unfortunately Mr. Sigler got his Jazz font bundled with Finale then completely dismissed the updates (and did not reply to emails about problems with his other Swingfont I bought many years ago). And think how beatiful are the fonts used in latest Sher Real Books Anyone has tried to use

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
If you find the JazzFont too thick, then the Inkpen font from Sibelius is positively stubby. I find it next to unusable (though I haven't tried it in Finale, only in Sibelius). Christopher On Oct 22, 2008, at 8:49 AM, Marcello Noia wrote: Unfortunately Mr. Sigler got his Jazz font bundled

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-22 Thread Dana Friedman
At 12:42 AM 10/22/2008, you wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: You should *never* use just M or m for chord symbols, regardless of the font. I know Christopher disagrees, but I prefer either the geometric symbols (? and -), or MA and mi. I believe Christopher uses Cmaj7 (which is okay, though I

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 22, 2008, at 4:33 AM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: You should *never* use just M or m for chord symbols, regardless of the font. I know Christopher disagrees, but I prefer either the geometric symbols (∆ and -), or MA and mi. I believe Christopher uses Cmaj7 (which is

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 22, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Dana Friedman wrote: I always stayed away from the - because most people use + to mean augmented. Though I have seen some people stay way from the + by writing things like C7#5.. But..if I'm to to reduce the amount a player has to read, I wouldn't want

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-22 Thread Dana Friedman
In my area b13 is the norm on Do you mean area of music? Area geographically? Culturally? Best, Dana ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 22, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Dana Friedman wrote: In my area b13 is the norm on Do you mean area of music? Area geographically? Culturally? Heh, heh! All three, but I was really referring to Montreal. I find some aspects of notation, especially in jazz, tend to be regional. Nice

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-21 Thread Ray Horton
I laughed the first time I heard of the jazz font, myself, but I do understand the purpose of it working to overcome some of the prejudice against computer-printed charts in the commercial industry. I've even used it, on occasion, when I've retyped a missing page of a handwritten part, etc.

Re(2): [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-21 Thread Leigh Daniels
And make the capital M and the lower case M look different! **Leigh On Tue, Oct 21, 2008, Ray Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, good lord, somebody fix that damn natural so it doesn't look like a sharp. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-21 Thread Darcy James Argue
You should *never* use just M or m for chord symbols, regardless of the font. I know Christopher disagrees, but I prefer either the geometric symbols (∆ and -), or MA and mi. I believe Christopher uses Cmaj7 (which is okay, though I *greatly* prefer CMA7) and Cm7 (which is fine so long

Re: [Finale] Notation readability research? Now jazz font natural complaint

2008-10-21 Thread Carl Dershem
Darcy James Argue wrote: You should *never* use just M or m for chord symbols, regardless of the font. I know Christopher disagrees, but I prefer either the geometric symbols (? and -), or MA and mi. I believe Christopher uses Cmaj7 (which is okay, though I *greatly* prefer CMA7) and Cm7