Re: [Flightgear-devel] navradio

2009-09-10 Thread Ron Jensen
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 16:03 -0700, John Denker wrote: > 2) There is no doubt that there is frequency pairing for >collocated VOR/DME. The pairing scheme for DME/VOR, >DME/MLS, and DME/ILS/MLS are documented starting on >page 3-100 of ICAO Annex 10 Volume 1 "Aeronautical >Communica

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models

2009-09-10 Thread Ron Jensen
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 19:45 +0200, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday 06 September 2009 21:42:36 Ron Jensen wrote: > > Sometime recently MP Models silently became "solid." IMHO, this is a > > horrid state. Aircraft now "crash" when new aircraft appear at the same > > spawn site. > > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Wiki Error

2009-09-10 Thread Simon Hollier
Hi Pete, Thanks for reporting this. I've temporarily fixed this by removing the language links at the bottom. I'll look into fixing the root cause of this problem, however, we don't have the same setup as Wikipedia (one server per language) and a direct copy won't always work the same way. On

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models

2009-09-10 Thread AC001
AC001 wrote: > Just a thought. The glide slope tunnel appears on 28R. So I set my > startup to be 28L. > > pete > Oops forgot the link to this wiki page. http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/San_Francisco_International_Airport > George Patterson wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:21 AM,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models

2009-09-10 Thread AC001
Just a thought. The glide slope tunnel appears on 28R. So I set my startup to be 28L. pete George Patterson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Heiko Schulz wrote: > >> Hmmm... >> >> For a short time this might be helping but >> >> >> >>> I have disabled the MP Aircrafts colli

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Wiki Error

2009-09-10 Thread George Patterson
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:11 AM, AC001 wrote: > Not sure who the admin is for the wiki, so I thought I'm mail this list. > > This page http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Air_bagan > To help narrowing it down: It's appears to be only that page as I was able to login and browse some of the other

[Flightgear-devel] Wiki Error

2009-09-10 Thread AC001
Not sure who the admin is for the wiki, so I thought I'm mail this list. This page http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Air_bagan Shows this error Database error A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] navradio

2009-09-10 Thread syd adams
Sorry , I was not reading closely enough ... On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > syd adams wrote: > > > I know , it's wikipedia , but it gives a short explanation of the VOR > -DME > > pairing ... > > I think the pairing of a DME with a VOR is unchallenged. People > (including

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models

2009-09-10 Thread George Patterson
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hmmm... > > For a short time this might be helping but > > >>I have disabled the MP Aircrafts collisions with the rest of the world. > > ... but we also have a lot of AI aircrafts around and they don't announce > there incoming. That make

Re: [Flightgear-devel] navradio

2009-09-10 Thread Victhor Foster
OK, so I guess that was entirely my fault on not tuning the DME to the DME on the NDB-DME station. Blame Atlas for that! :D Sorry for starting such an OT discussion :P > On 09/10/09 14:11, willie wrote: > >>> I think the pairing of a DME with a VOR is unchallenged. People >>> (including me) are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] navradio

2009-09-10 Thread John Denker
On 09/10/09 14:11, willie wrote: >> I think the pairing of a DME with a VOR is unchallenged. People >> (including me) are doubtful about the pairing of a DME with an NDB, > Here's a real-world discussion showing that they really do exist. > http://www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-77933.html It

Re: [Flightgear-devel] navradio

2009-09-10 Thread willie
Martin Spott wrote: > syd adams wrote: > >> I know , it's wikipedia , but it gives a short explanation of the VOR -DME >> pairing ... > > I think the pairing of a DME with a VOR is unchallenged. People > (including me) are doubtful about the pairing of a DME with an NDB, > > Martin. Here's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Compiling newest CVS FlightGear/SimGear andgetting link errors

2009-09-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
You need to include some recently added files to your projects. FGGyro.cxx/hxx, AIGroundVehicle.cxx/hxx, SGText.cxx/hxx. The clue is in the errors! That might make at least some of the problems go away. HTH Vivian -Original Message- From: Randall Green [mailto:randall.gr...@wrig

Re: [Flightgear-devel] navradio

2009-09-10 Thread Martin Spott
syd adams wrote: > I know , it's wikipedia , but it gives a short explanation of the VOR -DME > pairing ... I think the pairing of a DME with a VOR is unchallenged. People (including me) are doubtful about the pairing of a DME with an NDB, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models

2009-09-10 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hmmm... For a short time this might be helping but >I have disabled the MP Aircrafts collisions with the rest of the world. ... but we also have a lot of AI aircrafts around and they don't announce there incoming. That makes it very realistic and a lot of fun, then now you really have to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patches for configure.ac/Makeifle.am in SG/FG

2009-09-10 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Hi, I've updated the patches. I tested these, with the code as of a few hours ago, on both Mac and ubuntu-9.04 on vmware, and these work fine on both (with or without --with-eventinput configure option). Now I can say it is safe to apply, so please commit these patches. Don't forget to run auto

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP Protocol - aircraft orientation

2009-09-10 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Monday 07 September 2009 15:06:56 Marco Lecora wrote: > Could someone help me with this issue please?Thank you in advance The position is the cartesian coordinate vector in the WGS84 earth centered coordinate system. And the orientation quaternion is that one that rotates a vector in ea

[Flightgear-devel] Compiling newest CVS FlightGear/SimGear and getting link errors

