OK, there's another release ready that should fix most (all?) of the
bugs reported so far. This time, it's just a tarball of the files
that have changed. Drop them into your FDM/YASim directory. There
are some aircraft changes as well, most of which are required for the
newest code. Be sure to
On Sunday 09 December 2001 12:41 am, you wrote:
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001.12.08 21:53]:
> > On Saturday 08 December 2001 10:07 pm, you wrote:
> > > Has anybody noted that the 3D plane model in the external view
> > > disappears when we are on air?
> >
> > You need to adjust the pilot (camera) of
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001.12.08 21:53]:
> On Saturday 08 December 2001 10:07 pm, you wrote:
> > Has anybody noted that the 3D plane model in the external view disappears
> > when we are on air?
> >
>
> You need to adjust the pilot (camera) offset. What's happening is you are in
> the middle if t
Norman Vine writes:
> another problem is in simgear / sky / cloud.cxx
>
> bool SGCloudLayer::reposition( sgVec3 p, sgVec3 up, double lon, double lat,
> double alt )
> {
>
> // now calculate update texture coordinates
> if ( last_lon < -900 ) {
>
Norman Vine writes
>>>
>>Norman Vine wrote:
>>>
>>> FWIW
>>> MingW32 < which uses the MSoft runtime libraries >
>>> is blowing up in fgInitSubsystems()
>>> in globals->saveInitialState();
>>> at
>>> /environment[0]/weather[0]/wind-north-mps[0] wind-north-mps = NaN
>>>
OK-- This ones easy to fix,
Just in case someone is wondering, this is a definition that eluded me
for a LONG time: what, exactly, is "mixture". Mixture is this: the
ratio, by volume (!) of the liquid fuel and gasseous air being drawn
into the cylinders. That's why it has to be adjusted with altitude --
the liquid densitie
On Saturday 08 December 2001 10:43 pm, you wrote:
> Question:
>
> What is the procedure for adjusting mixture with a constant speed prop
> such as the 310 has?
>
> In the c172 I had been tweaking for max rpm and then backing off a
> touch to the rich side.
>
> When I adjust mixture on the c310 eng
On Saturday 08 December 2001 10:07 pm, you wrote:
> Has anybody noted that the 3D plane model in the external view disappears
> when we are on air?
>
You need to adjust the pilot (camera) offset. What's happening is you are in
the middle if the model looking back. I'll put some reasonable defaul
Question:
What is the procedure for adjusting mixture with a constant speed prop
such as the 310 has?
In the c172 I had been tweaking for max rpm and then backing off a
touch to the rich side.
When I adjust mixture on the c310 engines, the only guage that moves
is the temp. Shouldn't the manif
John Wojnaroski writes:
> Hi
>
> Just downloaded the latest CVS. Has anyone been able to start the right engine?
>could not find the/an answer going back througt the email thread.
I'm having no problems with the second engine here:
fgfs --aircraft=c310
Curt.
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Martin Olveyra writes:
> On 2001.12.09 00:04 John Wojnaroski wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Just downloaded the latest CVS. Has anyone been able to start the right
> > engine? could not find the/an answer going back througt the email thread.
> >
> > JW
> >
>
> Have you added the command line parameter
On 2001.12.09 00:04 John Wojnaroski wrote:
> Hi
>
> Just downloaded the latest CVS. Has anyone been able to start the right
> engine? could not find the/an answer going back througt the email thread.
>
> JW
>
Have you added the command line parameter --aero=c310 ?
Has anybody noted that the 3D plane model in the external view disappears
when we are on air?
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Hi
Just downloaded the latest CVS. Has anyone been
able to start the right engine? could not find the/an answer going back througt
the email thread.
JW
On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 16:34, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> Andy Ross writes:
> > Eventually (hopefully soon), this will be extended to support
> > turbulence and wash effects at each surface. There are some
> > performance worries there, though, since if each surface depends on
> > the wash effects of
CVS remembers your passwords after the first time you enter it. Look
for ~/.cvspass and you'll see what it does.
Curt.
John Wojnaroski writes:
> > You need to check out the your copy from the SF repository as your SF
> > user ID, not anonymously. It sounds like that is what you did.
> >
> > >
> You need to check out the your copy from the SF repository as your SF
> user ID, not anonymously. It sounds like that is what you did.
>
> >
> > $ export CVS_RSH=ssh
> > $ cvs -z3:ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/opengc/ co opengc
> >
> > cvs server: Updat
On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 23:42, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> > Ross: quick question
> > using the makefile.am in opengc you created I get the following
> >
> > make[1] *** no rule to make target 'opengc_LDFLAGS', needed by 'opengc".
> > Stop.
> >
> > Is something missing in configure.in?
Looks very si
Andy Ross writes:
> Eventually (hopefully soon), this will be extended to support
> turbulence and wash effects at each surface. There are some
> performance worries there, though, since if each surface depends on
> the wash effects of all the others you go from O(N) to O(N^2) in the
> number of
Can somebody clue me on the order in which the config files are parsed?
