Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error CYGWIN

2005-12-15 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Hi David, your help did not only save the day but the rest of the week, thank you very much :-) I could compile the CVS and FG is running! Have you tried adding -DNOMINMAX to your CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS? Mmh, this was behind my scope. If you ever have some time then tell me please where I fi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error CYGWIN

2005-12-15 Thread David Luff
Have you tried adding -DNOMINMAX to your CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS? Alternatively try adding #ifdef HAVE_CONFIG_H # include #endif as the first include of each cxx or cpp file giving problems. I'm not using Cygwin any more BTW, so I'm posting blind, but I'm pretty sure it will turn out to be the o

[Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error CYGWIN

2005-12-15 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Hi, after many!!! new builds without any problem I have got a new one over the last days when trying to compile the newest CVS under Cygwin. At last I even made a complete new Cygwin install and complete new download of SimGear and FlightGear CVS and tried to compile the whole stuff - same resu

[Flightgear-devel] CVS server running out of disk space?

2005-12-10 Thread Pigeon
Hi, Just in case if no one noticed, when I do cvs up for FG or simgear i'm getting "No space left on device" error, and i think it meant the cvs server, not my local disk... Pigeon. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS and PLIB

2005-11-27 Thread Martin Spott
"Jon Berndt" wrote: > Is there some kind of problem going on with downloading PLIB from CVS? Seems > there's been > a "partial outage" in progress on SF.net for weeks. I can't get plib from > CVS, though ... I made a copy of the latest CVS available: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel

[Flightgear-devel] CVS and PLIB

2005-11-27 Thread Jon Berndt
Is there some kind of problem going on with downloading PLIB from CVS? Seems there's been a "partial outage" in progress on SF.net for weeks. I can't get plib from CVS, though ... :-( Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear

[Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/b1900d ...

2005-11-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Syd Adams: [...] > Having some trouble with material animation ... > it appears global material changes only affect objects that share the same > texture file doesn't only look at what ac3d files define in a "MATERIAL" entry, but at all material parameters, including the texture. It affects a

[Flightgear-devel] CVS SIGSEGV?

2005-11-11 Thread Josh Babcock
I just did a cvs up and when I run fg I get this strace output . . . ioctl(7, 0x6447, 0) = 0 ioctl(7, 0x6447, 0) = 0 ioctl(7, 0x6447, 0) = 0 ioctl(7, 0x6447, 0) = 0 ioctl(7, 0x6447, 0) = 0 ioctl(7,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS problems

2005-11-09 Thread George Patterson
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 17:06 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > Hi all, > I am having a problem compiling the lattest ( 1/2 Hour ago ) > flightgear. I have also updated simgear and recompiled. > the error I get is while making flightgear as follows, > > Making all in MultiPlayer > make[2]: Entering di

[Flightgear-devel] CVS problems

2005-11-09 Thread Jason Cox
Hi all, I am having a problem compiling the lattest ( 1/2 Hour ago ) flightgear. I have also updated simgear and recompiled. the error I get is while making flightgear as follows, Making all in MultiPlayer make[2]: Entering directory `/root/source/src/MultiPlayer' if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS "make" error (Cygwin)

2005-11-07 Thread Durk Talsma
On Monday 07 November 2005 16:28, George Patterson wrote: > On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 15:02 +, Kevin Jones wrote: > > Hi, > > > > CVS FG source at 2:30pm (UK time) Monday 7th November fails to "make" > > on Cygwin with the following error: > > > > make[2]: Entering directory /source/src/MultiPlayer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS "make" error (Cygwin)

2005-11-07 Thread George Patterson
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 15:02 +, Kevin Jones wrote: > Hi, > > CVS FG source at 2:30pm (UK time) Monday 7th November fails to "make" > on Cygwin with the following error: > > make[2]: Entering directory /source/src/MultiPlayer > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `tiny_xdr.cpp', needed by > `t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS "make" error (Cygwin)

2005-11-07 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Monday 07 November 2005 15:02, Kevin Jones wrote: > CVS FG source at 2:30pm (UK time) Monday 7th November fails to "make" > on Cygwin with the following error: > make[2]: Entering directory /source/src/MultiPlayer > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `tiny_xdr.cpp', needed by > `tiny_xdr.o'. S

