Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-12 Thread gerard robin
On mer 12 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * gerard robin -- Wednesday 12 December 2007: > > And, what, about the Bleriot FDM done by David and Lee ? > > Oh, I don't want to diktate about this either. But I think with > the current FDM it would put us into a glasshouse, from which > throwing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Wednesday 12 December 2007: > And, what, about the Bleriot FDM done by David and Lee ? Oh, I don't want to diktate about this either. But I think with the current FDM it would put us into a glasshouse, from which throwing stones at the MSFS scenery viewer would be unwise. m. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-12 Thread gerard robin
On mer 12 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Durk Talsma -- Saturday 08 December 2007: > > Based on all the input sofar, I'd like to propose the following > > list of aircraft for inclusion in the next release: > > BTW: one of these lacks a texture file. I just don't want to > diktate that it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Saturday 08 December 2007: > Based on all the input sofar, I'd like to propose the following > list of aircraft for inclusion in the next release: BTW: one of these lacks a texture file. I just don't want to diktate that it be added ... m. :-} --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-11 Thread LeeE
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 15:52, dave perry wrote: [snip...] > I took a look at the bleriot-XI-yasim.xml last night. The > dimensions in this file do not match the .ac file. After some > time with google looking for specifications, I found a few very > good sources. The wing span in the .ac fi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-11 Thread gerard robin
On mar 11 décembre 2007, LeeE wrote: > > > I couldn't resist having a quick look at it:) > > I've attached a config for you to have a look at (tarred & gzip'd) > > I took your revised config and changed: > > approach aoa - now set to 3 deg - 15 deg value seemed much too high > and just wouldn't ha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-11 Thread LeeE
This may appear twice - it didn't seem to get through first time so I'm re-sending it. On Tuesday 11 December 2007 15:52, dave perry wrote: [snip...] > I took a look at the bleriot-XI-yasim.xml last night. The > dimensions in this file do not match the .ac file. After some > time with google lo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-11 Thread gerard robin
On mar 11 décembre 2007, dave perry wrote: > gerard robin wrote: SNIP > >> > >> The bleriot is very nice, much nicer than the wright. But its FDM > >> is a bit ... ummm ... well, the engine is quite powerful and the > >> aircraft allows some aerobatics, which the real one probably didn't ;-) > >>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-11 Thread dave perry
gerard robin wrote: > On sam 8 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > >> * Durk Talsma -- Saturday 08 December 2007: >> >>> Based on all the input sofar, I'd like to propose the following list of >>> aircraft for inclusion in the next release: >>> >> Looks good. Not trying to say any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-10 Thread gerard robin
On sam 8 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Durk Talsma -- Saturday 08 December 2007: > > Based on all the input sofar, I'd like to propose the following list of > > aircraft for inclusion in the next release: > > Looks good. Not trying to say anything particular -- just FYI: > > 20M 78

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-09 Thread Curtis Olson
On Dec 9, 2007 9:32 PM, dave perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dave perry wrote: > > The same pair owned a copy of the Curtis-Wright pusher with a real gnome > > rotary (stationary crank with rotating case and cylinders). That flew > > quite well and was very maneuverable although the rotary cau

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-09 Thread dave perry
dave perry wrote: > The same pair owned a copy of the Curtis-Wright pusher with a real gnome > rotary (stationary crank with rotating case and cylinders). That flew > quite well and was very maneuverable although the rotary caused a lot of > precession force with maneuvers. Correction - it wa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-09 Thread dave perry
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > The bleriot is very nice, much nicer than the wright. But its FDM > is a bit ... ummm ... well, the engine is quite powerful and the > aircraft allows some aerobatics, which the real one probably didn't ;-) > Melchior, that is understatement! When I was flying for Des

