Re: [Fis] If always n>0 why we need log

2018-06-03 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
ction.outlook.com/?url= > http%3A%2F%2Flistas.unizar.es%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman% > 2Flistinfo%2Ffis&data=01%7C01%7Choelzer%40unr.edu% > 7C82bf20333c6c4fd9707c08d5c97971b4%7C523b4bfc0ebd4c03b2b96f6a17fd > 31d8%7C1&sdata=jOf1JAeFzo8p1ymXpGvzLgJ25ZBeFI6sVksQvbpQYhU%3D&reserved=0 > > > > __

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
uld we understand this paradox? > > > > Best wishes, > > Xueshan > > ___ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > -- Professor Terrence W. Deacon University of California, Berkeley ___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-12 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
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Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-07 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
the n alphabets, i.e., the one with n = 1. >> When n = 3, for example, we have the so-called 3rd-order genetic alphabet >> with 4^3 = 64 letters each consisting of 3 nucleotides, resulting in the >> familiar codon table. Thus, the 64 genetic codons are not words as widely >> thought (including myself until recently) but letter

[Fis] Biosemiotics

2018-02-04 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
essor Terrence W. Deacon University of California, Berkeley ___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] I salute to Sungchul

2018-01-13 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
ss my pleasure with the current state of our >> discourse – an evident attempt to reach a more common understanding about >> information issues and to enrich preliminary given assessments. >> >> In this regard, I would like to add my comment to Sungchul’s

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-17 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
stable, even if just in precise qualitative terms, is pretty close to being a core defining attribute. On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Terrence W. DEACON wrote: > On communication: > > "Communication" needs to be more carefully distinguished from mere > transfer of

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-17 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
On communication: "Communication" needs to be more carefully distinguished from mere transfer of physical differences from location to location and time to time. Indeed, any physical transfer of physical differences in this respect can be utilized to communicate, and all communication requires thi

Re: [Fis] Adding dimensions

2017-10-26 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
> > Fis mailing list > > Fis@listas.unizar.es > > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > > > > > ___ > > Fis mailing list > > Fis@listas.unizar.es > > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > > > > > -- > Dr. Mark William Johnson > Institute of Learning and Teaching > Faculty of Health and Life Sciences > University of Liverpool > > Phone: 07786 064505 > Email: johnsonm...@gmail.com > Blog: http://dailyimprovisation.blogspot.com > ___ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > -- Professor Terrence W. Deacon University of California, Berkeley ___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] The two very important operations of Infos

2017-10-25 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
the paradox would > be solved: > > \ > / > - > //X// > > > Friendly greetings > Krassimir > > > ___________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > -- Professor T

Re: [Fis] What is “Agent”?

2017-10-19 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
> Alvaro Moreno and Matteo Mossio: Biological Autonomy: A Philosophical > > and Theoretical Enquiry (History, Philosophy and Theory of the Life > Sciences 12); > > Springer, Dordrecht, 2015, xxxiv + 221 pp., $129 hbk, ISBN > 978-94-017-9836-5 > > > STAN > > On Thu, O

Re: [Fis] What is “Agent”?

2017-10-19 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
be > non-reducible and fundamental to our universe. > > > > Alex > > > > > > ___ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > -- Professor Terrence W. Deacon University of California, Berkeley ___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] Data - Reflection - Information

2017-10-08 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Against "meaning" I think that there is a danger of allowing our anthropocentrism to bias the discussion. I worry that the term 'meaning' carries too much of a linguistic bias. By this I mean that it is too attractive to use language as our archtypical model when we talk about information. Languag

Re: [Fis] Fw: PRINCIPLES OF IS. The Pre-Science of Information

2017-10-05 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
mation Group > Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud > Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA) > Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta 0 > 50009 Zaragoza, Spain > Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 <+34%20976%2071%2035%2026> (& > 6818)pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.eshttp://sites.goo

Re: [Fis] INFORMATION: JUST A MATTER OF MATH

2017-09-18 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
ragón (CIBA) > Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta 0 > 50009 Zaragoza, Spain > Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 <+34%20976%2071%2035%2026> (& > 6818)pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.eshttp://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/ > - > > > >

Re: [Fis] Causation is transfer of information

2017-03-30 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
ng f followed by g ledes to the same result as h. > > > > I started using the so-called ITR template, *Figure 1*, about 5 years > ago, and the main reason I am bringing it up here is to ask your critical > opinion on my suggestion published in 2012 (Molecular Theory of the Living > Cell: Concepts, Molecular Mechanisms, and

