[Fink-devel] feature?

2002-03-24 Thread Michael Baudis
this is no feature request, only an idea. could it not be nice, to have some interactive feedback when trying to run commands (that is, programs) provided through fink, but currently not installed? which could be provided by shell (or perl) placeholders instead of the real binaries. assumptio

Re: [Fink-devel] feature?

2002-03-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 09:44 AM, Michael Baudis wrote: > could it not be nice, to have some interactive feedback when trying to > run commands (that is, programs) provided through fink, but currently > not installed? which could be provided by shell (or perl) placeholders > instead of

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-24 Thread Josh Kuperman
This is very interesting to me. It certainly points out how the GPL licensing in the OpenSource community offers that community a great advantage. Did they ask for the tools back? From my reading of your correspondence, it seems that you and everyone under 18 aren't entitled to download the develo

[Fink-devel] Dealing w/frequent version changes [rsync]

2002-03-24 Thread Bill Bumgarner
Rsync's version has been bumped frequently over the last few months; from 2.5.0 to 2.5.4 happened in just a few+ months w/a revision released every few weeks. While the current release is available via: http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/ While old versions are always moved into:

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 06:18 PM, Josh Kuperman wrote: > This is very interesting to me. It certainly points out how the GPL > licensing in the OpenSource community offers that community a great > advantage. Did they ask for the tools back? No. > From my reading of your > correspondence,

[Fink-devel] When will we be at 1.0 ?

2002-03-24 Thread Max Horn
I think we might want to define a plan as to when we will consider Fink to be 1.0. Some ideas of my own: * package caching. It's just not acceptable that one has to wait 10-60 seconds before the actual command is processed. * full shlibs support (that includes automatic dependency detection).

Re: [Fink-devel] When will we be at 1.0 ?

2002-03-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 06:58 PM, Max Horn wrote: > I think we might want to define a plan as to when we will consider Fink > to be 1.0. Some ideas of my own: > > * package caching. It's just not acceptable that one has to wait 10-60 > seconds before the actual command is processed. Hmm

Re: [Fink-devel] When will we be at 1.0 ?

2002-03-24 Thread Max Horn
At 19:09 Uhr + 24.03.2002, Finlay Dobbie wrote: >On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 06:58 PM, Max Horn wrote: > >>I think we might want to define a plan as to when we will consider >>Fink to be 1.0. Some ideas of my own: >> >>* package caching. It's just not acceptable that one has to wait >>10-6

Re: [Fink-devel] Dealing w/frequent version changes [rsync]

2002-03-24 Thread David R. Morrison
Bill Bumgarner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rsync's version has been bumped frequently over the last few months; from > 2.5.0 to 2.5.4 happened in just a few+ months w/a revision released every > few weeks. > > While the current release is available via: > > http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/r

Re: [Fink-devel] When will we be at 1.0 ?

2002-03-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 07:25 PM, Max Horn wrote: > Sorry, I misexpressed myself. I was actually refering to the package > manager, not the distribution. What you say of course are requirments > for a 1.0 distro, but IMHO we are much farther away from that than from > a 1.0 PM. Oh righ

Re: [Fink-devel] When will we be at 1.0 ?

2002-03-24 Thread David R. Morrison
Max Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we might want to define a plan as to when we will consider > Fink to be 1.0. Some ideas of my own: > > > * package caching. It's just not acceptable that one has to wait > 10-60 seconds before the actual command is processed. > > * full shlibs su

Re: [Fink-devel] Dealing w/frequent version changes [rsync]

2002-03-24 Thread Bill Bumgarner
OK-- that almost works. Two problems (maybe): (1) Fink seems to select between the mirrors at random [makes sense], but I really want it to go in order so that it will generally succeed except in those [hopefully rare] situations where the fink package description has fallen behind the rsync

Re: [Fink-devel] Dealing w/frequent version changes [rsync]

2002-03-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "David" == David R Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> CustomMirror is an excellent way to do this. You should list both the David> current and future directories, like this: David> CustomMirror: << David>A: http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync David>B: http://samba.anu.edu

[Fink-devel] headless java applications?

2002-03-24 Thread Benjamin Reed
I'm working on finishing up my cocoon packages, and I'm running into an issue I just can't get around. Cocoon uses some awt stuff for some of it's XSL-FO conversions and such. Unfortunately, this means that it freaks out if it tries to run as anything other than the logged-in user or root (who b

Re: [Fink-devel] qt-3.0.1-2 build failure (fwd)

2002-03-24 Thread Martin Costabel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 02:28:20 -0800 > Subject: qt build failure > Kaben, > here's the message. It fails near the end at "c++ -o (insert huge > object list here)" > -Evan > > test -d ../../../bin/designer.app/Contents/MacOS/

[Fink-devel] HEAD ? head !