I want to move some stuff like instrument options out of preferences.xml
I also want c172-set.xml to have some utility to it. Right now it's empty.
The particular order I'm interested in is where gets picked up.
Is it curren
Erik,
It appears I forget to commit the required file to the repository, but
it looks like John must have done so in my absense today. I think if
you do a cvs update on the base cvs tree, the --aircraft=c172 option
will now work.
Curt.
Erik Hofman writes:
> Tony Peden wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 20
John,
You need to check out the your copy from the SF repository as your SF
user ID, not anonymously. It sounds like that is what you did.
Regards,
Curt.
John Wojnaroski writes:
>
> > > > The source tree on opengc.org currently only builds on windows. We've
> had
> > > > some problems convi
Christian Mayer writes:
>
>Norman Vine wrote:
>>
>> FWIW
>> MingW32 < which uses the MSoft runtime libraries >
>> is blowing up in fgInitSubsystems()
>> in globals->saveInitialState();
>> at
>> /environment[0]/weather[0]/wind-north-mps[0] wind-north-mps = NaN
>>
>>
>> I bet this is a problem
Strange, I can't compile clean flightgear CVS without including
options.hxx in fg_props.cxx. How come other people are compiling happily
without this patch?
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Index: src/Main/fg_props.cxx
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-
On Saturday 08 December 2001 10:39 am, you wrote:
> Just did a fresh cvs update -dP on the base directory and still get this
> message:
>
Are you specifying --config=c172? You shouldn't need to because it's the
default case.
I'm putting in a stub file for consistency, but frankly it's silly beca
Norman Vine wrote:
>
> Christian Mayer writes:
> >
> >It would be really great if 0.8.0 - or even 0.7.9 works with MSVC. The
> >compiler errors are mostly fixed by now :), but I've got still problems
> >running FGFS w/o having the maths blow up during the first frame
> >(happens currently with bo
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:38:48AM -, D Luff wrote:
> I must say I agree with you here. I've never quite understood the
> desire for amazingly detailed aircraft models with moving parts and
> zillions of repaints. However, a reasonable external model is quite
> useful IMHO so one can repl
Christian Mayer writes:
>
>It would be really great if 0.8.0 - or even 0.7.9 works with MSVC. The
>compiler errors are mostly fixed by now :), but I've got still problems
>running FGFS w/o having the maths blow up during the first frame
>(happens currently with both, JSBsim and LaRCsim, but on dif
On Saturday 08 December 2001 5:25 pm, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is an asi for the c310 (260knot). Let me know if any of the calibs
> are wrong for the c310 (for noflaps stall, yellow, red bands, etc).
>
> http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/c310asi.tar.gz
>
> This should be extracted in the Aircraft/c
On Saturday 08 December 2001 2:38 pm, you wrote:
> David Findlay wrote:
> > Curt Olson wrote:
> > > So for instance if you want to try Andy's YASim 747 model, and check
> > > out his alternate (blade element-ish) approach to modeling the flight
> > > dynamics
> >
> > So what exactly does bla
Hi,
This is an asi for the c310 (260knot). Let me know if any of the calibs are
wrong for the c310 (for noflaps stall, yellow, red bands, etc).
http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/c310asi.tar.gz
This should be extracted in the Aircraft/c310 directory. It contains:
c310-vfr-panel.xml (modified to
Christian Mayer wrote:
> But one other observation: I couldn't lift of with the YAsim C310 (172
> and 747 worked fine). I can accelerate and pull. The front lifts of
> but i'm not gaining any altitude.
Was your engine RPM stuck at 1700? There is a version skew problem
with the c310.xml file.
David Findlay wrote:
> Curt Olson wrote:
> > So for instance if you want to try Andy's YASim 747 model, and check
> > out his alternate (blade element-ish) approach to modeling the flight
> > dynamics
>
> So what exactly does blade element-ish mean? Is this sorta like a
realtime
> digital
I found the following magazine review, which I used to fix the
performance of the YASim model. It's the turbo variant.
http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/specs/79cessnaturbo.html
Also, this site, which is a buyer's guide for the 310 family, has lots
of good trivia about equipment variat
> > > The source tree on opengc.org currently only builds on windows. We've
had
> > > some problems convincing John W's CVS to talk to SourceForge, which is
why
> > > there are currently two versions of the code (kingmont and
sourceforge).
>
> So John W's CVS problem caused this? We probably ough
Tony Peden wrote:
> On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 07:39, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
>
>>Just did a fresh cvs update -dP on the base directory and still get this
>>message:
>>
>>Error loading aircraft file: Failed to open file
>> at /home/Jon/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172-set.xml
>>
>
> Check for and remove --fdm
I just noticed the base package and JSBSim are out of sync.
This was found after i got a core dump while starting FlightGear (I
think Christian noticed the same problem).
Could you sync with the latest JSBSim CVS again Curtis?
Erik
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On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 07:39, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
> Just did a fresh cvs update -dP on the base directory and still get this
> message:
>
> Error loading aircraft file: Failed to open file
> at /home/Jon/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172-set.xml
Check for and remove --fdm or --aircraft options in your
.
