Re: alfalfa vs. grass

2002-04-04 Thread NordicKees
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have an arab that is now 22 years old and for the first few years of her life here in So. Calif. we fed only alfalfa, as everybody did in those days. We then moved to Michigan for 12 years with her and had to change to grass hay with some alfalfa in it.

Re: alfalfa vs. grass

2002-04-04 Thread Northhorse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/4/02 1:55:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One theory is that there is too much magnesium in alfalfa, and it precipitates out, growing enteroliths---adding layers, sort of like a pearl, around some bit of

Re: Feeding round bales

2002-04-04 Thread coyote
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't feed round bales of hay, but I do feed round bales of cornstalks -- the horses eat the leafy parts and bed down in the stalks. I do check the stalk bales for mold and would not feed them if they were moldy. I read recently -- in one of my horse

Re: Feeding Round Bales

2002-04-04 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problems of mold and dust. My 22 year old has developed a cough from the dust and from the light blue mold that forms on damp bales of hay. There probably is also mold in the stalls from our usual wet winters. Due to eyesight problems I was not

Re: alfalfa vs. grass

2002-04-04 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tammy I should think you would find undigested alfalfa in the horses manure if it were not digestible. My book says it is the most digestible if it is properly cut.Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied

Re: questions about anemia

2002-04-04 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy, my big horse had anemia following a severe treatment for sarcoids. The treatment seemed to lower his immune system. I was told by my Vet to put him on Lixotinic, comes in a gallon container and horses like the taste. Liquid. But first

RE: Feeding Round Bales

2002-04-04 Thread Skeels, Mark A (MED)
This message is from: Skeels, Mark A (MED) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary and all,,,here's a book about my hay experience: I have had the same experience as you here in Wisconsin. Expecially with the first cutting, I usually have to leave the hay out on the field a couple weeks, otherwise there is

Re: questions about anemia

2002-04-04 Thread Kathleen Spiegel
This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had my fjord's blood tested recently and it came back that she is anemic. I was curios what you all might suggest, or recommend as far as vitamins go. I have had

Re: questions about anemia

2002-04-04 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] First, I would ask Dr.Steve White here on the list, but your fjord may not actually be anemic. What was the hematocrit reading (%cell volume)? The normal range is about 32 to 52, with draft breeds and coldblooded breeds having much lower

Compost ?

2002-04-04 Thread Snowy Mtn.
This message is from: Snowy Mtn. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there All great gardeners have more energy in the spring to plant then time to weed . Organically you don't want to use treated wood in your beds. No arsenic yuk. A well composted manure pile with and leaves etc. can reach as high as 70

Re: Questions about using composted manure for vegetable gardening

2002-04-04 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lois, check out this search (below) on this topic at GardenWeb (great site btw, w/ a multitude of specific gardening forums)...there were MANY hot lively debates about using horse manure sans ivermectin, or with...

Re: Round bales

2002-04-04 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail, et al, I am probably way outta my league here, but can't botulism occur when something living,(say a cute widdle wabbit) that (carries, produces?) botulism is inadvertantly processed along w/ the feedstuff (pellets, haylage, round

Re: alfalfa vs. grass

2002-04-04 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim and Tamara Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try to purchase only grass hay, but at times due to weather conditions alfalfa may be the only thing available. I've heard the bad thing about alfalfa is that a horse's stomach cannot

Questions about using composted manure for vegetable gardening

2002-04-04 Thread Bossmare
This message is from: Bossmare [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've been thinking of starting a small farm market specializing in gourmet veggies and herbs not usually found in the supermarket. We also have an abundance of old composted manure layered with leaf mold. Our pile is on the side of a hill with a

alfalfa vs. grass

2002-04-04 Thread Jim and Tamara Hooper
This message is from: Jim and Tamara Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's interesting to hear that most people agree they can't let their Fjords free feed. I agree mine would pop before they felt full. I am not an expert on feeds, but I have heard that grass hay is easier for the Fjords to digest and

where are you?

2002-04-04 Thread Bonnie Liermann
This message is from: Bonnie Liermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Anne Weyker: Where are you in Wisconsin? I am from Manitowoc, on the shores of Lake Michigan. bonnie

Re: Round bales

2002-04-04 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] There may be some confusion between dry round bales and round haylage bales? My understanding is that the botulism danger comes only with the haylage bales. Right? I think most of the people who have replied are referring to the dry round

Round bales

2002-04-04 Thread Janne Myrdal
This message is from: Janne Myrdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings from ND. We bail all our own hay, natural praire grass, no fertilizer ever, and all our fjords eat off round bales all winter as does the QH as well. I have never had any problems with it, sickness nor fat. The winters here can be

questions about anemia

2002-04-04 Thread Gcsolitaire
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had my fjord's blood tested recently and it came back that she is anemic. I was curios what you all might suggest, or recommend as far as vitamins go. I have had Morgan's that were anemic before, but if I put them on something like red cell, they

Re: Feeding Round Bales

2002-04-04 Thread Jimaryjmh
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Anne Since we here on our farm make round bales, I would like to tell you my experience with them. I don't know all the illnesses that can occur when a horse injests dusty or mouldy hay or how to protect against this, so I will leave that for others

Re: Feeding Round Bales

2002-04-04 Thread Vivian Creigh
This message is from: Vivian Creigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I was in Aiken training with Larry Poulin for 5 weeks the farm where he was located fed round bales, in fact round bales were fed at nearly every farm I went to. I had misgivings about putting round bales in with my three Fjord mares

Re: Feeding Round Bales

2002-04-04 Thread Anneli Sundkvist
This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I board my fjord. Most of his diet consists of round bale haylage (the horses have been given shots to avoid the most common form of botulism) that comes from the same farm where the barn is. Cider has actually spent some months whith free