On 1 Nov 2007 at 14:11, John Howell wrote:
> >David W. Fenton wrote:
> >>
> >>Quote:
> >>
> >> Netscape 6.0 is finally going into its first public beta. There
> >> never was a version 5.0. The last major release, version 4.0, was
> >> released almost three years ago. Three years is
David W. Fenton wrote:
Quote:
Netscape 6.0 is finally going into its first public beta. There
never was a version 5.0. The last major release, version 4.0, was
released almost three years ago. Three years is an awfully long
time in the Internet world. During this time, Netsc
On 1 Nov 2007 at 13:47, John Howell wrote:
> At 7:59 AM +0100 11/1/07, Jari Williamsson wrote:
> >David W. Fenton wrote:
> >>Consider the case of Netscape, which chucked its entire codebase
> >>and started from scratch.
> >
> >Which is kind of my point. A rewrite, using mainly the same kind of
>
On 1 Nov 2007 at 4:44, dhbailey wrote:
> It's quite possible to be successful at it -- it costs money, certainly,
> but it's something auto makers do all the time. They keep on bringing
> out annual "upgrades" to existing models until a whole new model is
> finally ready to present to the publ
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From: Eric Dannewitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:30 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions
>>John Howell wrote:
>> Nor if you decide you want
At 7:59 AM +0100 11/1/07, Jari Williamsson wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
Consider the case of Netscape, which chucked its entire codebase
and started from scratch.
Which is kind of my point. A rewrite, using mainly the same kind of
thinking, using mainly the same kind of tools, will not solve
David W. Fenton wrote:
Consider the case of Netscape, which chucked its entire
codebase and started from scratch.
Which is kind of my point. A rewrite, using mainly the same kind of
thinking, using mainly the same kind of tools, will not solve anything.
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
John's right -- there are lots of shortcuts.
The best thing I can suggest to new Sibelius users is to learn to use
the escape key -- hit it whenever you're in doubt (yes, you can still
have things selected that you're not viewing onscreen at the moment),
and sometimes hitting it twice for insu
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 1 Nov 2007 at 2:22, Kurt Gnos wrote:
Fix its old bugs, but better reprogram it from scratch, using new
technologies
This is a really terrible suggestion. If you think the bugs in Finale
are bad now, wait 'til you see the new programmed-from-scratch
Finale. Consider
It sounds like your cursor was resting on some musical element when you
right clicked. You got the menu that opens when you are pointing to a
specific element. It's much shorter.
To get the longer list of options, you have to point to a blank space on
the page. Then there is a context menu wit
On 1 Nov 2007 at 2:22, Kurt Gnos wrote:
> Fix its old bugs, but better reprogram it from scratch, using new
> technologies
This is a really terrible suggestion. If you think the bugs in Finale
are bad now, wait 'til you see the new programmed-from-scratch
Finale. Consider the case of Netscape,
At 4:11 PM -0700 10/31/07, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Right clicking does not bring up any context menu that has OTHER in
it. I get Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete, Capture Idea, Voice, Hide/Show,
Color and Apply Color...
It's just something you have to learn. What happened is that you had
something sel
Right clicking does not bring up any context menu that has OTHER in it.
I get Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete, Capture Idea, Voice, Hide/Show, Color
and Apply Color...
However, in the menu, there is Other buried under Create..
Sibelius 5.1...frustrating..
Richard Smith wrote:
Eric this
tch, using new
technologies, so finally (!) I agree with you, Jari, we need a new
program...
Kurt
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im
> Auftrag von Jari Williamsson
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2007 19:45
> An: fin
Eric this may be what you want.
1. Right click on a blank part of the page for the context menu. At
the bottom of the menu is "other". Open that up.
2. Select "change instrument"
3. Pick an instrument from the list.
4. Click the now blue (="loaded") arrow where you want to change the
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
John Howell wrote:
Nor if you decide you want to change an instrument on a score.
I assume that you mean same staff, change to a different instrument,
perhaps change clef or transposition, rather than the scenario David
explained. I know it can be done, but not how be
John Howell wrote:
Nor if you decide you want to change an instrument on a score.
I assume that you mean same staff, change to a different instrument,
perhaps change clef or transposition, rather than the scenario David
explained. I know it can be done, but not how because I haven't had
to
John Howell wrote:
All notation is complex.
In this case, I think the complete opposite way. The problem as I see it
is that all music software of today are using technology from 30-40
years ago. If a music program was developed today, using the technology
invented during the last 5-10 year
At 10:30 PM -0800 10/30/07, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
I, so far, find Sibelius extremely backwards. Like putting
articulations on notes after I enter them. Still can't figure that
out.
I'll second everything David Bailey said, but add this. Sibelius
gives you choices, and one of those choices is
You can select the articulation from the keypad at the same time as the
rhythm. But I find that awkward unless you just need a few isolated
articulations. For me, articulation is most seamlessly applied to entire
regions (select any number of measures) rather than note by note. I also
stop ente
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
I, so far, find Sibelius extremely backwards. Like putting articulations
on notes after I enter them. Still can't figure that out. Nor if you
decide you want to change an instrument on a score.
So far, I've tried to do two trios with Sibelius, but ended up going
back to
I, so far, find Sibelius extremely backwards. Like putting articulations
on notes after I enter them. Still can't figure that out. Nor if you
decide you want to change an instrument on a score.
So far, I've tried to do two trios with Sibelius, but ended up going
back to Finale cause it was jus
At 10:25 PM +0100 10/30/07, Kurt Gnos wrote:
David, John,
thanks for the quick and competent answers.
Well, apart from the crashes, I get a quite good impression. And I am glad
you two are here to answer all my future Sibelius questions. I must say,
generally the user interface it quite nice an
David, John,
thanks for the quick and competent answers.
Well, apart from the crashes, I get a quite good impression. And I am glad
you two are here to answer all my future Sibelius questions. I must say,
generally the user interface it quite nice and much more modern than Finale,
and the output
At 11:44 PM +0100 10/29/07, Kurt Gnos wrote:
Is there a way to select an entire staff except highlighting the first
measure, go to the last page and shift-clicking the last measure? I guess
there is... But there is no clicking to the left of the staff as in Finale,
so I didn't find out...;-)
Y
Kurt Gnos wrote:
I tried that and it didn't work. I guess this is only for future entries - I
also did not find any "apply" button or something like this...
Just make sure you exit that dialog properly after editing any of the
text styles -- be sure to click any/all OK buttons and don't get o
Kurt Gnos wrote:
David,
thanks, that did it.
Is there a way to select an entire staff except highlighting the first
measure, go to the last page and shift-clicking the last measure? I guess
there is... But there is no clicking to the left of the staff as in Finale,
so I didn't find out...;-)
I tried that and it didn't work. I guess this is only for future entries - I
also did not find any "apply" button or something like this...
Kurt
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im
> Auftrag von Jeff Tanner
> Gesendet: Montag, 29. Oktober 2007
David,
thanks, that did it.
Is there a way to select an entire staff except highlighting the first
measure, go to the last page and shift-clicking the last measure? I guess
there is... But there is no clicking to the left of the staff as in Finale,
so I didn't find out...;-)
Kurt
> -Ursprün
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