Just did a fresh cvs update -dP on the base directory and still get this
message:
Error loading aircraft file: Failed to open file
at /home/Jon/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172-set.xml
Jon
Jon Berndt
Coordinator,
JSBSim Project
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> So what exactly does blade element-ish mean? Is this sorta like a
> realtime digital wind tunnel sorta thing? Thanks,
Nothing of the sort. But Andy appears to have a reasonable approximation for
subsonic, anyhow.
Jon
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On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 01:49, John Wojnaroski wrote:
>
>
> > The source tree on opengc.org currently only builds on windows. We've had
> > some problems convincing John W's CVS to talk to SourceForge, which is why
> > there are currently two versions of the code (kingmont and sourceforge).
So Jo
I'm planning to look into updating the autoconf stuff for OpenGC and
getting it to build on my machines here, but it probably won't be for a
few days. I'm bogged down in sendmail code for a mailserver upgrade this
week :(
--
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On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 00:49, Damion Shelton wrote:
> Hi...
>
> T
On Saturday 08 December 2001 6:38 am, you wrote:
> John Check writes:
> > Yes. FWIW I did find some pix with a fair to middlin' amount of
> > detail http://www.philyoder.com/
>
> That's a 310R, with a longer nose, more powerful engines and (I
> suspect) turbosupercharging, so there may be some m
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote:
>
> Christian Mayer writes:
> > I haven't tried the c172-yasim (assuming that when it doesn't work with
> > JSBsim and doesn't work with LaRCsim it doesn't work at all).
> >
> > After I tried it it worked!! But after a few seconds (10 or so) sitting
> > on the runway doin
Thought that I had sent this before but after
a fresh CVS up I noticed the minimal hud still
had a problem
$FG_ROOT / Huds / Instruments / Minimal / hudladder.xml
The attached gets rid of the 'munged' rungs cruft
Cheers
Norman
artificialhorizon
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Christian Mayer writes:
> I haven't tried the c172-yasim (assuming that when it doesn't work with
> JSBsim and doesn't work with LaRCsim it doesn't work at all).
>
> After I tried it it worked!! But after a few seconds (10 or so) sitting
> on the runway doing nothing it crashed (most probably the
I think this subject is currently OT (on topic :-)).
Here is someone that built himself dualthrottles and connected them to
the PC. Since its mainly about the hardware, this should be
interesting to Linux people as well:
http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds/main/howto/dualthr.htm
Bye bye,
Wolfram.
John Check writes:
> Yes. FWIW I did find some pix with a fair to middlin' amount of
> detail http://www.philyoder.com/
That's a 310R, with a longer nose, more powerful engines and (I
suspect) turbosupercharging, so there may be some minor differences on
the panel. Nice pics, though, and a gr
Alex Perry writes:
> > You're thinking of the US. In most of Canada (outside of the big
> > urban areas), they're the only big buildings around, and, once you get
> > out of the southern agricultural areas, the only large clearing in the
> > woods.
>
> Really ?! I've been wanting to spen
Erik Hofman wrote:
>
> Christian Mayer wrote:
>
> > It would be really great if 0.8.0 - or even 0.7.9 works with MSVC. The
> > compiler errors are mostly fixed by now :), but I've got still problems
> > running FGFS w/o having the maths blow up during the first frame
> > (happens currently with
Christian Mayer wrote:
> It would be really great if 0.8.0 - or even 0.7.9 works with MSVC. The
> compiler errors are mostly fixed by now :), but I've got still problems
> running FGFS w/o having the maths blow up during the first frame
> (happens currently with both, JSBsim and LaRCsim, but on
Erik Hofman wrote:
>
> Curtis L. Olson wrote:
>
> priority, but are things an average person will immediately notice and
> > ding us for) then I would be tempted to roll out the 0.7.9 release
> > soon. (I'm thinking specifically of the startup-onground sinking into
> > the ground and spinning
Alex Perry wrote:
>
> > C'mon -- we deserve an 0.8.0 for all this.
>
> Yeah, but 0.7.9 is the version we release that only works for the developers.
> Then, when everybody else explains why it doesn't work for them, we do 0.8.0
>
> 8-)
>
> Another viewpoint is we stabilize the interfaces for 0
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
priority, but are things an average person will immediately notice and
> ding us for) then I would be tempted to roll out the 0.7.9 release
> soon. (I'm thinking specifically of the startup-onground sinking into
> the ground and spinning slowly bug in JSBSim and the accel
John Wojnaroski wrote:
>>This is about as ugly as it gets. This will go on your permanent
>>record. :-) :-) :-)
>>
>>
> Argggh, banished to the netherworld... I should have realized that! :-0
There's nothing wrong with the netherw.. oh, you did'nt say Netherlands.
Pfew. :-)
Erik
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On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:15, you wrote:
> So for instance if you want to try Andy's YASim 747 model, and check
> out his alternate (blade element-ish) approach to modeling the flight
> dynamics, just run "fgfs --aircraft=747-yasim" and you'll get the
> right fdm code, and the right aerodynamics confi
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