Re: [Flightgear-devel] ADF / DME receivers, and ILS stations.

2009-06-21 Thread James Turner
On 20 Jun 2009, at 14:42, Martin Spott wrote: Yup - the DME element of an [ILS,VORTAC,VOR-DME,NDB-DME] is to be a separate entity in the 'nav.dat' file by definition, Okay, which leaves the other issue: ADF. Neither the generic adf.cxx nor kr87.cxx search ILS stations. Looking at this PDF:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ADF / DME receivers, and ILS stations.

2009-06-21 Thread William Earnest
James Turner wrote: On 20 Jun 2009, at 14:42, Martin Spott wrote: Yup - the DME element of an [ILS,VORTAC,VOR-DME,NDB-DME] is to be a separate entity in the 'nav.dat' file by definition, Okay, which leaves the other issue: ADF. Neither the generic adf.cxx nor kr87.cxx search ILS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ADF / DME receivers, and ILS stations.

2009-06-21 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: Okay, which leaves the other issue: ADF. Neither the generic adf.cxx nor kr87.cxx search ILS stations. Looking at this PDF: https://www.bendixking.com/servlet/com.honeywell.aes.utility.PDFDownLoadServlet?FileName=/static/brochures/pdf/kr87.pdf makes me think

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/MPCarrier help.xml, 1.2, 1.3

2009-06-21 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/MPCarrier In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv18340 Modified Files: help.xml Log Message: Update to reflect recent changes Please excuse my curiosity: Isn't the number of consecutive empty lines pretty

[Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread ovek
It seems that the license header of simgear/screen/texture.{cxx,hxx} does not have the same LGPL header as the rest of the sources. In fact, it says that the code is freely distributable, but not freely modifiable. Is this file really under an Open Source license? Could you clarify (at least for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi ? o...@arcticnet.no a écrit : It seems that the license header of simgear/screen/texture.{cxx,hxx} does not have the same LGPL header as the rest of the sources. In fact, it says that the code is freely distributable, but not freely modifiable. Is this file really under an Open Source

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread Tim Moore
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi ? o...@arcticnet.no a écrit : It seems that the license header of simgear/screen/texture.{cxx,hxx} does not have the same LGPL header as the rest of the sources. In fact, it says that the code is freely distributable, but not freely modifiable. Is this file

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 7:24 AM, o...@arcticnet.no wrote: It seems that the license header of simgear/screen/texture.{cxx,hxx} does not have the same LGPL header as the rest of the sources. In fact, it says that the code is freely distributable, but not freely modifiable. Is this file really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Tim Moore a écrit : Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi ? o...@arcticnet.no a écrit : It seems that the license header of simgear/screen/texture.{cxx,hxx} does not have the same LGPL header as the rest of the sources. In fact, it says that the code is freely distributable, but not freely

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread ovek
Curtis Olson skrev: Are we running on the assumption that we can only do what is expressly allowed? When it comes to someone else's copyright, it's not only an assumption. It's the law. And Debian is adamant about following it... so, yes. Thanks.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis Olson wrote: I don't see any thing in the license terms that states we cannot modify the code. Are we running on the assumption that we can only do what is expressly allowed? Perhaps Erik Hofman should address this. As I look at the code I see it's a full C++ class. But I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Looking at the code it is heavily modified in the mean time, although parts of the original texture loading code are still in place. Erik -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread ovek
I've tried to figure out the origin of that code, and it seems there's consensus that Kilgard's code really cannot be modified. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL_Utility_Toolkit Kilgard's GLUT library is no longer maintained, and its license did not permit the redistribution of modified

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 14:24 +0200, o...@arcticnet.no wrote: It seems that the license header of simgear/screen/texture.{cxx,hxx} does not have the same LGPL header as the rest of the sources. In fact, it says that the code is freely distributable, but not freely modifiable. Is this file really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SGIntersect.hxx / GCC question - disable multi-line comment warnings

2009-06-21 Thread James Turner
On 20 Jun 2009, at 12:12, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Better with that added spaces past the '\' ? Sadly it made no difference - I already tried that fix locally. James -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SGIntersect.hxx / GCC question - disable multi-line comment warnings

2009-06-21 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Sunday 21 June 2009 19:30:32 James Turner wrote: On 20 Jun 2009, at 12:12, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Better with that added spaces past the '\' ? Sadly it made no difference - I already tried that fix locally. Use a multi-line comment. /* and */, then the warning goes away. It can be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread ovek
Ron Jensen skrev: I think this 5 year old bug might help answer the question http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=131997 Hmm, thanks. I guess I can show them that, then, when I package simgear up again. Hopefully it's enough. I am not sure if texture.{cxx,hxx} qualifies as a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread ovek
o...@arcticnet.no skrev: Ron Jensen skrev: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glut/libglut3_3.7-25_all.deb Yes, but it's in the oldlibs section. No current package in Debian use it. Everything is linked against freeglut, which supersedes it. Upon further examination, I'll have to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread Curtis Olson
Can we just quote Mark Kilgard's comment in that thread that modification is fine? I like Debian and I ran their distribution on my machines for many years. I admire how carefully they follow through with these licensing issues ... but my word ... no wonder their package versions are 4 years

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread ovek
Curtis Olson skrev: Can we just quote Mark Kilgard's comment in that thread that modification is fine? That's what I plan to do for now. I like Debian and I ran their distribution on my machines for many years. I admire how carefully they follow through with these licensing issues ... but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:33 PM, wrote: ... [curt] no wonder their package versions are 4 years behind every other distribution. Oh, why is that? That was said mostly in jest. Maybe I should have said, by the time Debian finalizes a release, the kids who watched the pixar movie with the

[Flightgear-devel] Possible screen shot copyright infringement

2009-06-21 Thread Curtis Olson
I haven't had a chance to contact Butterfly Media myself, but perhaps someone here would be willing to pull lead on that? http://www.butterfly-media.co.uk/index.htm This weekend I was contacted by an ebay seller. I did a quick google search and found that his ebay ads had ripped off our

Re: [Flightgear-devel] License of simgear/screen/texture.cxx

2009-06-21 Thread Ron Jensen
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 03:30 +0200, o...@arcticnet.no wrote: o...@arcticnet.no skrev: Ron Jensen skrev: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glut/libglut3_3.7-25_all.deb Yes, but it's in the oldlibs section. No current package in Debian use it. Everything is linked against