Re: [Finale] OT: Violin pizz range

2011-05-14 Thread John Howell
At 7:11 AM -0500 5/14/11, Robert Patterson wrote: Context being key was why I was looking for examples in rep. BTW I found that very B in La Valse in the bar before reh. number 66. (But it also looks like an arco indication may be missing 4 before 66.) I had a friend of mine do it for me yesterd

Re: [Finale] OT: Violin pizz range

2011-05-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Context being key was why I was looking for examples in rep. BTW I found that very B in La Valse in the bar before reh. number 66. (But it also looks like an arco indication may be missing 4 before 66.) I had a friend of mine do it for me yesterday. It didn't seem to be a problem. Obviously it's a

Re: [Finale] OT: Violin pizz range

2011-05-14 Thread John Howell
At 10:30 AM -0500 5/13/11, Robert Patterson wrote: I'm curious to know if the collected wisdom of this list knows of examples in orchestral rep. of violin pizz. notes of b''' (5 leger line-b) or higher. Obviously, the closer to standard rep., the more likely I am to have the score and/or recordin

RE: [Finale] OT: Violin pizz range

2011-05-14 Thread Lee Actor
Pizz on that B harmonic is nearly inaudible even to the violinist, so I would definitely file that idea under "impractical". You can write the normal pizz on the high B, and assuming you have an entire violin section playing forte, you will get something. It's hard to say how effective it will be

Re: [Finale] OT: Violin pizz range

2011-05-13 Thread John Howell
At 10:17 PM -0500 5/13/11, Robert Patterson wrote: What about as a harmonic pizz? (That b is a natural harmonic of the e string.) Interesting question, but I'd have to try it to see. My first reaction is that it would be VERY difficult to play, because the plucking finger would tend to dampe

Re: [Finale] OT: Violin pizz range

2011-05-13 Thread Robert Patterson
What about as a harmonic pizz? (That b is a natural harmonic of the e string.) On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Lee Actor wrote: > I'll also add that violinists (of which I am one) generally dislike playing > pizz high up on the E string. Not only doesn't it sound good (zero > resonance, and ha

RE: [Finale] OT: Violin pizz range

2011-05-13 Thread Lee Actor
I'll also add that violinists (of which I am one) generally dislike playing pizz high up on the E string. Not only doesn't it sound good (zero resonance, and hard to even tell what the pitch is), but it's physically somewhat uncomfortable as well. Plucking a very taut, thin metal string hurts! -

Re: [Finale] OT: Violin pizz range

2011-05-13 Thread Robert Patterson
Yeah, I found a (single) example in Bartok Music for String Perc Celeste of a C above that, but it is also doubled an octave lower (in the context of a full string section pizz chord). I would love to find others. R On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Lee Actor wrote: > Ravel's Tzigane has 2 high

RE: [Finale] OT: Violin pizz range

2011-05-13 Thread Lee Actor
Ravel's Tzigane has 2 high A pizzes in the 1st violin part around rehearsal 5. They're both doubled an octave lower; I doubt you could even hear the pitch otherwise. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com > I'm curious to know if