Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

I am happy to accept the privileges when/if I begin an aircraft project. I even have plans for that but then again those plans are already 2 years old with no progress :) No, currently I am happy with trying to convince the dev team to accept my small and sporadic contributions. And with git, I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Martin Spott wrote: Jari Häkkinen wrote: I support the split if only for the reason that aircraft maintainers will get commit rights to their private spheres in fg-land (if I understand things properly). With the previous monolithic fgdata only a selected group of people h

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

Jari Häkkinen wrote: > I support the split if only for the reason that aircraft maintainers > will get commit rights to their private spheres in fg-land (if I > understand things properly). With the previous monolithic fgdata only a > selected group of people had commit privileges. Maybe now,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 04:55:28PM -0400, Jacob Burbach wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > > Jacob Burbach wrote: > > > >> Seems like most people are just banging their heads against the wall > >> trying to make a new system the same as the old, which is counter > >> p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > Jacob Burbach wrote: > >> Seems like most people are just banging their heads against the wall >> trying to make a new system the same as the old, which is counter >> productive and unfortunate. > > I wonder by which justification you pretend

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

I understand there are a some cases where one might need all aircraft to perform some specific task, and when I said "unlikely ANYONE would" I could have spoken better. However for the vast majority of developers, contributors, and testers, I have to believe it is completely unnecessary or desired

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

Curtis Olson wrote: > We are committed to git, I'm not suggesting otherwise, but the entire binary > history of the data tree is pushing 10Gb. I'm not sure if we're talking about the same item, but the "bare" repository of the entire 'fgdata' in its current state should be at approx. 4 GByte or e

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On 2011-10-19 21.12, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > Another example: For the last release, we branched and tagged the > repositories and well defined states. This was OK for three repositories > (fg+sg+fgdata). Doing this manually for 300+ repos is a no and doing > this scripted calls for trouble. But is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

Jacob Burbach wrote: > Seems like most people are just banging their heads against the wall > trying to make a new system the same as the old, which is counter > productive and unfortunate. I wonder by which justification you pretend to speak for a group whose common understanding you never bothe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

Am 19.10.2011 20:45, schrieb Jacob Burbach: > Seems like most people are just banging their heads against the wall > trying to make a new system the same as the old, which is counter > productive and unfortunate. It is highly unlikely ANYONE needs every > single aircraft from git that they were pre

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jacob Burbach wrote: > Seems like most people are just banging their heads against the wall > trying to make a new system the same as the old, which is counter > productive and unfortunate. It is highly unlikely ANYONE needs every > single aircraft from git that t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

My main point (or thought) is just that if we are going to push forward with this split, then we need to go the whole way and make it work reasonably for everyone. The people pushing this and doing the initial work, can't just take it half way and then leave it because their personal concerns are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

Seems like most people are just banging their heads against the wall trying to make a new system the same as the old, which is counter productive and unfortunate. It is highly unlikely ANYONE needs every single aircraft from git that they were previously forced to take, which is the whole point of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

I actually lost track of who is doing what in the splitting of fgdata but there is a tremendous response pointing out issues related to the split. I want to express support for the splitting team. I support the split if only for the reason that aircraft maintainers will get commit rights to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Martin Spott wrote: > > A super module sounds ideal if that's doable in git. Looking forward to > it! > > Gitorious will be pleased if everybody starts pulling everything from > scratch - and developers will be pleased by Gitorious' performance when > everybody s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

Curtis Olson wrote: > A super module sounds ideal if that's doable in git. Looking forward to it! Gitorious will be pleased if everybody starts pulling everything from scratch - and developers will be pleased by Gitorious' performance when everybody starts pulling everything from scratch. Previo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On 19 Oct 2011, at 17:47, Curtis Olson wrote: > One more super module question: if I start plowing through 350 aircraft by > hand, and then next week you come out with a super module, will that require > me to redownload everything, or can that be retrofitted on top of the modules > I've alrea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: > A super module sounds ideal if that's doable in git. Looking forward to > it! For now, maybe I have to sluff along with the aircraft from the old > fgdata repository. > Hi James, One more super module question: if I start plowing through

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

automatically. Ciao, Alessandro Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:06:24 +0200 From: jorgvanderve...@googlemail.com To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split Normally windows users want everything in a 1 click download

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Martin Spott wrote: > Curtis Olson wrote: > > > Anyone have any good ideas? > > Yes, revert the dissection of 'fgdata' until a practical solution is in > place which doesn't require lots of people to waste extra time just to > achieve the previous state which simp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

avvy combination of wget, grep and sed. > > Ciao, > > Alessandro > > > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:42:49 +0200 > > From: anders-...@gidenstam.org > > > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: > Hi James, > > A super module sounds ideal if that's doable in git. Looking forward to > it! For now, maybe I have to sluff along with the aircraft from the old > fgdata repository. > Replying to myself: Once we have a super-module for all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:48 AM, James Turner wrote: > The intention is create a super-module which has each aircraft as a > submodule. Eg an 'all-aircraft' repository, for people who want this. > > Ideally someone with some scripting skills would automate creating that > repository, and then we'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

