On Jul 6, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
7. 2-up printing seems to be broken. At least, I can't get it to work
with my HP 5100.
I had a similar problem in 2K7. The fix is to go into the Page Setup
dialog and select "Any Printer" from the pop-up menu, rather than the
name
On 6 Jul 2007 at 21:03, Christopher Smith wrote:
> On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:29 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > On 6 Jul 2007 at 20:21, Christopher Smith wrote:
> >
> >> I had a choral piece with 2 systems per page. The first page had
> >> the systems set at 67% to make extra room for the title, whil
On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:29 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 6 Jul 2007 at 20:21, Christopher Smith wrote:
I had a choral piece with 2 systems per page. The first page had the
systems set at 67% to make extra room for the title, while succeeding
pages were set at 75%. When I altered the layout to ad
On 6 Jul 2007 at 20:27, Christopher Smith wrote:
> On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:25 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > Now, I think that it would be good to keep hitting them on the ones
> > that he says are scheduled to be fixed, maybe three months from now,
> > and ask if they are making progress on that.
On 6 Jul 2007 at 20:21, Christopher Smith wrote:
> On Jul 6, 2007, at 7:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > On 6 Jul 2007 at 19:38, Christopher Smith wrote:
> >
> >> On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Christopher Smith wrote:
> >>>
> 16. Whe
On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:25 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
Now, I think that it would be good to keep hitting them on the ones
that he says are scheduled to be fixed, maybe three months from now,
and ask if they are making progress on that. If multiple people did
that, it would encourage them to get c
On 6 Jul 2007 at 20:13, Christopher Smith wrote:
> I got answers back from Joe in tech support abut the bugs, some of
> which were very encouraging.
I think his answers were quite good, actually.
Now, I think that it would be good to keep hitting them on the ones
that he says are scheduled to
On Jul 6, 2007, at 7:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 6 Jul 2007 at 19:38, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Christopher Smith wrote:
16. When new systems get created (say, you add measures to a
piece), they don't have the
Hi all,
I got answers back from Joe in tech support abut the bugs, some of
which were very encouraging.
#2 I didn't understand his explanation, as it seems to me that Bb
transposition up a tone means just that for notes AND chord symbols.
I told him that.
He didn't reply to #7, 2-up pri
On 6 Jul 2007 at 19:38, Christopher Smith wrote:
> On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Christopher Smith wrote:
> >
> >> 16. When new systems get created (say, you add measures to a
> >> piece), they don't have the same staff height as the previous
> >
On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Christopher Smith wrote:
16. When new systems get created (say, you add measures to a piece),
they don't have the same staff height as the previous systems. On
linked parts, there is only one way to alter this, which i
On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Christopher Smith wrote:
> 16. When new systems get created (say, you add measures to a piece),
> they don't have the same staff height as the previous systems. On
> linked parts, there is only one way to alter this, which is Page
> Layout>Resize Staff System... (the zoo
At 12:57 PM 7/6/2007, Christopher Smith wrote:
>were still present. Please, no more new features until you can get
>the meat-and-potatoes of the program working properly!
Well said. I think many of us feel that way, and I'm surprised that
Makemusic hasn't taken more notice.
What gets particul
This is a copy of a note of complaint that I sent off to the
MakeMusic techsupport. Feel free to amplify, add too, and make more
noise about any and all bugs you have bothering you. Most of them are
bugs from 2007 that I previously complained about, which is why some
of them I have noted as
You'd think...but
Yeah, I don't get it either. They use Sibelius for notation, but
SmartMusic in class. I mean, they spend a LOT of time using that program
in class. It is insane. I just wonder what evil exercises they'd put
together if they realized that Finale can make SmartM
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
[snip]> Yeah, it is pretty silly. One of the schools near where I teach,
the
instructor is all gung-ho over SmartMusic. They even flew in someone
to demo it in Feb. Yet, when I made a SmartMusic file for Giant Steps
(complete with BinaB backgrounds), they seemed to think it
dhbailey wrote:
Sibelius does produce a great looking page with default settings.
Comparing it to someone's altered Finale page, however, isn't really a
fair comparison, because someone could just as easily have done the
same in Sibelius. That they didn't feel they needed to says more than
th
On Jul 5, 2007, at 3:44 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 3:19 PM -0400 7/5/07, dhbailey wrote:
And for the folks writing traditional band/orchestra works using
traditional harmonic structures, they don't care one bit about
cross-staff notation.
