> Thanks!
>
> Coincidently, earlier today I was actually thinking about
> revisiting the model
> to fix a couple things...learned a few tricks in the last year.
> Originally I
> started with an msfs model that was donated, but ended up
> replacing everything
> except maybe Orville's face text
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On the main flightgear page there is a screen shot of our rendition of
> the original 1903 Wright Flyer:
>
> http://www.flightgear.org/images/flyer.jpg
>
> I just ran across the following image of the real thing:
>
> http://www.first-to-fly.
On the main flightgear page there is a screen shot of our rendition of
the original 1903 Wright Flyer:
http://www.flightgear.org/images/flyer.jpg
I just ran across the following image of the real thing:
http://www.first-to-fly.com/History%20Images/1903_Flyer_in_SI.GIF
After careful stud
At 11/9/02, you wrote:
Progress has been slow, mostly because of real work getting in the way, but
the Wright Flyer is getting much closer to completion.
Most of the detail and animation is done. Here's a shot from the front with
the elevator mechanism tilted up for initial ascent.:
http://www.
It's looking really good!
On the aero side, I have few tweaks that I want to make before it's
"announced" in whatever fashion. It should not take me too much longer to
get to that.
As for the elevator animation, I have use +-20 deg deflection on my model,
but from pictures it looks like more
It's looking good! (I look forward to flying or crashing it as the case
may be).
Chris
On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 01:41, Jim Wilson wrote:
> Progress has been slow, mostly because of real work getting in the way, but
> the Wright Flyer is getting much closer to completion.
>
> Most of the detail a
Progress has been slow, mostly because of real work getting in the way, but
the Wright Flyer is getting much closer to completion.
Most of the detail and animation is done. Here's a shot from the front with
the elevator mechanism tilted up for initial ascent.:
http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/wr
Very interesting, but from the photos there seems to be much more movement
than that. Are you sure you are scaled correctly? Also remember that
Orville claims the leading edges stayed parallel (although I suppose at 0.8mm
it'd be hard to tell).
Best,
Jim
Marcel Wittebrood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jim Wilson writes:
> > I was actualyl joking, but now you come to mention it, it probably would
> > have been quite handy for them keeping the wing level :-)
>
> I know, so was I ;-) They did have some "instrumentation" though.
> Here's an annotation from Orville's book:
Just for the record
Jon Stockill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Jim Wilson wrote:
>
> > Hmmm... I did a google on "spirit level wright flyer" and nothing came up.
> > Any idea what it looks like?
>
> I was actualyl joking, but now you come to mention it, it probably would
> have been quite handy f
Norman Vine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Jim Wilson writes:
> > Hmmm... I did a google on "spirit level wright flyer" and nothing came up.
> > Any idea what it looks like?
>
> Probably like one < oops two > of these
> one aligned with the wing and one aligned with the body
> http://www.stanleylond
Martin Spott writes:
> > The UIUC folks did a very good job on the flight dynamics. My gut
> > feeling is that this is probably very close in terms of performance to
> > the original.
>
> Yep, you have no chance to gain terrain with '--random-wind' enabled ;-)
I'll grant that crosswind la
Jon Stockill wrote:
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Jim Wilson wrote:
Hmmm... I did a google on "spirit level wright flyer" and nothing came up.
Any idea what it looks like?
A glass of brandy?
I was actualyl joking, but now you come to mention it, it probably would
have been quite handy for them keepi
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, John Check wrote:
> You're right, let's go analog. Sundial and a plumb bob ;D
I think you'd have problems setting your sundial from the sun compass, or
the sun compass from the sundial, or oh dear
I'd suggest damping the plumb bob too - a large water tank should do.
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 21:31:08 +0100 (BST),
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Jim Wilson wrote:
>
> > Hmmm... I did a google on "spirit level wright flyer" and nothing
> > came up. Any idea what it looks like?
>
> I was actualyl joking,
> The UIUC folks did a very good job on the flight dynamics. My gut
> feeling is that this is probably very close in terms of performance to
> the original.
Yep, you have no chance to gain terrain with '--random-wind' enabled ;-)
Martin.
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On Thursday 17 October 2002 3:50 pm, Jim Wilson wrote:
> Jon Stockill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, John Check wrote:
> > > Hahah, a GC for that would be an hour glass
> >
> > and a spirit level.
>
> Hmmm... I did a google on "spirit level wright flyer" and nothing came up.
> A
Jim Wilson writes:
> Hmmm... I did a google on "spirit level wright flyer" and nothing came up.
> Any idea what it looks like?
Probably like one < oops two > of these
one aligned with the wing and one aligned with the body
http://www.stanleylondon.com/inclinometer.htm
Norman
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On Thursday 17 October 2002 3:46 pm, Jim Wilson wrote:
> John Check <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Thursday 17 October 2002 10:34 am, Jim Wilson wrote:
> > > "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > > Hehe, if you start out with a fairly stable approach and are pretty
> > > > close alrea
John Check <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thursday 17 October 2002 10:34 am, Jim Wilson wrote:
> > "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > Hehe, if you start out with a fairly stable approach and are pretty
> > > close already, the autopilot seems to hold the Wright Flyer right on
> > >
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Jim Wilson wrote:
> Hmmm... I did a google on "spirit level wright flyer" and nothing came up.