Curtis Olson wrote: > Anyone have any good ideas? Yes, revert the dissection of 'fgdata' until a practical solution is in place which doesn't require lots of people to waste extra time just to achieve the previous state which simply works for them. Spending some thoughts on how to compensate the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

course, you can get all the data with a savvy combination of wget, grep and sed. Ciao, Alessandro > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:42:49 +0200 > From: anders-...@gidenstam.org > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On 19 Oct 2011, at 16:27, Curtis Olson wrote: > Right now we've replaced a one-line command with several weeks of manual > work. (Or so it appears.) I understand the reasons, and we need to move > forward, but I think this is a logic gap here -- an unforeseen side effect, > and a problem we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On Wed, 19 Oct 2011, Curtis Olson wrote: > Sure we can script it out, but do I have 2-3 days right now to fiddle with a > script? Not this week myself. Updating aircraft repositories you have cloned should be easy enough, a quick and dirty bash hack: for d in my-aircraft-dir/*; do (cd $d; git p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:14 AM, TDO_Brandano - wrote: > Not automatically, as far as I know, but it should be relatively simple to > script this. the main issue is how to script something that will work across > platforms. I can do this in less than 20 lines of python, but of course not > every

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

, Alessandro From: curtol...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:03:25 -0500 To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split Question on the new repository layout: I would like to pull every aircraft from https

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

Question on the new repository layout: I would like to pull every aircraft from https://gitorious.org/flightgear-aircraft/ Is there a way to do this in a single command or do I have to manually identify each aircraft in the repository and manually clone it here? If someone adds a new aircraft to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On 19 October 2011 19:29, Cedric Sodhi wrote: > >  https://gitorious.org/flightgear-aircraft Last night, the discussion came up where the above page is slow to load, in part it's due to 1.2MB of HTML code, plus the CSS, plus the any images in use. Not very browser friendly. I hacked together a ph

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On 19 Oct 2011, at 10:15, Edheldil wrote: > Is there any written spec on this system? I got frustrated when looking > for a specific aircraft in fgrun :) and so I suggested something similar > several days ago on IRC, but it got confused with a/c rating. > > If I understand you correctly, "submi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On 10/19/2011 10:36 AM, James Turner wrote: > On 18 Oct 2011, at 23:21, dave perry wrote: > >> 2. Assuming the answers are no, yes, to #1, will all these repositories >> be centrally located so one can track new or modified ac of interest? >> >> 3. Is there any interest in creating repositories

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On 18 Oct 2011, at 23:21, dave perry wrote: > 2. Assuming the answers are no, yes, to #1, will all these repositories > be centrally located so one can track new or modified ac of interest? > > 3. Is there any interest in creating repositories by ac class/type? > e.g. historical, military-f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 04:21:47PM -0600, dave perry wrote: > On 10/18/2011 10:24 AM, Cedric Sodhi wrote: > > - Development - > > > > All aircraft related development shall henceforth be performed on > > repositories which are maintained by the respective authors. > > > > It is planned that most of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On 10/18/2011 10:24 AM, Cedric Sodhi wrote: > = IMPORTANT NOTICE TO EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF FGDATA > OR AIRPLANES THEREIN = > > Thanks to the concentrated effort of all people involved, most notably > Jorg - who I'd hereby like to thank on behalf of all of us, for spending > three

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Cedric Sodhi wrote: >> NOTE: Some aircrafts explicitly require to be inside of FGDATA, because >> they are programmed to expect their own data files to be found in >> FGDATA. These airplanes will give you an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

Am 18.10.2011 19:45, schrieb Gijs de Rooy: > > > Torsten wrote: > > git clone g...@gitorious.org:fg/fgdata-new data > > Make sure you don't forget .git. Use this: > > git clone g...@gitorious.org:fg/fgdata-new.git touche - I'm getting too old for this ;-) It works now, thanks! Torsten

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

> Torsten wrote: > git clone g...@gitorious.org:fg/fgdata-new data Make sure you don't forget .git. Use this: git clone g...@gitorious.org:fg/fgdata-new.git data -- All the dat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

Am 18.10.2011 19:30, schrieb Gijs de Rooy: > > Torsten wrote: > > For some reason, there seems to be no ssh url available for fgdata-new > > and the aircraft projects? > > There is. g...@gitorious.org:fg/fgdata-new.git > and for the aircraft it's lik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

> Torsten wrote:> For some reason, there seems to be no ssh url available for > fgdata-new > and the aircraft projects? There is. g...@gitorious.org:fg/fgdata-new.git and > for the aircraft it's like g...@gitorious.org:flightgear-aircraft/c172p.git (all aircraft repos simply match the respec

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

Am 18.10.2011 18:24, schrieb Cedric Sodhi: > Next, clone the new repository of FGDATA > > $ git clone git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata-new.git fgdata For some reason, there seems to be no ssh url available for fgdata-new and the aircraft projects? Torsten ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the

The 'fgdata'-mirror at: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl?p=fgdata which previously had been maintained for it's advantageous download performance is now frozen, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 05:33:23PM +0100, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Cedric Sodhi wrote: > > NOTE: Some aircrafts explicitly require to be inside of FGDATA, because > > they are programmed to expect their own data files to be found in > > FGDATA. These airplanes will

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

Good work guys. Thanks. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Cedric Sodhi wrote: > NOTE: Some aircrafts explicitly require to be inside of FGDATA, because > they are programmed to expect their own data files to be found in > FGDATA. These airplanes will give you an error if you put them outside > of F

[Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

= IMPORTANT NOTICE TO EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF FGDATA OR AIRPLANES THEREIN = Thanks to the concentrated effort of all people involved, most notably Jorg - who I'd hereby like to thank on behalf of all of us, for spending three successive days and nights branching, cloning, filteri