Re: [Fis] Causation is transfer of information

2017-03-28 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Corrected typos (in case the intrinsic redundancy didn't compensate for these minor corruptions of the text): information-beqaring medium = information-bearing medium appliction = application conceptiont = conception On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Terrence W. DEACON wrote: >

Re: [Fis] Causation is transfer of information

2017-03-28 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
gt; > John Collier > > Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate > > Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal > > http://web.ncf.ca/collier > > > > _______ > Fis mailing list

Re: [Fis] Game over! A Curious Story

2017-01-10 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
t; is it that it does not matter downstairs that the first floor is ablaze?” I >> am genuinely curious to learn why attempting planetocide is fun. Are you >> not? >> >> For J.O.R. >> --- >> >> >> >> >> ___

Re: [Fis] A Curious Story

2017-01-10 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
gt; alleviate but a single person’s fears – mine. You, my dear reader, are thus > my last hope that you might be able to explain the punch line to me: “Why > is it that it does not matter downstairs that the first floor is ablaze?” I > am genuinely curious to learn why attempting planetocide is

Re: [Fis] What is information? and What is life?

2017-01-10 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
is necessary for the field to develop maturity. I > thought I should add my bit, and with everyone a Happy New Year, with all > its possibilities. > > > > Warmest regards to everyone, > > John > > > > *From:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es]

Re: [Fis] What is information? and What is life?

2016-12-30 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
e arrivando dove si può arrivare per generalizzare il sapere: > piuttosto che toglierlo un mattone è meglio metterlo, non per costruire > muri di separazione o contrapposizioni, ma ponti di comunicazione. Saranno > quelli che vengono dopo a portare altri mattoni. > Francesco > > 2

Re: [Fis] What is information? and What is life?

2016-12-29 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
as.unizar.es >> http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> 4 Austin Dr. Prior Park St. James, Barbados BB23004 >> Tel: 246-421-8855 <%28246%29%20421-8855> >> Cell: 246-243-5938 <%28246%29%20243-5938> >> >> >> ___ >> Fis mailing >> listFis@listas.unizar.eshttp://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis >> >> -- >> - >> >> Professor David (Dai) Griffiths >> Professor of Education >> School of Education and Psychology >> The University of Bolton >> Deane Road >> Bolton, BL3 5AB >> >> Office: T3 02http://www.bolton.ac.uk/IEC >> >> SKYPE: daigriffiths >> UK Mobile +44 (0)7491151559 <+44%207491%20151559> >> Spanish Mobile: + 34 687955912 <+34%20687%2095%2059%2012> >> Work: + 44 (0)7826917705 <+44%207826%20917705> >> (Please don't leave voicemail) >> email: >>d.e.griffi...@bolton.ac.uk >>dai.griffith...@gmail.com >> >> ___ Fis mailing list >> Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > ___ > Fis mailing > listFis@listas.unizar.eshttp://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > -- > - > > Professor David (Dai) Griffiths > Professor of Education > School of Education and Psychology > The University of Bolton > Deane Road > Bolton, BL3 5AB > > Office: T3 02http://www.bolton.ac.uk/IEC > > SKYPE: daigriffiths > UK Mobile +44 (0)7491151559 <+44%207491%20151559> > Spanish Mobile: + 34 687955912 <+34%20687%2095%2059%2012> > Work: + 44 (0)7826917705 <+44%207826%20917705> > (Please don't leave voicemail) > email: >d.e.griffi...@bolton.ac.uk >dai.griffith...@gmail.com > > > ___ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > -- Professor Terrence W. Deacon University of California, Berkeley ___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] What is information? and What is life?

2016-12-24 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
arch (ASCoR) >> >> l...@leydesdorff.net ; http://www.leydesdorff.net/ >> Associate Faculty, SPRU, <http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/>University of >> Sussex; >> >> Guest Professor Zhejiang Univ. <http://www.zju.edu.cn/english/>, >> Hangzhou; Visiting Professor, IS

Re: [Fis] What is information? and What is life?