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS "make" error (Cygwin)

2005-11-07 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi, Kevin Jones wrote: Hi, CVS FG source at 2:30pm (UK time) Monday 7th November fails to "make" on Cygwin with the following error: make[2]: Entering directory /source/src/MultiPlayer make[2]: *** No rule to make target `tiny_xdr.cpp', needed by `tiny_xdr.o'. Stop. Can anyone help? Had th

[Flightgear-devel] CVS "make" error (Cygwin)

2005-11-07 Thread Kevin Jones
Hi, CVS FG source at 2:30pm (UK time) Monday 7th November fails to "make" on Cygwin with the following error: make[2]: Entering directory /source/src/MultiPlayer make[2]: *** No rule to make target `tiny_xdr.cpp', needed by `tiny_xdr.o'. Stop. Can anyone help? Kevin. _

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-20 Thread Frank Olaf
The same problem is present using MSYS/Mingw with 5min old cvs.. Georg Vollnhals wrote: David Luff schrieb: Cygwin doesn't have HUGE, so change HUGE to HUGE_VAL and -HUGE to -HUGE_VAL and I suspect this should compile. Changing HUGE to HUGE_VAL in simple.cxx solved the problem! Thank

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-20 Thread Norman Vine
Erik Hofman > > David Luff wrote: > > > Fair point. Do you know if HUGE is part of a standard anywhere that > > definately should be supplied by Cygwin, or is it simply available from > > everyone else by unwritten convention? > > According to the IRIX header file it would be an ANSI definition

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-20 Thread Erik Hofman
David Luff wrote: Fair point. Do you know if HUGE is part of a standard anywhere that definately should be supplied by Cygwin, or is it simply available from everyone else by unwritten convention? According to the IRIX header file it would be an ANSI definition. Erik __

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-20 Thread David Luff
On 20/10/2005 at 10:50 Erik Hofman wrote: >David Luff wrote: > >> Cygwin doesn't have HUGE, so change HUGE to HUGE_VAL and -HUGE to >-HUGE_VAL >> and I suspect this should compile. > >Ok, I've committed a fix. >> >> I guess that we could do something in compiler.h along the lines of >> >> #ifd

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-20 Thread Erik Hofman
David Luff wrote: Cygwin doesn't have HUGE, so change HUGE to HUGE_VAL and -HUGE to -HUGE_VAL and I suspect this should compile. Ok, I've committed a fix. I guess that we could do something in compiler.h along the lines of #ifdef __CYGWIN__ #define HUGE HUGE_VAL #define -HUGE -HUGE_VAL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-19 Thread Georg Vollnhals
David Luff schrieb: Cygwin doesn't have HUGE, so change HUGE to HUGE_VAL and -HUGE to -HUGE_VAL and I suspect this should compile. Changing HUGE to HUGE_VAL in simple.cxx solved the problem! Thank you, thank you :-) Have just made a testflight with the new FG version! I guess that we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-19 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Thank you David, now off to work, I'll try it this evening! Regards Georg David Luff schrieb: BTW, Georg, CVS SimGear should compile on Cygwin 3.4.4 now, and CVS FlightGear will probably compile on it if you add .. Then send the output of "cvs diff -u" from the FlightGear directory to Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-19 Thread David Luff
On 19/10/2005 at 12:05 Georg Vollnhals wrote: >Hi Erik/Durk? >Since your update of simple.cxx/hxx on the 18.10.05 the newest CVS >version does not compile anymore :-( > >Error: >simple.cxx: In member function `int >FGGroundNetwork::findNearestNode(double, > double)': >simple.cxx:1331: error:

[Flightgear-devel] CVS compiling error

2005-10-19 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Hi Erik/Durk? Since your update of simple.cxx/hxx on the 18.10.05 the newest CVS version does not compile anymore :-( Error: simple.cxx: In member function `int FGGroundNetwork::findNearestNode(double, double)': simple.cxx:1331: error: `HUGE' undeclared (first use this function) simple.cxx:

[Flightgear-devel] CVS version/terrasync DB problem with UG25, LL62: crash(bo105)/strange(ufo)

2005-10-11 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
When I start the CVS version at the UG25 airport with bo105 (yesterday's CVS data, the day before CVS sources), it core dumps on startup as follows: #0 yasim::Turbulence::getTurbulence (this=0xad2cee0, loc=0x4fea8008, alt=nan(0x40), up=0xbfffed60, turbOut=0xbfffedb0) at Turbulence.cpp:100

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Weekly Snapshot (was RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9)

2005-10-05 Thread David Luff
"Ampere K. Hardraade" writes: > On October 5, 2005 01:49 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > If someone wants to do this, and promises to keep up on it, I can put a > > link on the FG web site ... > > > > Curt. > > How should the version number progress? Should it be 0.9.9, 0.9.10, 0.9.11, > etc. or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Weekly Snapshot (was RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9)

2005-10-05 Thread Andy Ross
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: > > > By cvs snapshots, I mean binary-snapshots packed into .deb, .rpm, etc. > > > If someone wants to do this, and promises to keep up on it, I can > > put a link on the FG web site ... > > How should the version nu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Weekly Snapshot (was RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9)

2005-10-05 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On October 5, 2005 01:49 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > If someone wants to do this, and promises to keep up on it, I can put a > link on the FG web site ... > > Curt. How should the version number progress? Should it be 0.9.9, 0.9.10, 0.9.11, etc. or 0.9.9.1, 0.9.9.2, 0.9.9.3, etc? Ampere _

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Weekly Snapshot (was RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9)

2005-10-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On October 5, 2005 07:58 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Do you mean replace the "instant" cvs snapshots with snapshots only taken at weekly intervals? :-) By cvs snapshots, I mean binary-snapshots packed into .deb, .rpm, etc. If someone wants to do this, an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Weekly Snapshot (was RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9)

2005-10-05 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On October 5, 2005 07:58 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Do you mean replace the "instant" cvs snapshots with snapshots only > taken at weekly intervals? :-) By cvs snapshots, I mean binary-snapshots packed into .deb, .rpm, etc. Ampere ___ Flightgear-deve

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Weekly Snapshot (was RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9)

2005-10-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I have been wondering this for quite a while: will it be a good idea to provide weekly CVS snapshots? Do you mean replace the "instant" cvs snapshots with snapshots only taken at weekly intervals? :-) http://cvs.flightgear.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/source/

[Flightgear-devel] CVS Weekly Snapshot (was RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9)

2005-10-04 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I have been wondering this for quite a while: will it be a good idea to provide weekly CVS snapshots? Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS - Cywin Problems

2005-08-30 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 20:21, Vivian Meazza wrote: > This behaviour has been confirmed by AJ on a similarly specified machine. I would maybe also just add that I was working with a different version of GCC (3.3.3) but obtained identical symptoms to what Vivian has already described. AJ _

[Flightgear-devel] CVS - Cywin Problems

2005-08-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Some time ago I wrote that I was having trouble with CVS compiling under Cygwin using gcc version 3.4.4-1, on a Pentium 4 2.8, with a Nvidia GForce 5200 using driver 77.77. FG complies without error, but hangs at the end of "loading scenery objects". Running --log-level=debug shows that the main lo

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Neville van Deventer
Done, Sorted, I've got a connection now, Thanks Nev -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Ross Sent: 20 July 2005 06:41 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Neville van Deventer

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Neville van Deventer > Thanks for the responses Vivian and Curtis, > > In Future I Will use Plain Text, my Appologies ... > > OK, Setup and what I'm Doing, > > I Just tried it now again, while writing this message so you can check the > logs for the past 5 min's or so, I've been thying this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Andy Ross
Neville van Deventer wrote: > Error validating location: "I/O exception occurred: Connection > refused: I HATE YOU" Heh, that's amusing. I googled this, and it turns out that "I HATE YOU" is the defined response in the CVS protocol for authentication failures. :) You may have a bad password in y

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Neville van Deventer
out not using plain text originally. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vivian Meazza Sent: 20 July 2005 06:04 PM To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Works here. What _exactly_ are you doing? Any pos

