On Wednesday 11 December 2002 9:05 pm, Jonathan Polley wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 06:25 PM, John Check wrote:
> > On Wednesday 11 December 2002 6:30 pm, Jonathan Polley wrote:
> >> I would really like to build it, but since I haven't been able to
> >> access
> >> CVS since the ro
Your best bet is to check the detailed results in config.log when
configure failes a check which you think ought to pass.
Regards,
Curt.
David Drum writes:
> I am getting to the final link again, but getting a much different error.
> Progress!
>
> # less configure
> [...]
> # Check for audio s
Martin Spott writes:
> I thought several web mirrors were also included into your counter. I
> strongly believe at least the hits of www.de.gear.org are
> counted.
Well yes, all the mirrors point to the same web counter, but that is
more of a gimicy thing anyway ... I wasn't quoting any numbe
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 21:24, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> Dave Perry writes:
> > I like the c172p-3d 3d model and 3d cockpit a lot.
> >
> > Three comments/concerns for the recent changes to the flight model:
> > 1. The nose pitch-up when adding flaps seems extreem. If I don't
> > change the ele
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 17:20, David Megginson wrote:
> Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> > I notice that we can't operate the mixture, throttle, flaps via panel
> > clicks and some of the knob click areas are a little off. Any thing
> > else? The more I run with the 3d panels the more I like them, a
Andy Ross writes:
> Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> > Alex Romosan wrote:
> > > after updating to the latest cvs, i can't fly the a4-yasim anymore:
> >
> > For what it's worth, I can reproduce this.
>
> Oddly, I couldn't; the A-4 worked fine. But I did notice a newly
> induced failure of the (rarely
Dave Perry writes:
> I like the c172p-3d 3d model and 3d cockpit a lot.
>
> Three comments/concerns for the recent changes to the flight model:
> 1. The nose pitch-up when adding flaps seems extreem. If I don't
> change the elevator trim a lot, the plane actually stalls. If I recall
>
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> Alex Romosan wrote:
> > after updating to the latest cvs, i can't fly the a4-yasim anymore:
>
> For what it's worth, I can reproduce this.
Oddly, I couldn't; the A-4 worked fine. But I did notice a newly
induced failure of the (rarely used) Cessna 310 model. I gave it so
I like the c172p-3d 3d model and 3d cockpit a lot.
Three comments/concerns for the recent changes to the flight model:
1. The nose pitch-up when adding flaps seems extreem. If I don't
change the elevator trim a lot, the plane actually stalls. If I recall
correctly, the Piper Tri-Pacer h
Jonathan Polley writes:
> I have looked at both sites and they still show 0.8/0.9 (FlightGear)
> and 0.2/0.3 (SimGear). I have tried logging into SimGear 0.3.1 and
> FlightGear 0.9.1 but both fail in the same manner. What is the proper
> repository?
Jonathan,
Next time you try to do a cvs up
Jonathan Polley writes:
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 06:49 PM, darrell.l.walisser.1
> wrote:
> > The end result of these changes is a sort-of running version. The
> > clouds3d
> > option doesn't work. It doesn't crash, but eats up huge quantities of
> > memory (300MB+) after running(
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 06:49 PM, darrell.l.walisser.1
wrote:
The end result of these changes is a sort-of running version. The
clouds3d
option doesn't work. It doesn't crash, but eats up huge quantities of
memory (300MB+) after running(during fgfs startup) for a few minutes at
whic
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 06:25 PM, John Check wrote:
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 6:30 pm, Jonathan Polley wrote:
I would really like to build it, but since I haven't been able to
access
CVS since the roll out of 0.9.1, I can't. It's odd that only the CVS
FlightGear and SimGear d
Jon Stockill writes:
> New Slackware 8.0/8.1 and 9.0 packages for FlightGear 0.9.1 are now
> available at http://flightgear.stockill.org.uk/
Thanks!
Curt.
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New Slackware 8.0/8.1 and 9.0 packages for FlightGear 0.9.1 are now
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Andy,
For what it's worth, I can reproduce this.