2002-03-24 Thread Jan de Leeuw
There is a recent fink package which installs scripts GET, POST, and HEAD in /sw/bin. I am not sure which one it is, but it certainly is not a good idea, since now on HFS+ systems the "head" command points to /sw/bin/HEAD. This breaks, for instance, the python update. === Jan de Leeuw; Professor a

Re: [Fink-devel] qt-3.0.1-2 build failure (fwd)

2002-03-24 Thread Justin Hallett
3.0.1-2 was my first version with a patch to fix a dylib creation error. You'll need to force remove it and then install the new one...the next upgrade should hopefully work seamless. Sorry about this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I am getting the exact same error now, and this for "fink install

Re: [Fink-devel] HEAD ? head !

2002-03-24 Thread Justin Hallett
it was libwww-pm please sudo remove HEAD, GET, POST. libwww-2 has fixed this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >There is a recent fink package which installs scripts GET, POST, and >HEAD in /sw/bin. I am not sure which one it is, but it certainly >is not a good idea, since now on HFS+ systems the "head

[Fink-devel] strict-dep checker script

2002-03-24 Thread Max Horn
For the stable bindist, I plan to write a special batch mode strict dependency checker, and I'd love to hear your comments on this idea, and possibly suggestions on how to improve upon it. How it works: it first removes all non-essential packages from the system; then it "fink install"s the p

[Fink-devel] Anyone working on PyOpenGL?

2002-03-24 Thread Bill Bumgarner
Anyone? ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel

Re: [Fink-devel] porting minicom...almost done....i hope

2002-03-24 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, I found that it is linking with -lcurses, and using the system version: /usr/lib/libcurses.dylib, which does not define _getopt_long. Does anything I can link to contain getopt_long? Or do i need to depend on gengetopt long, patch the Makefi

Re: [Fink-devel] strict-dep checker script

2002-03-24 Thread Benjamin Reed
Max Horn [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Fink packages normally. QT requires it (to confirm the license; is > this really necessary?). And Atlas requires it too (makes sense in > this case, though). It is technically possible to put an "echo yes |" before the configure in qt; the previous maintain

Re: [Fink-devel] porting minicom...almost done....i hope

2002-03-24 Thread Justin Hallett
you'll prolly need to keep ncurses, but you'll have to add getopt_long, either by adding it the way i mentioned before or by patching the getopt file currently in it...I'll look at righ tnow and send you it...send me the info and patch you have righ tnow. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >-BEGIN PGP

[Fink-devel] diff/patch formats

2002-03-24 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there a 'proper' way to make a diff for fink? I mean the options used: -cr, -ur, whatever. I was wondering if it mattered or it was as long as patch can understand it. - -chris zubrzycki - - -- PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/beren/publ

Re: [Fink-devel] diff/patch formats

2002-03-24 Thread David R. Morrison
Please use diff -ur. Virtually all of fink's patchfiles use that format. -- Dave ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel

Re: [Fink-devel] diff/patch formats

2002-03-24 Thread Justin Hallett
I use diff -ruN but it's up to the user i think. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Is there a 'proper' way to make a diff for fink? I mean the options >used: -cr, -ur, whatever. I was wondering if it mattered or it was as >long as patch can understand it. ¸.·´^`·.,][JFH][`·.,¸¸.·´][JFH][¸.·´^`·., J

Re: [Fink-devel] headless java applications?

2002-03-24 Thread Benjamin Reed
Benjamin Reed [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > I've tried using PJA (the "Pure Java AWT" implementation) to trick it, > but it doesn't seem to help. Does anyone have any ideas on this? > Cocoon works great, as root, but there's no way I'm gonna leave tomcat > as a root user... OK, after more digging

Re: [Fink-devel] strict-dep checker script

2002-03-24 Thread Kaben
Re: interactive packages such as Qt: free/netbsd ports/pkgsrc have a mechanism for handling this. `interactive' patches have variable `IS_INTERACTIVE' set true; build mode can be unset in which case everything is built, `BATCH' in which case interactive packages are skipped, or `INTERACTIVE'

Re: [Fink-devel] strict-dep checker script

2002-03-24 Thread Peter O'Gorman
I have one suggestion for this. When you have built everything with nothing installed, you should build again with everything installed. Building twice like this will find both missing Depends and Conflicts... I think it is a great idea. Peter On Monday, March 25, 2002, at 10:20 AM, Max Hor

Re: [Fink-devel] strict-dep checker script/mozilla

2002-03-24 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mozilla 0.99-had/has a hidden depends, i'm pretty sure. I am not sure what, because when I tried to build it with a basic X setup it would not compile. After everything else I wanted was installed tho, it compiled fine (but slooowly). I am sorry, b

Re: [Fink-devel] When will we be at 1.0 ?

2002-03-24 Thread Jeremy Higgs
On 25/3/02 5:58 AM, "Max Horn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we might want to define a plan as to when we will consider > Fink to be 1.0. Some ideas of my own: > > > * package caching. It's just not acceptable that one has to wait > 10-60 seconds before the actual command is processed. >