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Neville van Deventer Hi List,   Could anyone perhaps tell me how to connect to the cvs at cvs.flightgear.org without getting the following error   Error validating location: "I/O exception occurred: Connection refused: I HATE YOU"   I followed the Instructions on the web-site, and I get the same

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Neville van Deventer wrote: Hi List, Could anyone perhaps tell me how to connect to the cvs at cvs.flightgear.org without getting the following error Error validating location: "I/O exception occurred: Connection refused: I HATE YOU" I followed the Instructions on the web-site, and I get the

[Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Neville van Deventer
Hi List,   Could anyone perhaps tell me how to connect to the cvs at cvs.flightgear.org without getting the following error   Error validating location: "I/O exception occurred: Connection refused: I HATE YOU"   I followed the Instructions on the web-site, and I get the same thing for simg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-30 Thread bass pumped
Point taken. Will correct. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Simon Hollier > > Andy Ross wrote: > > Simon Hollier wrote: > > > >>Andy Ross wrote: > >> > >>>And your usage of the ellipsis is non-standard; it should > >>>represent missing text. > >> > >>It did represent missing text: "Some of use were tought, " > > > > > > Except that text wasn't missing. Y

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-30 Thread Simon Hollier
Andy Ross wrote: Simon Hollier wrote: Andy Ross wrote: And your usage of the ellipsis is non-standard; it should represent missing text. It did represent missing text: "Some of use were tought, " Except that text wasn't missing. You quoted it, remember? And even if not, it was *my* tex

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-30 Thread Andy Ross
Simon Hollier wrote: > Andy Ross wrote: > > And your usage of the ellipsis is non-standard; it should > > represent missing text. > > It did represent missing text: "Some of use were tought, " Except that text wasn't missing. You quoted it, remember? And even if not, it was *my* text and can't b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-30 Thread Simon Hollier
Andy Ross wrote: Simon Hollier wrote: Andy Ross wrote: [...] tought [...] ...and some of us were taught ;> Oh, the irony! Mea culpa. But it would only have been ironic if I were criticizing spelling, not usage. You didn't punctuate your first sentence, by the way. Smileys don't count.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-30 Thread Andy Ross
Simon Hollier wrote: > Andy Ross wrote: > > [...] tought [...] > > ...and some of us were taught ;> > Oh, the irony! Mea culpa. But it would only have been ironic if I were criticizing spelling, not usage. You didn't punctuate your first sentence, by the way. Smileys don't count. And your usag

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-30 Thread Simon Hollier
Andy Ross wrote: incomplete sentences. Remember that many of us are old enough to have been tought to read and write on paper, and honestly don't speak the ...and some of us were taught ;> Oh, the irony! Simon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-30 Thread Andy Ross
bass pumped wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > bass pumped wrote: > > > The website says the password is 'guest'. It doesn't work for me! > > > just stalls!! > > > > Why do you yell at me !? > > I'm sorry... I didn't think I was yelling at you. But if u feel I > did so, I sincerely apologize, that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-28 Thread bass pumped
I give up... could someone save me the suffering and mail me a tarball of openal they have to this address? I've decided cvs hates me lol... kind of reminds me of Martin's signature on all his posts!! ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-28 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 08:23, bass pumped wrote: > > > > > > cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/cvs-repository co openal > > > I tried this command too!! nothing happened. it just sits. Didn't > even ask me for a password. I am using Fedora Core 2. Does this have > anything to do wi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-28 Thread Erik Hofman
bass pumped wrote: The website says the password is 'guest'. It doesn't work for me! just stalls!! Try (no password). I works for me. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-28 Thread bass pumped
> > Why do you yell at me !? I'm sorry... I didn't think I was yelling at you. But if u feel I did so, I sincerely apologize, that was not my intention. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mail