Regards,
Curt.
Alex Romosan writes:
> Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > OK, fixed. The model was almost converging, but wasn't getting close
> > enough to the threshold. It was oscillating around the right values,
> > but each iterati
Hehe...I was just going to send an email on that. Maybe that pause code in
fgprops should be ifdef'd with "ENABLE_AUDIO_SUPPORT" if you decide not to do
away with the flag.
Best,
Jim
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Jim Wilson writes:
> > Hmmm...I'm not getting any sound at all wi
Jim Wilson writes:
> Hmmm...I'm not getting any sound at all with this afternoon's cvs.
A light slowly begins to glow brighter above my head ... hold on.
Looks like I inadvertantly dropped the AC_DEFINE(ENABLE_AUDIO_SUPPORT)
so we were getting built without audio support which was why the
freeze
Hmmm...I'm not getting any sound at all with this afternoon's cvs.
Best,
Jim
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Looks like fgInitProps() needs to have the sound manager initialized
> first. When it ties /sim/freeze/master, this calls setFreeze() which
> needs to have a valid global
I gave it a try last week (Mac OS X 10.2).
I had to make a bunch of small fixes to the clouds3d code to get it to
compile. Mostly this involved changing "int" to "GLint". Also had to add a
current gl context function (Q: why is this needed?).
http://homepage.mac.com/walisser/.cv/walisser/Public/F
> In the last year, the biggest month for the web server was September
> when we did the 0.8.0 release. We did 180615 web hits in a single day
> (Sep. 13). This month when we released 0.9.0 we had a day (Dec. 4)
> where we hit 206997 web server hits in a single day. We were in the
> middle of mo
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 6:30 pm, Jonathan Polley wrote:
> I would really like to build it, but since I haven't been able to access
> CVS since the roll out of 0.9.1, I can't. It's odd that only the CVS
> FlightGear and SimGear don't work (plib works just great). If someone
> would like to h
Quoth Andy Ross:
> Some of the missing symbols (slScheduler et. al.) should be found in
> the Plib "sl" library, which for some reason doesn't appear on your
> linker command line.
The reason is that $HOSTTYPE is not "macintosh", it is "powerpc".
I checked 10.0.4 and 10.1 on a TiBook, and 10.2 on
Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> OK, fixed. The model was almost converging, but wasn't getting close
> enough to the threshold. It was oscillating around the right values,
> but each iteration moved to far to be considered "done". This is a
> problem with this kind of heuristic. Just movin
I would really like to build it, but since I haven't been able to access CVS since the
roll out of 0.9.1, I can't. It's odd that only the CVS FlightGear and SimGear don't
work (plib works just great). If someone would like to help me get CVS access again,
I would love to build the MacOS 10.1 v
> The big problematic area for this class of aircraft historically has
> been the transition between "hover", or rotor based operation and
> "flying", where the wings are important. That regime is unstable and
> recovery difficult.
This does not have to be as difficult as it is with the V-22. T
Curtis L. Olson writes:
Yup, that's the one I've been using. It has a wierd jitter on the
ground in the gear model that also causes it to spin slowly left. I
don't know if that is something in the aero config or in the gear
code, but I'd like to put that on the gripe list as well.
Noted.
__
I wrote:
> Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> > With the latest YASim changes, the J3 Cub won't converge for me (and
> > others.)
>
> Confirmed. Sorry, I didn't test this one.
OK, fixed. The model was almost converging, but wasn't getting close
enough to the threshold. It was oscillating around the right
David Megginson writes:
> Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> > David Megginson writes:
> > > Well, let's start cleaning them up. I don't think we're too far off,
> > > and with Andy's patch to make hotspots visible, it should be easy to
> > > debug the mouse problems and to add new hotspots for 3D i
These may or may not be interesting, but here are some recent stats
for anyone who cares.