2016-12-22 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
gt; >> >> This act of forming forming an information process results in the >> construction of an observer that is the owner [holder] of information. >> >> >> >> The system of reference is then no longer the message, but the observer >>

[Fis] _ Re: re Gödel discussion

2016-05-02 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
> formal system that distinguishes between the two possible readings of the > Gödel sentence (an operation that would considerably complicate the > system), such would no longer be the case. > > > Cheers, > Maxine > __

Re: [Fis] Fw: Toyabe 2010 [ Information converted to energy ] / Van denBroeck 2010 Thermodynamics of Information: REQUEST TOTERRENCE DEACON

2016-01-17 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
ices get ever more miniature the energy content of the information used > to control them – *kT* at room temperature being equivalent to about > 4 × 10–21 J – will approach that required to operate them. "Nobody thinks > of using bits to boil water," he says, "but that wou

Re: [Fis] Information is a linguistic description of structures

2015-09-29 Thread Terrence W. Deacon
llion years. We can imagine how successful artificial genetic > engineering will be to manage genetic parasites… > > Am 28.09.2015 um 07:13 schrieb Terrence W. Deacon: > > As exemplified in Guenther's auxin example, and Pedro's worries about the > procrustean use

Re: [Fis] Information and Locality Introduction

2015-09-12 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
>> >> >> ___ >> >> Fis mailing list >> >> Fis@listas.unizar.es >> >> http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> --

Re: [Fis] Fw: It-from-Bit and information interpretation of QM

2015-06-29 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
> information? In the exchange below, there is thus a faint perfume of > reductionism that floats around the focus on properties of informational > entities without reference to the necessary energetic processes of their > production, transmission and reception. But your post was less than fo

Re: [Fis] It-from-Bit and information interpretation of QM

2015-06-26 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
"information" is not resolved (for the group?) it seems hard (to > me) to have truly meaningful exchanges . . . without having to put a > "meaningful" or "meaningless" qualifier in front of "information" every

Re: [Fis] New Year Lecture: Aftermath

2015-04-24 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
rpretation are effectively the same > thing? > > Cheers, > > Guy > > Guy Hoelzer, Associate Professor > Department of Biology > University of Nevada Reno > > Phone: 775-784-4860 > Fax: 775-784-1302 > hoel...@unr.edu > > On Apr 24, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Terrence W.

Re: [Fis] New Year Lecture: Aftermath

2015-04-24 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
agonés de Ciencias de la Salud > Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA) > Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta X > 50009 Zaragoza, Spain > Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 (& > 6818)pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.eshttp://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/ > --------

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-02-02 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
certainly >>>>>>> have. It is inevitable that with such a slippery concept as >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> there will be different destinations depending on the travellers but >>>>>>&g

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-02-01 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
> is not itself dynamic and nor does it have an existential status that would > allow me to say that it has "level specific properties." This, again, > suggests dualism (sorry). > > Regards, > Steven > > PS. Let's just say that I posted this to FIS on Monday, an

Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-31 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
; Best wishes to all---Pedro > > ----- > Pedro C. Marijuán > Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group > Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud > Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA) > Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta X > 50009 Zaragoza, Spain > Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 (& 6818) > pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es <mailto:pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es> > http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/ > - > > ___ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es <mailto:Fis@listas.unizar.es> > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > > > -- Professor Terrence W. Deacon University of California, Berkeley ___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-31 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
ll >>>>>> be appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Personally, my late comment will deal with the last exchange between >>>>>> Bob >>>>>> and Terry, It is about the point which follows: "...there was no >>>>>> thesis >>>>>> other than the word information is a descriptor for s

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
point between the two. IOW, a clear reference is > always associated with a response. > > Regards, > Steven > > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Terrence W. DEACON > wrote: > >> Hi Steven, >> >> My apologies for wordiness. We all have our

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
enough, am sympathetic to Terry's denial of dualism, but I > wonder if Terry merely advocates an identity theory. As I have noted often > such a theory is, in fact, a dualism. > > Regards, > Steven > > -- >Dr. Steven Ericsson-Zenith >Institute for Advanced Science

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
;>> The roadmap Bob suggests is an obligatory exploration to advance; we may >>>> disagree in the ways and means, but not in the overall goal. It is a >>>> mind >>>> boggling exercise as we have to confront q

Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
e Lecture. It was a nice intellectual exercise. >> >> Best wishes to all---Pedro >> >> - >> Pedro C. Marijuán >> Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group >> Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud >> Ce

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 22

2015-01-21 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
re generally, an Information process, is > object-creation. It from bit. > > Thermodynamics is only a part of an Information process (Lerner 2014) [ > http://arxiv.org/abs/1401.7041 ]. > > Malcolm Dean > > > > > > > > ___ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.uni

