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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:11 PM
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Read the article, some good, some bad.
What are your thoughts on the article's baching of Cairngorm's ModelLocator? The he says its really a global var in disguise
Hi Jason,
i only saw this post now, not sure if it was directed at me or at the
list in general or both, but anyway:
i agree the naming conventions could be better, but I don't mind using
some kind of locator object. I posted previously about my approach I
think. I use an ApplicationRegistry
While I have no authority to defend why, I'm leaning toward PureMVC. From
what I remember it's very similar to whats being described here. Events are
hijacked and all commands are registered in one place which can be triggered
from anywhere. Of course I'll have to put my money where my mouth is
, 2008 10:16 AM
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While I have no authority to defend why, I'm leaning toward PureMVC. From
what I remember it's very similar to whats being described here. Events are
hijacked and all commands are registered in one place which can
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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:28 AM
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I guess alot of us (including myself) have gotten used to the
global-thing-in-disguise from using it that way in Flash and kept
doing so in Flex
Hi,
it's similar but not the same.
Yes in PureMVC you register your objects as well, but you register
them by a name defined in the class being registered (and you have to
define this name). This causes references to a concrete class
everytime you retrieve your registry item and you cannot easily
Actually, Cairngorm does allow arbitrary mappings from events to commands,
it does not require 1-to-1.
The FrontController's addCommand() function takes an event name (String) and
a Command class. In our app I have used the same event with different
name-constants to run different commands, like
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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:16 PM
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Actually, Cairngorm does allow arbitrary mappings from events to commands,
it does
Read the article, some good, some bad.
What are your thoughts on the article's baching of Cairngorm's ModelLocator?
The he says its really a global var in disguise, and I understand that, but I
still find it very handy - maybe it makes it somewhat tighter coupled to the
model, but I use the
Micky Hulse wrote:
Can anyone suggest a framework that would work best for
cartoon/experimental animations (vs. a website-oriented framework.)
To reiterate what some have said: take a look at Gaia. I used it on a
large (for us, anyway) site that includes lots of cartoon animation:
co-operative projects it is important for the reasons above.
Paul
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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:00 PM
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@ekameleon
@ekameleon, that seems a little intense for me atm. This discussion is
mainly about weather or not it's just dumb not to use a framework vs. plain
as3 when building common flash sites. I'm looking to hear things like,
PureMVC makes everything easier. or It makes no sense not to use Mate.
On Sat,
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@ekameleon, that seems a little intense for me atm. This discussion is
mainly about weather
Joel,
Considering the types of Flash sites you're talking about building, Flex is not
the solution you need. However, Flex is absolutely worth learning, if only to
expand your skillset which leads to making more money per hour. ;)
Out of all the frameworks you listed, only Gaia is for
] frameworks and flash
@ekameleon, that seems a little intense for me atm. This discussion is
mainly about weather or not it's just dumb not to use a framework vs.
plain
as3 when building common flash sites. I'm looking to hear things like,
PureMVC makes everything easier. or It makes no sense
it is important for the reasons above.
Paul
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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:00 PM
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@ekameleon, that seems a little
Hello,
So I'm trying to nail down a work flow for building flash sites (read: not
flash applications) in as3. I had just about mastered fast seo friendly as2
sites when as3 came out and now that I'm making a concerted effort to
modernize my skills I feel like I'm starting from scratch in many
We have been using Adobe Flex for the past year and have really liked it.
It would be hard to call it blazing and bloat does seem like it might
apply to some extent, but on the other hand it does so many nice things for
us it is hard to argue with. MXML is very powerful, but there is certainly
a
Thanks for the post Dave. Cairngorm sounds a lot like PureMVC which does
away with events and implements a global command structure. So far it's
appealing although my first run in with it was under bad conditions. A
client of a friend had mangled it something fierce before he was brought in
at
Haha! Before you try Cairngorm, check out this article:
http://blog.iconara.net/2008/04/13/architectural-atrocities-part-x-cairngorms-model-locator-pattern/
Having used Cairngorm for a while now I have to agree with him. The article
is pretty harsh, and it only talks about the ModelLocator
Well I'm not exactly getting into Flex yet. If after some testing I find
that I can do normal flash sites as well as RIA's I'll switch to Flex full
time and in that case, PureMVC or Mate. Right now my focus is the kind of
stuff you see on FWA.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:05 PM, David Hershberger
Hello :)
You can try Maashaack and VEGAS :
http://code.google.com/p/maashaack/
http://code.google.com/p/vegas/
To test the IoC/MVC implementation with Maashaack and VEGAS you can try the
documentary framework AST'r :
http://code.google.com/p/astr
ASTr is only a little template/example who use
Hello,
do you have examples of sites made using one these frameworks?
Olivier
ps: no need to be strictly FWA-like ;)
ekameleon a écrit :
Hello :)
You can try Maashaack and VEGAS :
http://code.google.com/p/maashaack/
http://code.google.com/p/vegas/
To test the IoC/MVC implementation with
I'm coming to the party late so I may be off topic a bit but if
you're looking for an excellent framework to build a flash website
on, you can't beat http://gaiaflashframework.com.
I built my website (http://www.memoriesforevervideo.com) on that
framework and love it.
Steve Bailey
On
Can anyone suggest a framework that would work best for
cartoon/experimental animations (vs. a website-oriented framework.)
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Read the article, some good, some bad.
If anyone declares you for a fool if you prefix interfaces with 'I'
and use marker interface, I tend to gloss over the rest of the article
since it no longer comes across trustworthy... Personal preference
aside:)
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:05 AM, David
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