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Janet,
In a message dated 12/26/2002 11:35:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Lynda, the minute you suggest not accepting purebred Fjord horses from the
> CFHA because their policies are not identical to the NFHR you are talking
>
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Rest assured I understand how crossbreeding can cause a great deal of damage.
But it is not the mere fact purebreds are crossed that does the damage, it is
what breeders and registries do with the crosses that can become harmful.
I have
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In response to a coment that crossbreds are often healthier and take the best
from both parents
Ruthie wrote:
>HOW MANY TIMES have I heard this IMPOSSIBLE to substantiate claim recycled?!
>I say it's a total falsehood and the odds of "takin
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Lynda wrote:
> Maybe you misunderstood my request. This has nothing to do with limited gene
> pool
Lynda, the minute you suggest not accepting purebred Fjord horses from the CFHA
because their policies are not identical to the NFHR you ar
This message is from: "Joan and Keith Kemp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I would like to make a few comments regarding the Canadian Fjord Horse
Association.
According to the Constitution - the objective is to encourage, develop and
regulate the breeding of pure-bred Fjord Horses in Canada.
Since 1987 all f
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Brigid wrote:
...Actually crossed breeds are much healthier, often taking the best of
both parents...
Ruthie replied:
...HOW MANY TIMES have I heard this IMPOSSIBLE to substantiate claim
recycled?! I say it's a total falsehood and the odds of "taking th
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Linda, Just one thought about nervous riders. Many well trained horses know
that legs pressing on their barrel means move forward. A nervous rider
tends to clamp their legs on their horse to hang on and lock their hands so
the bit tells the
This message is from: "Linda Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I agree with all of the postings thus far on buying a Fjord. There is no such
thing as a "bombproof" horse, and we, as riders, should expect to get bumped
and bruised from time to time. It does come with the territory!
When I do buy my Fj
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Hello Jean,
> So Please don't
> !
I believe you are misunderstanding me, and this IS a sensitive topic, so bear
with me! I am not putting down the CFHA, I know of many wonderful members
and also fantastic Fjords registered through this association. I a
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I also have an old gelding, Bjarne C-23, who has the same grandsire on both
> sides..HE is inbred! His Grandsire is Stolman C-1, the first Fjord
> registered in the CFHA, foaled in 1956 and als
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > The reason mutts have a better chance at health, longevity etc. is
simple genetics.<>.therefore problems related to inbreeding are
unlikely. Second,
> > animals can carry recessive genes which will only make themselves known
> >
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have four Fjords, all registered in the CFHA. One is also registered in
the NFHR as well as Norway, as she was imported. I also have her
granddaughter, who's sire and grandsire were also imported from Norway.
The only one on her pedigree who
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Jean,
In a message dated 12/26/2002 4:17:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Linda, when you first got into Fjords, I seem to remember you were selling
> a lot of CFHA registered fjords?
>
Yes, we had purchased some yearlings from
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Hello Mike,
In a message dated 12/26/2002 3:33:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> . If we don't allow Canadian registry horses in then we
>
So the majority of other Fjord registries allows crossbreeding? We are the
odd ones o
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In a message dated 12/26/02 1:30:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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> HOW MANY TIMES have I heard this IMPOSSIBLE to substantiate claim recycled?!
> I say it's a total falsehood and the odds of "taking the best of both
> parents" are n
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In a message dated 12/26/02 1:08:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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> Almost
> all horses can get close to being a great trail horse if given the time,
> and a competent (not necessarily great) rider. Worth the time, time,
> time!!!
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In a message dated 12/26/02 1:08:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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> . Learning how to "give the horse little jobs to
> do", especially the "calm down cues", is also valuable.
>
Well said Marsha.
List member Dagrun taught me how
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The CFHA does not condone crossbreeding, altho they do not have a penalty.