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

2015-01-19 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
... in 3-space perhaps a tetrahedron instead of a 4-leaf clover, such that each of the 4 academic domains were more equidistant from one another. On 1/19/15, Terrence W. DEACON wrote: > Hi Pedro, > > Thanks for sharing this beautiful and instructive image. I wonder if > it should

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

2015-01-19 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
(CIBA) > Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta X > 50009 Zaragoza, Spain > Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 (& 6818) > pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es > http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/ > - > > -- Professor Terrence W. Deacon University of California, Berkeley ___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] THE NEW YEAR ESSAY Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 Mechanism and Model

2015-01-19 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
PS typo correction line 5 from bottom: ... To specify information *that* a given constraint-state of a On 1/19/15, Terrence W. DEACON wrote: > Hi Loet, > > I do indeed consider this relationship to be measurable and thus > expressible mathematically. This in itself doesn&#x

Re: [Fis] THE NEW YEAR ESSAY Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 Mechanism and Model

2015-01-19 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
aim would thus be based on the > mathematical (dimensionless) character of it. > > > > Best, > > Loet > > > > -- Professor Terrence W. Deacon University of California, Berkeley ___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] THE NEW YEAR ESSAY Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 Mechanism and Model

2015-01-18 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
S Fis > Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 > Typo in line 7 (correction) > experimentally determine whether or not it "works" as proposed. > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Terrence W. DEACON > wrote: > Gordana's response provides a wonderful opening for digging into some of th

Re: [Fis] THE NEW YEAR ESSAY AND FOUR GREAT SCIENTIFIC DOMAINS Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

2015-01-18 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
3, D. Reidel, Dordrecht. On 1/18/15, Terrence W. DEACON wrote: > Typo in line 7 (correction) > > experimentally determine whether or *not* it "works" as proposed. > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Terrence W. DEACON > wrote: > >> Gordana's response

Re: [Fis] THE NEW YEAR ESSAY AND FOUR GREAT SCIENTIFIC DOMAINS Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

2015-01-18 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Typo in line 7 (correction) experimentally determine whether or *not* it "works" as proposed. On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Terrence W. DEACON wrote: > Gordana's response provides a wonderful opening for digging into some of > the most challenging and subtle issues lurk

Re: [Fis] THE NEW YEAR ESSAY AND FOUR GREAT SCIENTIFIC DOMAINS Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

2015-01-18 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
cience >>> is about the making out of one of the “great scientific domains” of >>> contemporary knowledge. >>> >>> More cogent arguments could be elaborated on how to cover sceintifically >>> the whole "information world" (human societies, beh

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Section 4/Re: Steps to a theory of reference & significance

2015-01-12 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
t; > > > Best, > > Loet Leydesdorff > > > > Professor Emeritus, University of Amsterdam > Amsterdam School of Communications Research (ASCoR) > Honorary Professor, SPRU, <http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/>University of > Sussex; Visiting Professo

Re: [Fis] MEPP

2015-01-10 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
PS: Oops, slight misstatement re B convection. Of course the gradient can be reduced by the convection process. On 1/10/15, Terrence W. DEACON wrote: > Hi Stan, > > T: Thanks for the references. I am embarrassed to say that I don't > think that I have read the two by Ka

Re: [Fis] MEPP

2015-01-10 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
it you mean organizational or structural. > > > T: Because of this it is thereby > > > S: ‘Could thereby be’ ? > > > substrate transferrable so that reference and significance are > maintainable despite complete replacement of physical substrates, i.e. via > reproduction. &

Re: [Fis] MEPP

2015-01-10 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Hi Stan, Stan: Abiotic dissipative structures will degrade their gradients as fast as possible given the bearing constraints. They are unconditional maximizers. Life that has survived has been able to apply conditions upon its entropy production, but that does not mean that it has enacted energy c

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: Re: Steps to a theory of reference & significance] Terry Deacon

2015-01-09 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
t; Subject: Re: [Fis] Steps to a theory of reference & significance > > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 03:32:22 +0100 > > From: Terrence W. DEACON > > To: Pedro C. Marijuan > > References: <54ad3798.7060...@aragon.es> <54ae7ca4.9080...@aragon.es> >

[Fis] Response to Pedro's first comments:

2015-01-09 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
ic entropy). * PS: Autogenesis is also not a Maximim Entropy Production process because it halts dissipation before its essential self-preserving constraints are degraded and therefore does not exhaust the gradient(s) on which its persistence depends. — Terry -- Professor Terrence W. Deacon Uni