Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-13 Thread Jim Lux
At 07:01 PM 4/13/2007, Lee A Crocker wrote: >I expect this argument about receiver specs and methodology to be >the next AM vs SSB war. Simple tests were derived in the 70's to >describe receiver performance and many of us used these test to >compare various analogue radios. More like the 40s.

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-13 Thread Lee A Crocker
I expect this argument about receiver specs and methodology to be the next AM vs SSB war. Simple tests were derived in the 70's to describe receiver performance and many of us used these test to compare various analogue radios. We think we know something when we quote these tests, but we may n

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-13 Thread Jim Lux
At 06:52 AM 4/13/2007, Ray Andrews wrote: >Chas, > >I don't think that what the top DXers & contesters are using is necessarily >a good judge of "performance". I would agree.. contesting success is largely affected by skill and experience, part of which is driven by familiarity with equipment, m

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-13 Thread Charles Greene
Ray, The 1K doesn't work as well as a receiver with a narrow roofing filter and a good front end although it is better than a receiver without them. For example, there is a station across the bay and only 5 miles away runs 1K watts on psk31 in a contest. He wipes out the 1k about +\- 20 KHz;

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-13 Thread Tim Ellison
"Si fractum non sit, id reficere" -Unknown Roman consultant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Andrews Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-13 Thread Ray Andrews
Chas, I don't think that what the top DXers & contesters are using is necessarily a good judge of "performance". At a recent meeting of the Hoosier DX & Contest Club, I got into a discussion with a couple of out-of-town contesters who were there to pick up a plaque for top score in the Indiana

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-13 Thread Charles Greene
Jim, Probably a good judge of "performance" is to see what the top DXers and contesters are using. There has been a preference for the Yaesu 2K; its too early see where the 9K will come in. It's no accident a current TEN TEC ad shows ON4UN with two Orion IIs. (Why two)? I'm not sure where t

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Jim Lux
At 01:30 PM 4/12/2007, Lee A Crocker wrote: >You know it's funny but I think it's a bargain at $2500 just based >on the specs in the add. I already know what the SDR-1K will do >and what PowerSDR will do so all I have to do is speculate on what >systems MUST be there in order to meet the feat

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Charles Greene
Hi, Price is all relative. Isn't the Omni-VII about $2500 or a little more, and it's not even a top-of-the line transceiver. I paid $3200 + - for my Omni-VI in 1992, in 1992 $. What does the top-of-the line transceiver of the big 3 plus Ten Tec go for? Can you compare the Flex 5K to them? M

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Lee A Crocker
m! that is the real bottom line So I am willing to wait for good analysis and not hype. 73 W9OY - Original Message From: Larry W8ER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lee A Crocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Flexradio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:22

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Tim Ellison
n; 'Philip Covington'; 'Flexradio' Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ... Tim, we use a difference of ~$650 [5k vs 1k with D44]. Some guys already have sound cards. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems 512-535

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Larry W8ER
Lee .. What I think is interesting is that the impact of the announcement centers around the price. The lack of information is leading to a lot of negative talk where the price is the issue and not the various features and improvements. As soon as you mention that the $2500 includes a TCXO and

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Lee A Crocker
Part of the problem is that the announcement of the F5k was a bit premature. QST is released to a select few members before the rest of the membership and a premature release of the F5K advertisement kind of forced the issue. I think Flex was expecting a little more lead time to get all their

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread John P Basilotto W5GI
, April 12, 2007 10:56 AM To: Philip Covington; Flexradio Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ... If you do the math, the FLEX-5000A is not that much more expensive than the SDR-1000 First, lets assume the PC is a wash in this equation. A comparably loaded SDR-1000

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Larry W8ER
Brian .. don't feel bad. Ham radio has such a range of people. It's a wonder that that we ever manage to communicate with one another and and a miracle that afterwards we still want to! Your "geesh" wasn't taken wrong by everybody :o) --Larry W8ER A.R.S. - W5AMI wrote: > On 4/12/07, W2AG

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Ray Andrews
r the subtle differences in usage between worrds with similar meanings. 73, Ray, K9DUR >From: "A.R.S. - W5AMI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: Flexradio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assum

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread A.R.S. - W5AMI
On 4/12/07, W2AGN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The kind of nasty response the poor guy got is typical of many responses here, > especialyy to questions on the SDR-5000. Does not make one at all inclines to > plunk down their mega-bucks. > -- Huh??? My "geesh" comment was not directed and any one

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Bob McGwier
It is my understanding from Gerald that he has an OEM license for XP that is good for quite some time (years). Bob N4HY Philip Covington wrote: > Re: Q23 > > Could someone from Flex please give a general overview of the hardware > design changes in the SDR-5000 from the SDR-1000 design? I thin

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Philip Covington
On 4/12/07, Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you do the math, the FLEX-5000A is not that much more expensive than > the SDR-1000 > > First, lets assume the PC is a wash in this equation. A comparably > loaded SDR-1000, with a 100 watt PA, and assuming you did pare it up > with a LynxTWO

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread petervn
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Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread W2AGN
Philip Covington wrote: > On 4/12/07, A.R.S. - W5AMI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why demand anything unless you have ordered one? And if you HAVE >> bought one already, before you know what you're getting, that's not >> very prudent! >> >> John has promised more to come, and I'm sure he (or som

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Tim Ellison
the price! -Tim - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip Covington Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:11 AM To: Flexradio Subject: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ... Re: Q23 Could someone from Flex please give a

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Philip Covington
On 4/12/07, A.R.S. - W5AMI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why demand anything unless you have ordered one? And if you HAVE > bought one already, before you know what you're getting, that's not > very prudent! > > John has promised more to come, and I'm sure he (or someone) will > deliver the expect

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread A.R.S. - W5AMI
April 12, 2007 5:11 PM > To: Flexradio > Subject: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ... > > > Re: Q23 > > Could someone from Flex please give a general overview of the hardware > design changes in the SDR-5000 from the SDR-1000 design? I think that some >

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Edwin Marzan
quot;A.R.S. - W5AMI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Flexradio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:41:42 -0500 Why demand anything unless you have ordered one? And if you HAVE bou

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Gerd Loch
I would like to emphasize this demand Gerd, DJ8AY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip Covington Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 5:11 PM To: Flexradio Subject: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ... Re: Q23 Could

Re: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread John P Basilotto W5GI
10:11 AM To: Flexradio Subject: [Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ... Re: Q23 Could someone from Flex please give a general overview of the hardware design changes in the SDR-5000 from the SDR-1000 design? I think that some may get the wrong impression that the SDR-5000 is

[Flexradio] Q23. Regarding the FLEX-5000, can we assume ...

2007-04-12 Thread Philip Covington
Re: Q23 Could someone from Flex please give a general overview of the hardware design changes in the SDR-5000 from the SDR-1000 design? I think that some may get the wrong impression that the SDR-5000 is just a SDR-1000 with an integrated $1000-level sound card. I realize the hardware design is