Also It is my understanding that they will not register inbred fjords born
after a certain date. Stallions and mares are now required to be DNA'd,
any offspring must be
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Author:The Colonel's Daughter
$20 PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563
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To:
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: cro
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There is really no 'bombproof' horse, Fjord or otherwise and if anyone tells
you so...? I think they're alot that don't spook at most things but to
Also remember that the horse takes his cue from the rider. So if you
are nervous
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 11:19 AM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
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So, my question still stands, why should we as NFHR members condone the
CFHA's practice of allowing inbreeding and crossbreeding?
We do not con
This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Can I make a suggestion for the timid person looking for the well trained
gelding. You may not find exactly what you want, and even if you do, the
communication between horse and rider will not be instantaneous. Find a good
trainer who
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Reena G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is really no 'bombproof' horse, Fjord or otherwise and if
> anyone tells you so...? I think they're alot that don't spook
> at most things but to Expect them to NEVER spook, well I don
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Actually crossed breeds are much healthier, often taking the best of both
> parents. >
> Brigid M Wasson
=
HOW MANY TIMES have I heard this IMPOSSIBLE to substantiate claim recycled?!
I say it's a total falsehood and the odds of
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Personally I felt the Fjord was 'just the right size' and 'just
> the right temperment' so I purchased purebreds and have no motive
> to produce crossbreds.
>
> Nonetheless, I think there is a
This message is from: "Reena G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Glad you replied to this issue Lynda
There is really no 'bombproof' horse, Fjord or otherwise and if anyone tells
you so...? I think they're alot that don't spook at most things but to
Expect them to NEVER spook, well I don't think
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Hello Linda,
We currently do not know of anyone around us with a trained gelding for sale.
I know you are looking for a "bombproof" horse as you say you are a timid
rider. Are you either taking, or considering taking, riding classes to
assist with th
This message is from: "Linda Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
After posting my last message to the Fjord digest concerning the purchase of a
Fjord gelding, I forgot to mention that it is desired to seek this gelding in
WI or the surrounding states. The reason is that it is necessary for a trial
ride b
This message is from: "Linda Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi everyone,
I'm currently in the market to purchase a Fjord gelding. Here are the
specifics of what I'm looking for:
a.. Age - 6 to 12
b.. Gelding (no exceptions)
c.. Disciplines: (first preference: trail riding Second preference:
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Hello Janet,
> The latter fear is more reasonable, but probably unnecessary for the Fjord
> breed, as the purebred Fjord offers such unique features in the horse
> world, that no crossbred is likely to
>
Have you looked at the pictures of the three re
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In a message dated 12/26/02 3:59:50 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> The people most threatened
> by the concept either do not understand genetics completely (think
> crossbreeding produces monsters or somehow changes the purebred pa
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Hello Janet,
> what a great way to shoot ourselves in the foot. One of the greatest
> dangers to any minor breed is a limited gene pool, why would the NFHR want
> to further
> limit the gene pool over something as simple as policy?
Maybe you misundersto
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Question? What is the "correct" head set for
> fjords ridden hunt seat?
All horses ridden in huntseat equitation, hunter under saddle, and all hunter
classes should be ridden "on-the-bit" with light contact. This means direct
This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Janet said:
"The people most threatened
by the concept either do not understand genetics completely (think
crossbreeding produces monsters or somehow changes the purebred parent), or
are worried their breeding stock will be devalued by cheaper
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Nonetheless, I think there is a lot of hyper phobia about crossbreeding
on this list >
Janet McNally
=
Count me among them.
If the Norwegian Fjord breed had NOT been carefully guarded and regulated
over these many years lon
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
why would someone crossbreed with a fjord? The best reason I could see doing
this is if you already own another draft breed, and want to size it down. The
draft breeds today are such huge giants they are not really practical using
horses
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I hope I am making some sense here in what I am trying to say. I would think
the only way we in the US can make it clear to the CFHA that we do NOT
condone crossbreeding or inbreeding is by not allowing ANY of their Fjords,
regardless if the
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