And I would go out on a limb and speculate that th
At 3:19 PM -0400 7/5/07, dhbailey wrote:
Why Sibelius wins so many school site-license contracts and Finale
doesn't is something that MakeMusic needs to address. It's not
impossible, it just seems that MakeMusic has no clue what it should
be doing. It's too caught up in the SmartMusic Accom
John Howell wrote:
At 8:18 AM -0800 7/5/07, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
http://www.soundonsound.com/ has a whole page about Sibelius 5. I have
YET to see them mention Finale 2008.
dhbailey wrote:
There was a short blurb in PCWorld (at least the on-line edition)
about the release of Sibelius 5, whic
At 8:18 AM -0800 7/5/07, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
http://www.soundonsound.com/ has a whole page about Sibelius 5. I
have YET to see them mention Finale 2008.
dhbailey wrote:
There was a short blurb in PCWorld (at least the on-line edition)
about the release of Sibelius 5, which starts off by call
A few thoughts on the recent postings:
All programs have bugs. We the users must keep at the company to fix them.
They know that we matter.
If the program came out early to compete with Sibelius new version, good.
Better that Finale stays in the market than we the users have to port all ou
http://www.soundonsound.com/ has a whole page about Sibelius 5. I have
YET to see them mention Finale 2008.
dhbailey wrote:
There was a short blurb in PCWorld (at least the on-line edition)
about the release of Sibelius 5, which starts off by calling Sibelius
the world's best selling notation
At 12:02 PM 7/4/2007 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote:
>I have been able to "freeze" a spelling even after using the 9 key by
>setting my enharmonic preferences to what I want, then holding down
>the MIDI note with the Speedy cursor on the note and hitting Enter
>(numeric keypad). This effectiv
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 3 Jul 2007 at 23:17, Aaron Sherber wrote:
The documentation will open in Safari on Mac and IE on
Windows, regardless of your default browser. I hope this will be fixed
later on.
I don't know how this kind of thing is handled on OS X, but on
Windows, it's *harder* t
Steve Schow wrote:
Furtheremore, with
keyboard macros
and plugins, I can work so fast that I can't imagine Sibelius (or any
other program) being any faster.
Robert, as a new Finale user, let me just say that if you or someone like you wrote a
book on how to become a Finale power user this
At 3:43 PM +0200 7/4/07, dc wrote:
dhbailey écrit:
It's called sibelius-list and it's at yahoogroups:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sibelius-list/
will take you there.
Thanks, just signed up!
Dennis
Thanks, just signed up!
-=- (Another) Dennis
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At 7:37 PM -0400 7/4/07, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 3 Jul 2007 at 23:17, Aaron Sherber wrote:
The documentation will open in Safari on Mac and IE on
Windows, regardless of your default browser. I hope this will be fixed
later on.
I don't know how this kind of thing is handled on OS X, but o
On 3 Jul 2007 at 23:17, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> The documentation will open in Safari on Mac and IE on
> Windows, regardless of your default browser. I hope this will be fixed
> later on.
I don't know how this kind of thing is handled on OS X, but on
Windows, it's *harder* to do it that way than
Jari Williamson's web site can be really helpful as a starter. See
http://www.finaletips.nu/index.php
However, I notice that last update on the page is August 19, 2006. *sigh*
Steve Schow wrote:
Furtheremore, with
keyboard macros
and plugins, I can work so fast that I can't imagine Sibelius
Steve Schow wrote:
let me just say that if you or someone like you wrote a book on how to become a
Finale power user
There already is a book, called Finale Power!, by Mark Johnson. It
includes information about plugins, although it is not up to date. The
problem with any computer book is th
Of course MakeMusic, which makes SmartMusic, has a couple of absolutely
stupid bugs in their SmartMusic 10 program for Mac, like the inability
to get it to sort a column. 3 some months later...still no fix. I
also asked them about when their promised "60 new titles a month" for
SmartMusic w
I've been riding the fence for a long time. I still can't decide. Its not a
cut and dried issue. This may sound silly, but I just can't get around
Sibelius' insistence on showing a full page layout with margins (even with the
new panarama view). Finale's scroll view is much better. Sounds li
> Furtheremore, with
> keyboard macros
> and plugins, I can work so fast that I can't imagine Sibelius (or any
> other program) being any faster.
Robert, as a new Finale user, let me just say that if you or someone like you
wrote a book on how to become a Finale power user this way, I think
> Dennis
> P.S. Where does one subscribe to the Sibelius mailing list?
> I'd like to
> lurk there a bit...
>
Check yahoogroups.com
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Christopher Smith wrote:
If it were consistent, I would have a way to deal with it.
And MM would have fixed it. Inconsistent bugs are essentially impossible
to fix until their consistencies have been discovered.
Unfortunately, not even a plugin could be designed to find and repair
the brok
On Jul 4, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
Now I've gone back through that score and found not a single error
in all
that flipping -- no changes elsewhere, either. I will be
extracting parts
and perhaps creating a transposed score (if the conductor prefers
that;
he's out o
At 10:34 AM 7/4/2007 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote:
>1) Use Simple Entry. Everyone at MM uses it instead of Speedy,
>apparently, because the tech guy couldn't even find the bug when he
>used Simple. I had to explain to him that it was a Speedy bug.
