Dutch-roll testing is supposed to be, hum, interesting too...
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Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote:
You know, many people get wrong ideas about test flights. Most of the
time, it's about keeping most parameters as stable as possible, while
watching and noting down the rest of them. The flights during which you
explore the corners of the flight envelope are not all that
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 01:29:56 +0200,
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> Major A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >
> > > My wife and I were flying Vangaurd airlines (now defunct?) into
> >
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> > My wife and I were flying Vangaurd airlines (now defunct?) into
> > Kansas city (on a 737) a couple years ago and on *very short* final
> > the pilot made us all temporarily weightless to
> My wife and I were flying Vangaurd airlines (now defunct?) into Kansas
> city (on a 737) a couple years ago and on *very short* final the pilot
> made us all temporarily weightless to get back down on the glide slope
> quickly. Recent x-rays show that my wife's fingernails are still
> embeded i
> Last thing on the cockpit voice recorder:
>
> Captain: oh look, my gyro has tumbled.
> CoPilot: look, my gyro has tumbled too.
>
> Or the ever popular:
>
> "Hey, watch this!"
Last thing on the A320's CVR: "Hey, what's this bloody plane doing
again?"
Andras
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Major A writes:
> Reminds me of my flight into Bologna last year in one of go's (now
> Easyjet) latest 737-300s -- there was a period of about 10 minutes
> when we never flew straight. But they eventually managed to get the
> thing aligned, and we did fly the last couple miles in a straight
> line.
You know, many people get wrong ideas about test flights. Most of the
time, it's about keeping most parameters as stable as possible, while
watching and noting down the rest of them. The flights during which you
explore the corners of the flight envelope are not all that common. Or
it's just becaus
Actually, I've flown on Aeroflot on several occasions, including domestic
lines (Moscow-Novosibirsk), and the flight has always been OK. What I
would say is that these pilots probably have a lot of merit trying to fly
these aircraft when the company doesn't always have enough money for
decent maint
> I once witnessed an Aeroflot jet on approach to KSEA that had an
> alignment problem actually horse the jet into a 45 degree bank, haul it
> about a quarter mile to the west to get on the right approach. Freaked me
> out on the ground just watching it. I don't want to think about what
> those
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:27:39 -0700 (PDT)
> Gene Buckle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >If he flies for Aeroflot, they may not notice the
> >difference. *gd&r*
>
>
> You guys are scaring me. ;-)
>
You've obviously never seen an Aeroflot flight before. :)
When they first started flying into KS
> I am trying to animate the rudder but it seems that the property
> /surface-positions/rudder-pos-norm stay at 0.
My mistake. The FCS didn't have an aerosurface-scale for the rudder. In
fact, none of my models have it, so I'll have to add it to them all (thanks
for the catch). Here's the co
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:27:39 -0700 (PDT)
Gene Buckle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If he flies for Aeroflot, they may not notice the
difference. *gd&r*
You guys are scaring me. ;-)
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Gene Buckle wrote:
Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote:
Very good idea ! As it's one of the planes I fly, I might get hold of some
data too, and perform a few tests in flight...
Are you sure your passengers are going to like it when you do some
flight tests?
If he flies for Aeroflot, they may not notice the
> Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote:
> > Very good idea ! As it's one of the planes I fly, I might get hold of some
> > data too, and perform a few tests in flight...
>
> Are you sure your passengers are going to like it when you do some
> flight tests?
>
> Erik
If he flies for Aeroflot, they may not not
Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote:
Very good idea ! As it's one of the planes I fly, I might get hold of some
data too, and perform a few tests in flight...
Are you sure your passengers are going to like it when you do some
flight tests?
Erik
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Very good idea ! As it's one of the planes I fly, I might get hold of some
data too, and perform a few tests in flight...
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David Culp wrote :
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> > just a note to say that I am in the process of modelling an
> > Airbus A320 :
> > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/a320-fb-fgsd.png
Here is another one, with your flight model :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/a320-fb-fgfs-1.png
> Beautiful model Fred!
