Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-11 Thread Martin Spott
I just got to know the website of this tool: http://users.pandora.be/ceppe/projects/fgkicker.html I think it's worth being mentioned on the related websites section, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-10 Thread Martin Spott
jj wrote: I'd surely like to see an Observatory bulding (such as mine, see http://kingmont.com and ftp://kingmont.com for pictures of it). We have the model in the database for some days - does anyone bother refining a bit ? Please look here for a thumbnail:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-07 Thread Martin Spott
jj wrote: I'd surely like to see an Observatory bulding (such as mine, see http://kingmont.com and ftp://kingmont.com for pictures of it). The Tower looks not _that_ realistic but still pretty nice in FlightGear - nevertheless I definitely think that we need a batch-able tool to determine

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-04 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
John wrote: Regarding POI files - providing we can sort out the licensing implications I'm happy to write an import script to add them to the database in bulk. Ok John, I will try contacting some of the authors of those POI files and ask them permission to use them in this way. I will let

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I made just this observatory model for him about a year back or so: FlightGear/data/Models/Structures/observatory.* I'll get this into the database. Do you have a screenshot (320x240) ? No, I've never had it included in the scenery myself. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-03 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
Erik wrote: I made just this observatory model for him about a year back or so: FlightGear/data/Models/Structures/observatory.* Gosh, I already offered JJ to build the observatory myself but as I see the model you made is really good. It just needs to be placed in the scenery :-) Anyway,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Roberto Inzerillo wrote: Gosh, I already offered JJ to build the observatory myself but as I see the model you made is really good. It just needs to be placed in the scenery :-) Anyway, I'd suggest to bring down the observatory.rgb coulour depth, it's 24bit but it needs ver few colours so the file

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Thursday 03 March 2005 11:49: Roberto Inzerillo wrote: Anyway, I'd suggest to bring down the observatory.rgb coulour depth, it's 24bit but it needs ver few colours so the file would be smaller (42603 bytes for a 2bit/px image is too much :-) You're absolutely right, not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-03 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
Melchior wrote: This file isn't that big that it would save much disk space, but anyway: -rw-r- 1 m m 42603 Mar 3 12:15 observatory.rgb -rw-r- 1 m m 5120 Mar 3 12:16 observatory-bwa.rgb Both versions contain the exact same image information. The first one is in cvs, the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Roberto Inzerillo -- Thursday 03 March 2005 14:10: Of course Melchior, correcting this single case will not change any FGFS performance at all and disk space is so cheap that the overhead of those 37483 bytes costs around 0,00025 Euro Cents today. Yes. Disk space isn't expensive these days.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
jj wrote: I'd surely like to see an Observatory bulding (such as mine, see http://kingmont.com and ftp://kingmont.com for pictures of it). I got a nice reply after trying to contact you via private EMail: - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mail01.foothill.net.:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-03 Thread Jon Stockill
Curtis L. Olson wrote: jj wrote: I'd surely like to see an Observatory bulding (such as mine, see http://kingmont.com and ftp://kingmont.com for pictures of it). Jim, if you send the coordinates of your house to Jon Stockill, he can place a grain silo there in the object database. The silo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't recall ever seeing that model, or anythng referring to it! In any case, please accept my (belated) thanks for doing it!~ jj On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Erik Hofman wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: jj wrote: I'd surely like to see an Observatory bulding (such as mine, see

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall ever seeing that model, or anythng referring to it! In any case, please accept my (belated) thanks for doing it!~ So, do you have accurate coordinates for this building ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-02 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: True. You force me to become a bit more specific: [...] Your intention is clear, it's just that I don't share everyting of it. [...] I'm worried about *static* objects (as in OBJECT_STATIC) that consume 300kB each, and are only used *once* in the whole world (which by

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Wednesday 02 March 2005 10:46: Your intention is clear, it's just that I don't share everyting of it. ... and you don't need to. Just keep the number of 512x512 textures as low as possible, especially for objects with reduced importance. Not everyone has a fast and cheap

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-02 Thread Oliver C.
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 11:14, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Martin Spott -- Wednesday 02 March 2005 10:46: Your intention is clear, it's just that I don't share everyting of it. ... and you don't need to. Just keep the number of 512x512 textures as low as possible, especially for objects with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-02 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Oliver C. : On Wednesday 02 March 2005 11:14, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Martin Spott -- Wednesday 02 March 2005 10:46: Your intention is clear, it's just that I don't share everyting of it. ... and you don't need to. Just keep the number of 512x512 textures as low as possible,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-02 Thread Curtis L. Olson
jj wrote: I'd surely like to see an Observatory bulding (such as mine, see http://kingmont.com and ftp://kingmont.com for pictures of it). Jim, if you send the coordinates of your house to Jon Stockill, he can place a grain silo there in the object database. The silo should match your house

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-02 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: jj wrote: I'd surely like to see an Observatory bulding (such as mine, see http://kingmont.com and ftp://kingmont.com for pictures of it). Jim, if you send the coordinates of your house to Jon Stockill, he can place a grain silo there in the object database. The silo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-02 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: I made just this observatory model for him about a year back or so: FlightGear/data/Models/Structures/observatory.* I'll get this into the database. Do you have a screenshot (320x240) ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery populating?

2005-03-01 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tuesday 01 March 2005 18:39: * * Roberto Inzerillo -- Tuesday 01 March 2005 17:16: I am starting to build some 3d models of the most common gas stations and hotels around my city. Please consider contributing them to the database. Yes. But please concentrate on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery populating?

2005-03-01 Thread cmetzler
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tuesday 01 March 2005 18:39: Please consider contributing them to the database. Yes. But please concentrate on *landmarks*: Buildings and structures you actually see from an aircraft. Things that help with orientation and allow to recognize unique locations. Try

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-01 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Yes. But please concentrate on *landmarks*: Buildings and structures you actually see from an aircraft. Things that help with orientation and allow to recognize unique locations. Correct, but don't limit to landmarks only. Several remarkable/unique buildings alias eye

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Anyone using TomTom POI files for scenery

2005-03-01 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Tuesday 01 March 2005 23:56: Melchior FRANZ wrote: Yes. But please concentrate on *landmarks*: Buildings and structures you actually see from an aircraft. Things that help with orientation and allow to recognize unique locations. Correct, but don't limit to landmarks