In the last year, the biggest month for the web server was September
when we did the 0.8.0 release. We did 180615 web hits in a single day
(Sep. 13). This month when we released 0.9.0 we had a day (Dec. 4)
First,
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> wrote this piece of wisdom:
> > Our (ACE/ICE) multiplayer engi
Curtis L. Olson writes:
> David Megginson writes:
> > Well, let's start cleaning them up. I don't think we're too far off,
> > and with Andy's patch to make hotspots visible, it should be easy to
> > debug the mouse problems and to add new hotspots for 3D instruments.
>
> That sounds great
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> On 07:09, giovedì 12 dicembre 2002, ace project
> wrote this piece of wisdom:
> > Our (ACE/ICE) multiplayer engine is ready to draw
> > planes in the game now, but I cant seem to figure
> out
> > ho
David Megginson writes:
> Well, let's start cleaning them up. I don't think we're too far off,
> and with Andy's patch to make hotspots visible, it should be easy to
> debug the mouse problems and to add new hotspots for 3D instruments.
That sounds great. I think our support for fully operation
> I think the big danger is at landing or takeoff. If you lose an
> engine or have any sort of mechanical failure on a single side, you
> are going to hit hard at some really odd angle.
The engines are capable to deliver _enormous_ power for a short time in case
of an engine failure - I believe t
> Modified Files:
> obj.cxx
> Log Message:
> Have DummyBSphereEntity inherit from ssgBranch instead of ssgEntity,
> to allow building with the latest plib CVS.
Uh, I appreciate this one _very_ much because it enables me to follow the
current development.
Thanks,
Martin.
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Curtis L. Olson writes:
> I notice that we can't operate the mixture, throttle, flaps via panel
> clicks and some of the knob click areas are a little off. Any thing
> else? The more I run with the 3d panels the more I like them, and the
> more I dislike the 2d panels (although we still need
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> With the latest YASim changes, the J3 Cub won't converge for me (and
> others.)
Confirmed. Sorry, I didn't test this one.
> Any ideas?
No, sadly. A quick spot check shows that it fails for pretty much all
sane configuration changes. And the thing that *should* return
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On 07:09, giovedì 12 dicembre 2002, ace project wrote this piece of wisdom:
> Our (ACE/ICE) multiplayer engine is ready to draw
> planes in the game now, but I cant seem to figure out
> how to add them to the drawing graph in a way that I
> can actuall
How close are we to making a 3d cockpit enabled C172 be our default
startup aircraft?
I notice that we can't operate the mixture, throttle, flaps via panel
clicks and some of the knob click areas are a little off. Any thing
else? The more I run with the 3d panels the more I like them, and the
mo
Andy,
With the latest YASim changes, the J3 Cub won't converge for me (and
others.) I get the following:
Finally initializing fdm
Start common FDM init
...initializing position...
...initializing ground elevation to -0.000431126ft...
...initializing sea-level radius...
lat = 37.6117 alt = -0.00
Our (ACE/ICE) multiplayer engine is ready to draw
planes in the game now, but I cant seem to figure out
how to add them to the drawing graph in a way that I
can actually see them.
Does anyone know how to do this or know the pitfalls
why is it failing ?
Tries so far:
---
class fgPeer::FGModelPla
Looks like fgInitProps() needs to have the sound manager initialized
first. When it ties /sim/freeze/master, this calls setFreeze() which
needs to have a valid globals->get_sound_mgr(). We might also be able
to test if sound_mgr is null and not try to mess with it.
Regards,
Curt.
William Earne
--- David Luff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Curtis L Olson writes:
> >The best thing to do would be to look at your
> config.log and see
> >exactly why those checks are failing.
>
> Hmm, why didn't I think of that? Doh!
>
> The checks that are unexpectedly failing all have
> references to the M
I'm suddenly seeing this here myself ... anyone track this down yet?
Curt.
William Earnest writes:
> Hello,
>
> Managed to get more info than usual from an execution crash after
> rebuild with 12/11/02 7AM EST CVS. Hope someone can make use of it.
> Run on RH 7.1, g++ = 2.96-112.7.1 of
Has anyone built FlightGear 0.9.1 for Mac OS X yet? I'd like to be
able to add the mac version to the downloads section at some point.
Thanks,
Curt.
