Re: [Flightgear-devel] *** SPAM *** Re: Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: > This is a tough one - I expect you can ask 4 developers and get 5 opinions. > Here - ambient is much too dark, while specular is about right. But the > visibility also seems to have far too much influence. Indeed tough, especially since we still do have models with a wide

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *** SPAM *** Re: Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Heiko Schulz wrote: > I'm against this code- I can't really understand what's the intention of this > code is- destroying glossiness? Only when it's foggy. On bright clear days it will shine like before. The real intent is to make it a bit more realistic. > I would like to see a change of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *** SPAM *** Re: Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Maybe I missed something but the visibility is not related to the distance > between the viewer and the object. As far as I understand Erik's intention, > there should be no glossiness in fog or inside a cloud, so setting glossiness > to 0 when visibility is 0 makes s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- "Melchior FRANZ" a écrit : > visibility 0m -> specular * 0 > visibility 22.5km -> specular * 0.5 > visibility 45km -> specular * 1 > > > Why would a visibility of 22 km only give me half the specularity > of a visibility of 45 km? On an object that stands a few meters > in f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *** SPAM *** Re: Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread syd adams
No I'm kidding . I noticed a definite improvement in the dawn and dusk lighting . I haven't noticed if there was an improvement in the mountian contrast , it always seemed too washed out to me , but I'll do more test flying tonight and check.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior > This change doesn't look right to me: > > +float av = thesky->get_visibility(); > +if (av > 45000.0) av = 45000.0; > +float visibility_norm = av/45000.0; > > -float specular = _specular_tbl->interpolate( deg ); > +float specular = _specular_tbl->interpola

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Heiko Schulz
I'm against this code- I can't really understand what's the intention of this code is- destroying glossiness? I would like to see a change of the colors depending of the clouds setting- I think I can remember that the color changed with the weather settings in plib-versions. Example: less glo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Melchior FRANZ
This change doesn't look right to me: +float av = thesky->get_visibility(); +if (av > 45000.0) av = 45000.0; +float visibility_norm = av/45000.0; -float specular = _specular_tbl->interpolate( deg ); +float specular = _specular_tbl->interpolate( deg ) * visibility_nor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Tuesday 31 March 2009: > This means that, form now on, when testing the color components of an > aircraft it is best to switch to 'fair weather' and play with visibility > a bit (z to increase it, and shift+z to decrease it). Especially playing with visibility makes me believe th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *** SPAM *** Re: Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Erik Hofman
syd adams wrote: > You mean I have to start over fixing my models ? I've only made it to > "C" ! ;) Nope, not as far as I know (and i was hoping to prevent that). If you think it´s incorrect now let me know and I´ ll try to fix it in the code. Erik >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread syd adams
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Erik Hofman wrote: > > Hi, > > I have changed the specular and ambient behavior of FlightGear a bit by > reducing specular highlight at decreased visibility and by increasing > ambient colors at decreased visibility. > > This means that, form now on, when testing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] crash in FlightGear\src\Airports\dynamics.cxx , patch included

2009-03-31 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Durk, Durk Talsma schrieb am 31.03.2009 07:12: > > Thanks for the update. Did you install additional traffic at KSFO, or > copy the old demo over? > Not by intention. I just made a diff on the traffic folder and found no diff. Can traffic be in an other file? Or can a MP aircraft causing to c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Remove right access to CVS FlightGear/data

2009-03-31 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Tuesday 31 March 2009: > I do accept to be the bad boy of the story , That's not what I said or meant to say. But what you are also not is an innocent victim of bad boys. As far as I know, nobody wanted or wants to get rid of you. (But then again, I only read the French forum occ

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Remove right access to CVS FlightGear/data

2009-03-31 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 31 mars 2009, Melchior FRANZ wrote: SNIP > > m. > No comments. Sure i am wrong everywhere :) :) :) big, very , very big laughing... I do accept to be the bad boy of the story , i don't mind about it, since that story has not any consequence , on the life of the world ( t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Remove right access to CVS FlightGear/data

2009-03-31 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Saturday 28 March 2009: > => it is the consequence of a lot of aggressives behaviour against > me ( not my work) coming mainly from the French side, like this, So it's not me, then? Great! (Yeah, "Franz" comes from Latin "franciscus" -- the French one, but that doesn't actually

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ./compile: another all-in-one compilation script

2009-03-31 Thread Brisa Francesco
Sébastien MARQUE ha scritto: > please let me know your suggestions/thoughts, and feel free to reuse > some ideas in it if you find them useful. > > eehhehe I will :-) >> look inside my script, it does it, both for cvs and svn without any >> password or login request. >> > Unfortunately I th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ./compile: another all-in-one compilation script

2009-03-31 Thread Sébastien MARQUE
Oh... nice! :D I haven't seen that... Thanks a lot guys for this hint! Csaba Halász a écrit : > 2009/3/31 Sébastien MARQUE : >>> look inside my script, it does it, both for cvs and svn without any >>> password or login request. >> Unfortunately I think it works on your system with >> download_and_

[Flightgear-devel] Scene ambient and specular color changes

2009-03-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Hi, I have changed the specular and ambient behavior of FlightGear a bit by reducing specular highlight at decreased visibility and by increasing ambient colors at decreased visibility. This means that, form now on, when testing the color components of an aircraft it is best to switch to 'fai

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Remove right access to CVS FlightGear/data

2009-03-31 Thread Stuart Buchanan
gerard robin wrote: > On lundi 30 mars 2009, George Patterson wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:34 AM, LeeE wrote: > > > > If the aircraft is going to be maintained ex-cvs but not maintained > > > within cvs, then retaining it within cvs just adds another > > > unmaintained aircraft to the li