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread Will Harrison
I think it would be better to replace the pa28-161 with the pa24-250, as the pa28 is similar in type to the c172. Also, Durk has pointed out a problem with the sound in the b1900d that should probably be fixed before a release. On Dec 8, 2007 7:57 PM, gerard robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread gerard robin
On sam 8 décembre 2007, Ralf Gerlich wrote: > Hi Gerard! > > gerard robin wrote: > > Thanks , but NO > > Catalina and Blackbird are on only under construction. > > There is a lot of stuff to do , cockpit and FDM (mainly Blackbird which > > is wrong), > > My to do list is long like the bible :) > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Saturday 08 December 2007 18:30:53 Durk Talsma wrote: > I also like the 737, and with a 3D cockpit, I'd almost certainly decided to > keep it, but as it stands, the 2D cockpit stands out in a selction of > almost exclusively 3D cockpits. Of course we're by no means ditching the 737 (or any oth

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Saturday 08 December 2007 18:28:35 Jon S. Berndt wrote: > One question, though, for these aircraft which will not be included for the > next release, where should official copies be updated? They're all "included" in the release in that they all go onto the aircraft download page (http://www.f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread Heiko Schulz
--- Durk Talsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Saturday 08 December 2007 19:21, gerard robin > wrote: > > > > I forgot, > > does the 737 gone out and DEAD ? (in spite of > the coming 3D cockpit , > > Heiko working hardly on it). > > Certainly not dead. :-) I asked Heiko, off-list how > mu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread Durk Talsma
On Saturday 08 December 2007 19:21, gerard robin wrote: > > I forgot, > does the 737 gone out and DEAD ? (in spite of the coming 3D cockpit , > Heiko working hardly on it). Certainly not dead. :-) I asked Heiko, off-list how much time he needed to finish the 3D cockpit, and answered that he w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> I vote to keep the 737 > > Regards > -- > Gérard Once the 3D cockpit comes out, and some other work is done, perhaps it can be reconsidered. I'm not going to argue with this process, which has been careful and considerate. One question, though, for these aircraft which will not be included f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread gerard robin
On sam 8 décembre 2007, Durk Talsma wrote: > Hi there, > > Based on all the input sofar, I'd like to propose the following list of > aircraft for inclusion in the next release: > > 787 > A-10 > bf109 > bo105 > c172 > c172p > SenecaII > Beaver > B1900d > Lightning > j3cub > seahawk > p51d > pa28-161

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:25:26 +0100 Durk Talsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > Based on all the input sofar, I'd like to propose the following list of > aircraft for inclusion in the next release: > > 787 > A-10 > bf109 > bo105 > c172 > c172p > SenecaII > Beaver > B1900d > Lightning >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi Gerard! gerard robin wrote: > Thanks , but NO > Catalina and Blackbird are on only under construction. > There is a lot of stuff to do , cockpit and FDM (mainly Blackbird which is > wrong), > My to do list is long like the bible :) > Nothing valuable to be released "Production" Just toda

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread gerard robin
On sam 8 décembre 2007, Durk Talsma wrote: > Hi there, > > Based on all the input sofar, I'd like to propose the following list of > aircraft for inclusion in the next release: > > 787 > A-10 > bf109 > bo105 > c172 > c172p > SenecaII > Beaver > B1900d > Lightning > j3cub > seahawk > p51d > pa28-161

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Saturday 08 December 2007: > Based on all the input sofar, I'd like to propose the following list of > aircraft for inclusion in the next release: Looks good. Not trying to say anything particular -- just FYI: 20M 787 20M A-10 26M bf109 3.2Mbo105* 84K

[Flightgear-devel] Pre-final aircraft selection

2007-12-08 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi there, Based on all the input sofar, I'd like to propose the following list of aircraft for inclusion in the next release: 787 A-10 bf109 bo105 c172 c172p SenecaII Beaver B1900d Lightning j3cub seahawk p51d pa28-161 Bocian choice of (T38, or Catalina, or Blackbird) ufo bleriot-XI-yasim In r