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Curtis L. Olson writes:
> Try adding LIBS="$saved_LIBS" after the metakit version check and see
> if that cleans it up.
Yes, that does the trick, and I see it's now in CVS.
Thanks,
David
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David Megginson writes:
> No, and I wasn't experiencing this problem a few days ago. I'm using
> autoconf 2.57. I'll do more investigation.
>
> However, this line does appear in configure.ac (line 307):
>
> LIBS="$saved_LIBS -lmk4"
>
> Presumably, LIBS should be set back to saved_LIBS after
Andy Ross writes:
> It looks to me like a gcc invocation (as opposed to g++) is being
> used
I missed that completely. Thanks.
All the best,
David
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Norman Vine writes:
> But my question is
> "Where is the requirement for -lmk coming from"
>
> this is the only reference to metakit in configure.ac
> and it only checks for the header
>
> dnl Check for system installed metakit
> AC_CHECK_HEADER(mk4.h)
> if test "x$ac_cv_header_mk4_h"
David Megginson writes:
> With the latest SimGear CVS, I'm getting this in config.log:
>
> configure:8649: checking for ftime
> configure:8699: gcc-3.2 -o
conftest -g -O1 -finline-limit=6 -finline-functions -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include
-L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.c -lm -ljpeg -lmk4
>&5
>
David Megginson wrote:
> configure:8649: checking for ftime
> configure:8699: gcc-3.2 -o conftest -g -O1 -finline-limit=6
> -finline-functions -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.c -lm -ljpeg -lmk4 >&5
> /usr/local/lib/libmk4.so: un
With the latest SimGear CVS, I'm getting this in config.log:
configure:8649: checking for ftime
configure:8699: gcc-3.2 -o conftest -g -O1 -finline-limit=6 -finline-functions
-D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.c -lm -ljpeg -lmk4 >&5
/usr/local/lib/libmk4.so: undefi
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
Tony Peden writes:
--- Jim Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hmmmthat should thin the ranks down on Wall St even more. ... IMHO
that thing
even "looks" dangerous :-)
More dangerous than a helicopter? ...
It sounds like avoiding the "vortex ring state"...
I
Carsten.Hoefer wrote:
> Forgetting about all 'unsafe' situations in helicopters, do we have
> one in flightgear? Is it possible to model one with the existing
> flight models we use?
Not without a lot of code work. Helicopters have a bunch of effects
that don't exist in the current FDMs.
Things
Hello,
Managed to get more info than usual from an execution crash after
rebuild with 12/11/02 7AM EST CVS. Hope someone can make use of it.
Run on RH 7.1, g++ = 2.96-112.7.1 of RH.
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:18:15 +0100 (CET),
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Forgetting about all 'unsafe' situations in helicopters, do we have
> one in flightgear? Is it possible to model one with the existing
> flight models we use?
..one option is borrow the fdm off h
Curt,
> Currently, the windows 0.9.1 base package is in .tgz format. Winzip
> understands this format. However, it would be nice to have the base
> package in .zip format. Would someone be willing to zip up the 0.9.1
I've made a .zip archive available for the base package again under
http://w
Curtis L Olson writes:
>The best thing to do would be to look at your config.log and see
>exactly why those checks are failing.
Hmm, why didn't I think of that? Doh!
The checks that are unexpectedly failing all have references to the Metakit librarys.
The stuff included below (for gettimeofday
David,
The best thing to do would be to look at your config.log and see
exactly why those checks are failing.
Regards,
Curt.
David Luff writes:
> I've just tried configuring a fresh checkout of Simgear on a fresh install
> of Libranet Linux (Debian Woody based) and the configure script can't f
I've just tried configuring a fresh checkout of Simgear on a fresh install
of Libranet Linux (Debian Woody based) and the configure script can't find
gettimeofday, rand, srand, rand48 and a host of others at the end of the
configure script. This breaks timing.cxx :-( Given that simultaneous
chang
Forgetting about all 'unsafe' situations in helicopters, do we have one
in flightgear? Is it possible to model one with the existing flight
models we use?
cu,
Carsten
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