> Any idea what it looks like?
I was actualyl joking, but now you come to mention it, it probably would
have been quite handy for them keeping the wing level :-)
--
Jon Stockill
[
Jon Stockill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, John Check wrote:
>
> > Hahah, a GC for that would be an hour glass
>
> and a spirit level.
Hmmm... I did a google on "spirit level wright flyer" and nothing came up.
Any idea what it looks like?
Best,
Jim
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On Thursday 17 October 2002 2:43 pm, Jon Stockill wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, John Check wrote:
> > Hahah, a GC for that would be an hour glass
>
> and a spirit level.
Thanks, I knew there had to be another peice.
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On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, John Check wrote:
> Hahah, a GC for that would be an hour glass
and a spirit level.
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On Thursday 17 October 2002 10:34 am, Jim Wilson wrote:
> "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Hehe, if you start out with a fairly stable approach and are pretty
> > close already, the autopilot seems to hold the Wright Flyer right on
> > the glide slope. ATC was complaining a bit abou
Jim Wilson writes:
> "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Hehe, if you start out with a fairly stable approach and are pretty
> > close already, the autopilot seems to hold the Wright Flyer right on
> > the glide slope. ATC was complaining a bit about my 33 kt. (full
> > throttle) ap
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hehe, if you start out with a fairly stable approach and are pretty
> close already, the autopilot seems to hold the Wright Flyer right on
> the glide slope. ATC was complaining a bit about my 33 kt. (full
> throttle) approach speed though ...
>
Hmm
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Jim Wilson writes:
>
> > Thanks. It's getting there. I'm still trying to figure out from Orville's
> > description how the elevator mecahnism works (for animation). Might need to
> > go down to Owl's head again to take a another look at their repl
Hehe, if you start out with a fairly stable approach and are pretty
close already, the autopilot seems to hold the Wright Flyer right on
the glide slope. ATC was complaining a bit about my 33 kt. (full
throttle) approach speed though ...
Curt.
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Jim Wilson writes:
> Thanks. It's getting there. I'm still trying to figure out from Orville's
> description how the elevator mecahnism works (for animation). Might need to
> go down to Owl's head again to take a another look at their replica. Still
> thinking about wing warping... (hints
Marcel Wittebrood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Dear Jim,
>
> you state that "With the 1903 they trussed it all up so that only the
trailing edges warped, making it even more aileron like."
>
> We also have the smithsonian museum drawings from the 1903 flyer. The
> inboard wing is trussed up but
Dear
Jim,
you state
that "With the 1903 they
trussed it all up so that only the trailing edges warped, making it even
more aileron like."
We also
have the smithsonian museum drawings from the 1903 flyer. The inboard wing is
trussed up but the outboard wing does not have any truss cables a
Jim Wilson writes:
> David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Curtis L. Olson writes:
> >
> > > Your Wright flyer model is really starting to look sharp! Good
> > > work. :-)
> >
> > It looks great -- this is the first time I've tried it. With the
> > mouse, at least, it's also quite e
Michael Selig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> At 10/16/02, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> >Jim,
> >
> >Your Wright flyer model is really starting to look sharp! Good
> >work. :-)
> >
> >People need to check this out if they haven't already:
> >
> > fgfs --aircraft=wrightFlyer1903-v1-nl-uiuc
>
> The 19
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> > Your Wright flyer model is really starting to look sharp! Good
> > work. :-)
>
> It looks great -- this is the first time I've tried it. With the
> mouse, at least, it's also quite easy to fly -- I had to work hard to
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Jim,
>
> Your Wright flyer model is really starting to look sharp! Good
> work. :-)
>
Thanks! I was going to do a few more things before "announcing" it :-)
I'm not sure if anyone has tried the java wright brothers sim that's floating
around t
At 10/16/02, David Megginson wrote:
>Curtis L. Olson writes:
>
> > Your Wright flyer model is really starting to look sharp! Good
> > work. :-)
>
>It looks great -- this is the first time I've tried it. With the
>mouse, at least, it's also quite easy to fly -- I had to work hard to
>make it ov
At 10/16/02, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
>Jim,
>
>Your Wright flyer model is really starting to look sharp! Good
>work. :-)
>
>People need to check this out if they haven't already:
>
> fgfs --aircraft=wrightFlyer1903-v1-nl-uiuc
The 1903 Wright Flyer has rudder coupled to wing warping. For this
Curtis L. Olson writes:
> Your Wright flyer model is really starting to look sharp! Good
> work. :-)
It looks great -- this is the first time I've tried it. With the
mouse, at least, it's also quite easy to fly -- I had to work hard to
make it overrotate.
Jim: you need to make sure that the
Jim,
Your Wright flyer model is really starting to look sharp! Good
work. :-)
People need to check this out if they haven't already:
fgfs --aircraft=wrightFlyer1903-v1-nl-uiuc
You definitely need to stay on your toes (so to speak) to keep this
thing in the air. The lack of lateral stabil
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