2009-09-10 Thread Randall Green
Hi all, I'm compiling the newest CVS versions of FlightGear/SimGear and I'm getting the following link errors: Linking fgviewer, after this warning: LINK : warning LNK4098: defaultlib 'LIBCMTD' conflicts with use of other libs; use /NODEFAULTLIB:library 4>simgear_d.lib(SGReaderWriterXML.obj) :

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strtof doesn't exist on windows

2009-09-10 Thread Curtis Olson
I'm out of the office at the moment but when I return I can change strtof() back to strtod(). I didn't realize that was missing in windows. Or if someone else beats me to it that's fine too. This fixes a precision issue for doubles when replaying ascii format files. -- Curt On Sep 10, 2009 1:5

[Flightgear-devel] strtof doesn't exist on windows

2009-09-10 Thread Nicolas Quijano
So in generic.cxx, at line 381, I suggest using *strtod* instead, since the value is cast to float anyway on the next line. I gather this change (separate case for float and double) is the fix for choppy replays ? Cheers, Nic -- Be Kind. Remember, everyone is fighting a hard battle. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models

2009-09-10 Thread Nicolas Quijano
Never mind, found the actual codeline, where the mask is set. Cheers, Nic On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Nicolas Quijano wrote: > Rest of the world ? That's not good if you mean it literally : no more > carrier landings, no more field landings, no more landing on building > tops... Surely, you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models

2009-09-10 Thread Nicolas Quijano
Rest of the world ? That's not good if you mean it literally : no more carrier landings, no more field landings, no more landing on building tops... Surely, you don't mean the rest of the world, do you ? Instead of enabling/disabling it in code, why the resistance at giving us a property to turn it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models

2009-09-10 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Sunday 06 September 2009 21:42:36 Ron Jensen wrote: > Sometime recently MP Models silently became "solid." IMHO, this is a > horrid state. Aircraft now "crash" when new aircraft appear at the same > spawn site. > > To say I am upset about this "feature" is an understatement. I feel I >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/math SGGeod.cxx, 1.1, 1.2 SGGeod.hxx, 1.10, 1.11 SGQuat.hxx, 1.16, 1.17 SGVec2.hxx, 1.7, 1.8 SGVec3.hxx, 1.20, 1.21 SGVec4.hxx, 1.14, 1.15

2009-09-10 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, Sorry for not reading the mails in time. But Yes, I introduced that problem and fixed it already. Sorry! Anyway the intention of these changes is to move all osg dependencies out of scenegraph neutral code like the math stuff. I now definitely know people who want to use that tool classes w

[Flightgear-devel] [patch] For Gerard's SR71-BlackBird

2009-09-10 Thread Anders Gidenstam
Hi all, Here is a patch to restore Gerard's SR71-BlackBird to (mostly) working condition after the recent rounds of JSBSim updates. http://pastebin.ca/1557510 Could someone apply it, as IIRC Gerard isn't maintaining it CVS anymore? (I hope I'm wrong, though) Cheers, Anders -- --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph

2009-09-10 Thread Csaba Halász
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Randall Green wrote: > These are the instructions for checking out CVS OSG that are given: > > cvs > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/openscenegraph > login > > cvs -z3 > -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsro

[Flightgear-devel] Error checking out CVS version of OpenSceneGraph

2009-09-10 Thread Randall Green
These are the instructions for checking out CVS OSG that are given: cvs -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/openscenegraph login cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonym...@openscenegraph.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/openscenegraph co -P modulename What is the modulename? I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sport-model nav-radio (was Re: GS sensitivity)

2009-09-10 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:37 AM, James Turner wrote: > > On 10 Sep 2009, at 11:15, James Turner wrote: > > > The last part I'm not totally sure about - it makes localizers > > *very* sensitive - maybe I've adapted the code incorrectly, but this > > doc: > > > > http://www.allstar.fiu.edu/aer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sport-model nav-radio (was Re: GS sensitivity)

2009-09-10 Thread James Turner
On 10 Sep 2009, at 11:15, James Turner wrote: > The last part I'm not totally sure about - it makes localizers > *very* sensitive - maybe I've adapted the code incorrectly, but this > doc: > > http://www.allstar.fiu.edu/aerojava/ILS.htm > > indicates that at 10nm, the beam should be app

[Flightgear-devel] Atmosphere patch from John Denker

2009-09-10 Thread Tim Moore
On 09/10/2009 01:00 AM, Tim Moore wrote: > so I'm not touching that. Instead, it looks like "Two-parameter physics-based > model of atmosphere up to 262,467 ft i.e. the top of the mesosphere. Correctly > exhibits the HALT phenomenon." would be awesome to have and is relatively > independent of th

[Flightgear-devel] Sport-model nav-radio (was Re: GS sensitivity)

2009-09-10 Thread James Turner
On 10 Sep 2009, at 00:00, Tim Moore wrote: There are a lot of changes to navradio.[ch]xx, but you and James are in heated discussion, so I'm not touching that. Since I'm now official maintainer of the nav-radio (it's a rare honour), and feel a bit more comfortable with the code, I had a go

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Little Ground Vehicle patch (for Vivian)

2009-09-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
Nic, Thanks for this. The reason that models wander into the air is that the height test is finding the model itself. The solution I have been using is to add: false to the model .xml file. This means that the Ground Vehicles still "see" buildings, but of co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GS sensitivity - especially for aircraft / panel developers

2009-09-10 Thread James Turner
On 9 Sep 2009, at 22:55, John Denker wrote: > If you really want to rip out the old outputs, in the > name of "internal cleanliness" or whatever, that can wait With apologies to Dave Perry, I think upon reflection (and converting some aircraft over myself), that waiting a bit longer here does