I've never used it, and I'm such a "Speedy"
On Jul 4, 2007, at 7:03 AM, dhbailey wrote:
dc wrote:
Johannes Gebauer écrit:
What I meant was, all in all does 2k8 have a similar number of
annoying bugs, or are at least a few fixed and none (well)
reintroduced?
The bug fixes are listed in the read-me quoted on the MM forum.
But that'
I have to say that Tom Carrathers did a very slick presentation.
Apparently, he showed just how close to Sibelius using Finale has come,
at least at the presentation level. I don't know Sib so can't say for
sure. I also don't use most of the Finale features he touts, being mired
in the old ways
On Jul 4, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 10:51 PM 7/3/2007 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote:
The Enharmonic Flip bug in Speedy Entry is DEFINITELY NOT fixed!
Hitting the 9 in Speedy still causes all kinds of problems down the
line.
I only recently read about this, and I can't
At 09:30 AM 7/4/2007, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>On 04.07.2007 dc wrote:
>> This is a major problem, because you can't trust what you see on the
>screen and have to print everything out to check.
>
>
>Well, I am having such bugs with Engraver slurs, and they are completely
>unpredictable. Sometimes
dc wrote:
[snip]> I've reported this several times to MM, and I know I'm not the
only one.
But now the guy at tech support doesn't seem to even be willing to
acknowledge the problem, and that's what irks me the most, because I've
spent quite a bit of time sending in files and reports.
Dennis
On 04.07.2007 dc wrote:
This is a major problem, because you can't trust what you see on the screen and
have to print everything out to check.
Well, I am having such bugs with Engraver slurs, and they are completely
unpredictable. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Even in the
same
dc wrote:
Johannes Gebauer écrit:
What I meant was, all in all does 2k8 have a similar number of
annoying bugs, or are at least a few fixed and none (well) reintroduced?
The bug fixes are listed in the read-me quoted on the MM forum.
But that's admittedly not a complete listing. I wonder i
Michael Cook wrote:
On 4 Jul 2007, at 08:07, dc wrote:
I just heard from MM:
There are no planned changes to hyphens in Finale 2008. They should
function just as they did in Finale 2007c.
MM left out a word. This should read:
There are no planned changes to hyphens in Finale 2008. They sho
dc wrote:
Robert Patterson écrit:
The whole point being to try to make a dent in Sibelius sales. I.e.,
new customers.
And what if they end up making a dent in their own sales? With more
users switching to Sibelius? I must confess that I'm very tempted to put
my 100 bucks towards a cross-grad
Robert Patterson wrote:
On 7/3/07, Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Complain to MakeMusic if they haven't fixed
your bugs. They sure haven't fixed many of mine!
My impression of this release is that MM didn't care at all about its
existing user base for it. I recently went to a de
On 04.07.2007 dc wrote:
Johannes Gebauer écrit:
I very much share this impression. Question is, bugwise, are we better of with
2k8 or worse?
The hyphen bug hasn't been addressed. I just heard from MM:
There are no planned changes to hyphens in Finale 2008. They should function
just as they
On 4 Jul 2007, at 08:07, dc wrote:
I just heard from MM:
There are no planned changes to hyphens in Finale 2008. They
should function just as they did in Finale 2007c.
MM left out a word. This should read:
There are no planned changes to hyphens in Finale 2008. They should
function INCOR
At 10:51 PM 7/3/2007 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote:
>The Enharmonic Flip bug in Speedy Entry is DEFINITELY NOT fixed!
>Hitting the 9 in Speedy still causes all kinds of problems down the
>line.
I only recently read about this, and I can't be more freaked, because I use
the 9 flip extensively
On 04.07.2007 Robert Patterson wrote:
My impression of this release is that MM didn't care at all about its
existing user base for it. I recently went to a demo that Tom
Carrathers did at a convention, and all the improvements in Fin08 seem
to be focused on helping his demo. The whole point being
At 10:51 PM 7/3/2007, Christopher Smith wrote:
>Score merger. I notice it is credited to Robert P. Is that OUR Robert
>Patterson?
No, it's Robert Piechaud, who also wrote Human Playback and FinaleScript.
Aaron.
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On 7/3/07, Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Complain to MakeMusic if they haven't fixed
your bugs. They sure haven't fixed many of mine!
My impression of this release is that MM didn't care at all about its
existing user base for it. I recently went to a demo that Tom
Carrathers di
At 10:51 PM 7/3/2007, Christopher Smith wrote:
>The documentation is now HTML, though it opens in Safari instead of
>my default browser Firefox,
This is true. The documentation will open in Safari on Mac and IE on
Windows, regardless of your default browser. I hope this will be
fixed later on.
First report, and as expected, I have very little to report of any
use to anyone. Sorry I am such a klutz when it comes to learning new
features, but I am REALLY slow!
The documentation is now HTML, though it opens in Safari instead of
my default browser Firefox, and the windows are preset
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