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-28 Thread Martin Spott
bass pumped wrote: >> after doing a CVS login. I don't remember the password, though .. >> > The website says the password is 'guest'. It doesn't work for me! > just stalls!! Why do you yell at me !? Probably you are using a firewall which blocks your attempts - just an idea, Martin. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-28 Thread bass pumped
> > > > cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/cvs-repository co openal I tried this command too!! nothing happened. it just sits. Didn't even ask me for a password. I am using Fedora Core 2. Does this have anything to do with it? ___ Flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-28 Thread bass pumped
> Yes, I do this already for months at least since FlightGear uses > OpenAL. I did the initial checkout using this command: > > cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/cvs-repository co openal > > > after doing a CVS login. I don't remember the password, though .. > The website

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-27 Thread Martin Spott
bass pumped wrote: > Sorry to bother you guys... I know this is unrelated but I have to > ask. Are you able to access CVS for OpenAL? Yes, I do this already for months at least since FlightGear uses OpenAL. I did the initial checkout using this command: cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

[Flightgear-devel] CVS for OpenAL

2005-06-27 Thread bass pumped
Sorry to bother you guys... I know this is unrelated but I have to ask. Are you able to access CVS for OpenAL? I followed the instructions on the download page of openAL, but none of those commands seem to work... in the sense everytime I try to login, it just hangs, and I end up having to stop

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi All, what about that one: Instead of stamping the current time timestamp a second time past the sleep, we could just add the desired time we intended to wait to that timestamp. This way the current loop might start a bit too late, but the sleep time of the next step will be that amount shor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Drew
X-Plane opens in a 1024x768 borderless window, which doesn't fill my laptop display at 1400x1050. However, when I reduce and restore windows, I can tell that the X-Plane process preempts the windows processes because the windows open slowly. X-Plane still yields some time to the windows, though,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Drew
> It seems to me that you have gone backwards: you picked a favorite > "fix" before knowing what the problem is. The bottom line is that > performance analysis is really complicated. You can't cook it down to > a single number like CPU usage (or "load" -- a equally flawed Unix > favorite) if you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Curtis L. Olson wrote : Frederic, I've been hacking on your patch a bit more and I see that we rarely oversleep by more than 2ms. So backing off by 2ms (instead of 1ms) seems to work pretty well here. I also switched to doing all the math in microseconds rather than milleseconds (and convertin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Andy Ross
Drew wrote: > I'm not really interested in how other 3D apps, including games, > work...I have a specific application, and I want to optimize the > code for this purpose, regardless of what the status quo is. And the proper way to do that optimization is to figure out what the actual symptom is.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic, I've been hacking on your patch a bit more and I see that we rarely oversleep by more than 2ms. So backing off by 2ms (instead of 1ms) seems to work pretty well here. I also switched to doing all the math in microseconds rather than milleseconds (and converting at the latest possibl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Drew wrote: I don't know the answer to this. My computer has 512 megs, which is a lot more than FlightGear uses. I'm not really interested in how other 3D apps, including games, work...I have a specific application, and I want to optimize the code for this purpose, regardless of what the status qu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Drew
> I don't wonder, though, if that isn't due to locking inside GDI (or VM > swap -- how much memory do you have?) and not CPU usage. Applications > doing 3D rendering don't coexist well with things that need to draw to > the screen. > > Can you try something "purely" CPU intensive (like a perl scr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Andy Ross
Drew wrote: > The program runs great, it's just that FlightGear gets interrupted > easily by other programs, and is jumpy in my particular application. > If you open and close a window, you can see how FlightGear freezes > momentarily. I don't wonder, though, if that isn't due to locking inside GD

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Drew
Thanks for the quick response. > I have a specific application that requires better timing than sleep() > can provide, so I need the original busy-wait solution or something very > close to it. I don't mind adding a sleep() based throttling mechanism > as well, but people who use it need to reali

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Drew wrote: I don't think anyone suggested there was a bug...I'm just trying to improve performance. I'm writing a simulator that interfaces with FlightGear, using FlightGear as the scenery generator on the same PC. The program runs great, it's just that FlightGear gets interrupted easily by othe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Drew
> Wait, that's not a bug report about processing time available for > other proceses at all. That's a bug report about the total CPU usage > being at 99%, which is irrelevant. If the CPU is available, then of > course FlightGear should use it all; you can't save up cycles -- > either use them now

