[Fink-devel] moving fetchmail to stable

2002-05-31 Thread Eric Knauel
Hi, I maintain the packages fetchmail and fetchmail-ssl, which have been in 'unstable' for quiet some time now. I'm not sure what the exact policy on 'when to move xy to stable' is, but I received many positive comments on fetchmail. It works very fine on my OS X boxes too. So, if it's appropria

Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Max Horn
At 22:12 Uhr -0700 30.05.2002, Torrey T. Lyons wrote: >I noticed at SourceForge that Fink has announced the availability of >KDE for Mac OS X. First I should congratulate all the hard working >KDE-Darwin and Fink developers! > >My concern is that I noticed that Fink has started to distribute >l

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Benjamin Reed
Max Horn [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > I am fully with you on this. I stated similar concerns about this in > the past but was overruled. In any case now it's not to late to undo > this, if we can agree on it, even with relatively little pain. > > However, first we need to evaluate in how far sh

Re: [Fink-devel] moving fetchmail to stable

2002-05-31 Thread Max Horn
At 9:55 Uhr +0200 31.05.2002, Eric Knauel wrote: >Hi, > >I maintain the packages fetchmail and fetchmail-ssl, which have been >in 'unstable' for quiet some time now. I'm not sure what the exact >policy on 'when to move xy to stable' is, but I received many positive >comments on fetchmail. It works

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Justin Hallett
Xinerama and Xv, in the shared lib format are *NOT* needed. They are only used if present. Since Xinerama and Xv are built statics in the Xfree build by default, and we turned them on, since I needed them for an other port, and Ben build the KDE binaries from fink and the fink verion of Xfree, t

[Fink-devel] 0.0.0 libs

2002-05-31 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
these are the libs affected so far: /sw/lib/libIDL-0.6.0.dylib (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0) /sw/lib/libIIOP.0.dylib (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0) /sw/lib/libORBit.0.dylib (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Max Horn
At 8:38 Uhr -0600 31.05.2002, Justin Hallett wrote: >Xinerama and Xv, in the shared lib format are *NOT* needed. They are only >used if present. Since Xinerama and Xv are built statics in the Xfree >build by default, and we turned them on, since I needed them for an other >port, and Ben build th

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Justin Hallett
no there isn't. Plus why would you want to revert the change? It doesn't hurt anything unless you try and mix to systems. hmmm...I think this might end up being a problem with other pkgs for the bin dist as well. shared libs and system pkgs are not gonna mix well in the bin dist. [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Torrey Lyons
At 11:43 AM -0600 5/31/02, Justin Hallett wrote: >no there isn't. Plus why would you want to revert the change? It doesn't >hurt anything unless you try and mix to systems. hmmm...I think this >might end up being a problem with other pkgs for the bin dist as well. >shared libs and system pkgs a

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Justin Hallett
This is true, how ever the system-xfree86 pkg is flawed in other ways as well. Since some pkgs may depend on a certain version of xfree, and since there is no way of knowing which is install with system-xfree86. The make a pkg management system as fink all pkgs almost need to be controlled by fi

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Justin Hallett
Firstly i asked about the shared libs to the Xfree team, and there was no good reason for them being disabled, according to my replies from the list. Secondly this would be a concern if we were making .pkg OS X style installed that aren't managed. (i.e. kinda like rpm thought I'll give rpms quaz

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Justin Hallett
of course i can't remember which pkg it was now, though it might be mplayer, and it's cause Xinerama and Xv statics are flawed on darwin that this happens mostly, and there are instructions on how to get xfree to make the shared versions in the install notes (accutally I think it was xine now that

[Fink-devel] - verry thanks ! -

2002-05-31 Thread gerd müller
hey developer, i red your news about the kde on mac os x. i'am a german mechanical engineering student from berlin and pls believe me...a lot of users which never want touch windows anymore, which toke a look on linux with a smile due too the missing graphic and video apps...they wated for thi

Re: [Fink-devel] - verry thanks ! -

2002-05-31 Thread Justin Hallett
yes and no. precompiled version may or may not work, and compiling these programs for source if available might need some patches. Since IIRC most of these are commercial programs and will never be in fink and are probably distributed via binaries only form. You can try them but since they are

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread David R. Morrison
Here's my opinion about this: 1) We are offering users the option of system-xfree86 or system-xtools. So it only makes sense that we need to make sure that the Fink package works exactly like the system-xfree86 package. 2) There are only a few other system-foo packages, and in each case we need

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Justin Hallett
this is a correct statement and I agree 100% with it, my argument is supporting the system pkgs. The problem is this statement will limit the software we are able to port, like xine which IHMO is major port, or in demd software. And we would not be able to provide it. I think that to satisfy bo

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread David R. Morrison
Just to followup one more time: Torrey, we've had a bit more discussion among fink developers on IRC, and it turns out that the problem which Justin is having with xine is related to the lack of x-shm support on Darwin. Somehow with the shared libs he can get around this (I wasn't too clear about

Re: [Fink-devel] packages compiled under gcc 3

2002-05-31 Thread mathias meyer
just a short (and little late on top, i know) answer: what fails to compile is actually not python but readline > ### mv failed, exit code 1 > Failed: installing readline-shlibs-4.2a-5 failed > [localhost:~] hester% " i'm sorry if my mail confused you. all i said was that python itself would c

Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Fink library problem

2002-05-31 Thread Torrey Lyons
At 4:17 PM -0400 5/31/02, David R. Morrison wrote: >Just to followup one more time: Torrey, we've had a bit more discussion >among fink developers on IRC, and it turns out that the problem which >Justin is having with xine is related to the lack of x-shm support on >Darwin. Somehow with the share

[Fink-devel] autoconf-2.52 and dx

2002-05-31 Thread Jeremy Erwin
I'm slowly making progress on dx-2.4.0-- sorry to get everyone's hopes up be prematurely submitting a compiled package... I installed autoconf-2.5, and automake 1.5 to test for compatibility-- most bug reports concerned this. The quick fix seems to be SetCPP: cc -E -traditional-cpp although th

[Fink-devel] gtkhtml-1.0.2-1 failed

2002-05-31 Thread Ben Hines
cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DGNOMEDATADIR=\""/sw/share"\" -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/sw/share/locale"\" -I../../src -I. -I. -I/sw/include/gnome-1.0 -DN

Re: [Fink-devel] autoconf-2.52 and dx

2002-05-31 Thread Ben Hines
At 7:58 PM -0400 5/31/02, Jeremy Erwin wrote: > >Is there a way to get fink to properly expand $(CC) ? i.e >SetCPP: $(CC) -E -traditional-cpp >does not seem to work; it's flagged as "not sane" by configure-- the >shell variable does not correctly expand. CC is really just supposed to be the nam

Re: [Fink-devel] autoconf-2.52 and dx

2002-05-31 Thread Jeremy Erwin
On Friday, May 31, 2002, at 10:15 PM, Ben Hines wrote: > At 7:58 PM -0400 5/31/02, Jeremy Erwin wrote: >> >> Is there a way to get fink to properly expand $(CC) ? i.e >> SetCPP: $(CC) -E -traditional-cpp >> does not seem to work; it's flagged as "not sane" by configure-- the >> shell variable