> Somehow, using combinations of the above methods, I've managed to get
> airplanes running with a fuel load that is randomly empty. And a couple
> times I've managed to get a fuel load approaching infinity. Users
normally
> only notice when the FGSimTurbine reacts badly to a zero-fuel condition
David Culp wrote:
It looks like two bugs, which were discussed a month or two ago, although I
don't know if they were reported via an official channel, partly because I'm
insecure enough in my coding ability to believe the problem is probably at my
end in every case.
Can you test if this file f
Jon Berndt wrote:
Actually, the better solution would be for us to fix it. Can you remind me
when this bug was reported (if you recall)? I'll try to have a look at it
in the very near future.
This is probably the conflicting initial fuel load problem between
FlightGear and JSBSim. It looks like
> Actually, the better solution would be for us to fix it. Can you remind me
> when this bug was reported (if you recall)? I'll try to have a look at it
> in the very near future.
It looks like two bugs, which were discussed a month or two ago, although I
don't know if they were reported via an
David Culp wrote :
> Fred wrote:
> > I have another problem: the model seems underpower and it is not able to
> > take of with full throttle on the KSFO runway. It stall under 160knt and
> > it arrives at the end of the runway at 175knt.
>
> I've been having a problem with the JSBSim airplanes som
> As an interim solution, here is a turbine module that no longer checks if
> there is any fuel in the tanks. This turbine is always on, regardless of
> fuel state. The module goes in FlightGear-0.9.2/src/FDM/JSBSim/
>
> http://home.attbi.com/~davidculp2/FGSimTurbine.cpp
>
> I'll see if the JSBSi
Fred wrote:
> I have another problem: the model seems underpower and it is not able to
> take of with full throttle on the KSFO runway. It stall under 160knt and
> it arrives at the end of the runway at 175knt.
I've been having a problem with the JSBSim airplanes sometimes
have no fuel in them, ev
Erik Hofman wrote:
> >>>just a note to say that I am in the process of modelling an
> >>>Airbus A320 :
> >>>http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/a320-fb-fgsd.png
> >
> >
> > Here is another one, with your flight model :
> > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/a320-fb-fgfs-1.png
>
> V
Frederic Bouvier wrote:
David Culp wrote :
just a note to say that I am in the process of modelling an
Airbus A320 :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/a320-fb-fgsd.png
Here is another one, with your flight model :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/a320-fb-fgfs-1.png
Very nice!
David Culp wrote:
>
> > I am trying to animate the rudder but it seems that the property
> > /surface-positions/rudder-pos-norm stay at 0.
>
> My mistake. The FCS didn't have an aerosurface-scale for the rudder. In
> fact, none of my models have it, so I'll have to add it to them all
(thanks
> fo
Thank you Dave. I now have to begin the animation stuff.
I will try all these files as soon as I can.
-Fred
David Culp wrote:
> just a note to say that I am in the process of modelling an
> Airbus A320 :
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/a320-fb-fgsd.png
Beautiful model Fred! Here a
> just a note to say that I am in the process of modelling an
> Airbus A320 :
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/a320-fb-fgsd.png
Beautiful model Fred! Here are some files that will get it into the air. The
aero model uses A320-200 metrics with 737-300 aerodynamics and flight control
> What about fly-by-wire ? How can it be taken into account ?
I'll try to work up an alpha limiter and bank limiter using JSBSim's FCS.
Dave Culp
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It will be easy to convert the 737 model to an A320.
I'll send you one.
What about fly-by-wire ? How can it be taken into account
?
Since David is making a JSBSim version of the A-310, you
can use the JSBSim flight
> It will be easy to convert the 737 model to an A320. I'll send you one.
What about fly-by-wire ? How can it be taken into account ?
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> If someone wants to contribute a flight model, go ahead.
It will be easy to convert the 737 model to an A320. I'll send you one.
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Frederic Bouvier wrote:
Hello,
just a note to say that I am in the process of modeling an
Airbus A320 :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/a320-fb-fgsd.png
No animation and gear yet but it is progressing.
I am using Blender and GIMP, and I have to say that so far,
is has been quite easy.
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