Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-15 Thread Eric Wachsmann
*To:* Clay W7CE w...@curtiss.net *Cc:* Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings Clay, Are you using the same antenna setting for all of the measurements? If not, this could

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-15 Thread Bob McGwier
The meter is calculated on a single filter with a large signal in its path and for the rest of the time, it is assumed that noise is negligible compared to the tones in the calibration. This assumption appears to break down near the noise floor if your measurements are correct. This is

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-15 Thread Clay W7CE
- From: Eric Wachsmann To: Clay W7CE Cc: Bob McGwier ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings Clay, Are you using the same antenna setting for all of the measurements

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-15 Thread Clay W7CE
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings The meter is calculated on a single filter with a large signal in its path and for the rest of the time, it is assumed that noise is negligible compared to the tones in the calibration. This assumption appears to break down near the noise

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-14 Thread Clay W7CE
Hi Bob, It's certainly possible that I'm doing this wrong, so let me explain my procedure and then you can tell me if I'm making a mistake. All of the following is performed on 6M at 50.200 MHz with a 50 ohm termination connected to antenna port 1 and the bandwidth set to 500 Hz (mode CWU).

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-14 Thread Eric Wachsmann
Clay, Are you using the same antenna setting for all of the measurements? If not, this could account for the difference you are seeing. We offset the meter and display values to account for the loss through the switches in the antenna circuitry depending on the selected antenna. Eric

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-14 Thread Clay W7CE
Hi Eric, Yes. All measurements were made using antenna port 1. 73, Clay W7CE - Original Message - From: Eric Wachsmann To: Clay W7CE Cc: Bob McGwier ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-13 Thread Bob McGwier
You are not reading this correctly. The power displayed on the meter is integrated power in the receive filter, just as it should be. The computation is accurate to much more than 0.1 dB irrespective of what the display is doing. But as in all cases of such compromises, it is designed to

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-13 Thread Andy Diethard Hansen
: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings You are not reading this correctly. The power displayed on the meter is integrated power in the receive filter, just as it should be. The computation is accurate to much more than 0.1 dB irrespective of what the display is doing. But as in all cases

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-13 Thread Eric Wachsmann
Clay, I think the code you are looking for is in DttSP/sdr.c in a function called do_rx_meter. I believe it is already doing what you're wanting though (i.e. calculating total power within the filter). This is pretty easy to verify with a two-tone signal generator setup. In my experience, the

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-13 Thread Eric Wachsmann
McGwier Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 2:30 PM To: Clay W7CE Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings You are not reading this correctly. The power displayed on the meter is integrated power in the receive filter, just as it should

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-13 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote: You are not reading this correctly. The power displayed on the meter is integrated power in the receive filter, just as it should be.  The computation is accurate to much more than 0.1 dB irrespective of what the display

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-13 Thread Eric Wachsmann
Actually, it will. There is an option for this in the Setup Form - Display Tab called Show Decimal. Eric On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote: You are not reading this correctly.

Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-13 Thread Robert McGwier
Since the very first C language version of the sdr, we integrated the received power in the filter (by summing the bins of the filter and relying on parseval's relation). This is indeed in do_rx_meter in sdr.c The thing to be aware of is that do_rx_meter is used for all metering in the

[Flexradio] PowerSDR S-Meter Power Readings

2009-04-11 Thread Clay W7CE
I've been looking through the PowerSDR code to see how the RX meter signal strength is computed. Based on what I've observed it appears to based on the maximum signal found within the currently selected bandwidth. So if I'm receiving two CW signals within the current bandwidth, it will show