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Andy Ross
I asked: > What is the application that needs extra CPU, and are we sure that > it's not being performance limited in some other way? Aha! Drew wrote: > In Windows, adding this code did absolutely nothing to the > processing time...it remains at 99% usage whether I throttle back to > 60, 30, or 1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Maybe we need separate options, such as > --cpu-friendly-inaccurate-throttle-with-sleep-hz= and > --frame-rate-accurate-throttle= > > Thoughts? I think we need to tread a bit more carefully on this one, > especially since I have a side project that employs this option (wel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Frederic, Your patch helps, but typically the semantics of sleep() commands is they will sleep at least as long as the requested time (up to the kernel trap timing resolution) so I am still seeing dropped frames, although not nearly as bad. If the kernel timing resolution

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Drew
Sorry to borrow this thread for my own purpose, but I'm trying to achieve goal 1 with as little impact on goal 2 as possible. I tried this patch with mixed results. In Windows, adding this code did absolutely nothing to the processing time...it remains at 99% usage whether I throttle back to 60,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic, Your patch helps, but typically the semantics of sleep() commands is they will sleep at least as long as the requested time (up to the kernel trap timing resolution) so I am still seeing dropped frames, although not nearly as bad. If the kernel timing resolution is different than the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I wrote: > Maybe it is doable to sleep for a millisecond less than computed and achieve > the > targeted framerate with the loop. Could you try this patch : cvs -z4 -q diff -u main.cxx (in directory I:\FlightGear\cvs\FlightGear\src\Main\) Index: main.cxx =

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting "Curtis L. Olson" : > Time out here! > > There are two reasons two throttle frame rate. > > 1. Conserve CPU time and leave more cpu time for other tasks. Using > sleep() calls you can put FG asleep for a short time if it gets done > drawing a frame early, leaving those cycles for other ta

[Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.193,1.194

2005-03-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Time out here! There are two reasons two throttle frame rate. 1. Conserve CPU time and leave more cpu time for other tasks. Using sleep() calls you can put FG asleep for a short time if it gets done drawing a frame early, leaving those cycles for other tasks. 2. Accurately control frame rate.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Build on Cygwin

2004-12-31 Thread John Wojnaroski
- Original Message - From: "Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FlightGear developers discussions" Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 8:09 AM Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Build on Cygwin > attached find my home grown Makefile > > to use copy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Build on Cygwin

2004-12-31 Thread Martin Spott
"John Wojnaroski" wrote: > Any hints, info, suggestions on fixing the problem... I think there's already a working OpenAL package here: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de:/FlightGear/Win32/openal_cyg.tgz Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! ---

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Build on Cygwin

2004-12-31 Thread Norman Vine
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John > Wojnaroski > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 10:49 AM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Build on Cygwin > > > Hi, > > Could not find any info on the OpenAL website regards building the libraries &

[Flightgear-devel] CVS Build on Cygwin

2004-12-31 Thread John Wojnaroski
Hi, Could not find any info on the OpenAL website regards building the libraries on Cygwin. So tried the linux build. Well, it built, but thinking the install is suspect and Simgear complains as well. The headers are in /usr/local/include and the .a library is in /usr/local/lib along with a .dll f

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS - Problem compiling under Cygwin

2004-12-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote: > This morning I updated FGFS cvs and tried to compile under Cygwin - it > failed with > > configure: creating ./config.status > config.status: creating \ > .infig.status: error: cannot find input file: \ > > This evening I downloaded the whole file system to a new directory - same

[Flightgear-devel] CVS - Problem compiling under Cygwin

2004-12-21 Thread Vivian Meazza
This morning I updated FGFS cvs and tried to compile under Cygwin - it failed with configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating \ .infig.status: error: cannot find input file: \ This evening I downloaded the whole file system to a new directory - same result. There are no other o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Error?

2004-12-17 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:35:24 -0800 John Wojnaroski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That was it. The other modules explicitly call out the include directive and ifdef, but they appear to be excluded in the JSBSim files ? seems like something is missing/mis-set on my system , if others are not having

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Error?

2004-12-17 Thread John Wojnaroski
04 11:33 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Error? Hi, I may have posted this late last night, but seems to have been lost. If a duplicate post, my apologies Compiling the CVS pre-release error in FGNozzle.cxx complaining about snprintf as implicit declara

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Error?

2004-12-17 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:49:56 -0600 "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe Erik just synced the flightgear tree up with the latest JSBsim > > cvs, so there could be some portability issue that has crept in. I > haven't had a chance to compile the latest cvs commits myself. It

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Error?

2004-12-17 Thread Norman Vine
pers discussions > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Error? > > > Hi, > > I may have posted this late last night, but seems to have been lost. If > a duplicate post, my apologies > > Compiling the CVS pre-release > > error in FGNozzle.cxx complaining about snprintf as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Error?

2004-12-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Wojnaroski wrote: Hi, I may have posted this late last night, but seems to have been lost. If a duplicate post, my apologies Compiling the CVS pre-release error in FGNozzle.cxx complaining about snprintf as implicit declaration at line #74 Currently running 0.9.5 Did I miss something skipp

[Flightgear-devel] CVS Error?

2004-12-17 Thread John Wojnaroski
Hi, I may have posted this late last night, but seems to have been lost. If a duplicate post, my apologies Compiling the CVS pre-release error in FGNozzle.cxx complaining about snprintf as implicit declaration at line #74 Currently running 0.9.5 Did I miss something skipping over 0.9.6? Regards

[Flightgear-devel] CVS Build error

2004-12-16 Thread John Wojnaroski
Hi, Building CVs pre-release: >>> FGNozzle.cpp:74: implicit declaration of function 'int JSBSim::snprintf(...)' what's missing? library? upgrade compiler? still running with 2.95.4 Moving up from 0.9.5 which works fine, skipped 0.9.6. Did I miss something that happened in 0.9.6? Regards

[Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/737/737-set.xml -- odd change, starts with empty tanks now.

2004-12-15 Thread Chris Metzler
Hi. data/Aircraft/737/737-set.xml was changed from v1.5 to v1.6 in an effort to get a first shot at contrails working. However, it also changed the starting fuel in the fuel tanks from: ! 1540 ! 1540 ! 0 to !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS and file moves

2004-12-09 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Donnerstag 09 Dezember 2004 00:51, Jon S Berndt wrote: > Is there a clean way to move files in a CVS repository from one > directory to another for a reorganization? Only by modifying the repository files itself. But you *need* to know what you are doing. What do you want to move? Greeti

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS and file moves

2004-12-09 Thread Jon Berndt
] Behalf Of David > Megginson > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:01 AM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS and file moves > > > On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:32:46 +0100, Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS and file moves

2004-12-09 Thread David Megginson
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:32:46 +0100, Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a clean way to move files in a CVS repository from one > > directory to another for a reorganization? > > No, that is one of the shortcomings of CVS. The only way is deleting it > and adding it at the new loca

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS and file moves

2004-12-09 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon S Berndt wrote: Is there a clean way to move files in a CVS repository from one directory to another for a reorganization? No, that is one of the shortcomings of CVS. The only way is deleting it and adding it at the new location. Erik ___ Flightgea

[Flightgear-devel] CVS and file moves

2004-12-08 Thread Jon S Berndt
Is there a clean way to move files in a CVS repository from one directory to another for a reorganization? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963ba

[Flightgear-devel] cvs tools

2004-12-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
KDE's development module kdesdk contains lots of useful cvs utility scripts. I extracted those also useful for fgfs developers and put them here: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/cvstools.tar.gz (16 kB) I very often use the first five of the following list. ($HOME/bin/cvs is actually a link to col

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Instrumentation mag_compass.cxx, 1.6, 1.7

2004-11-07 Thread David Megginson
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 01:41:18 +0100, Roy Vegard Ovesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought (or rather hoped) that preferences.xml, *-set.xml or command line > would set properties after the source code did. IIRC I added this to most > instrumentation modules and system modules, so that has to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Instrumentation mag_compass.cxx, 1.6, 1.7

2004-11-07 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Monday 08 November 2004 00:22, David Megginson wrote: > If the source code modules force the property to true, it will > override any settings provided by the user at startup or in a > configuration file. I see. > It needs to be possible to start FlightGear with > the mag compass U/S for some

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