Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:05:45 -0400, David wrote in message : > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Peter Brown > wrote: > > > In terms of simplicity, I would like to offer a suggestion of using > > one (or more) of the parking positions at airports with (current) > > parking positions.  If the user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-07 Thread James Turner
On 7 Apr 2010, at 03:36, Ron Jensen wrote: > I like the idea of using some standardized properties > under /sim/realism/ and retrofitting all aircraft to respect start-dark > or something similar. > > I am also firmly against turning on aircraft to aircraft collisions. Aircraft-aircraft collisi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread Ron Jensen
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 00:06 +0100, James Turner wrote: > I've started creating some properties under /sim/realism (mostly > booleans for the moment), with the expectation that at some point we > can create a GUI, and also use some Nasal to batch-configure the > individual settings for different app

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread dave perry
On 04/06/2010 06:05 PM, David Megginson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Peter Brown > wrote: > > >> In terms of simplicity, I would like to offer a suggestion of using one (or >> more) of the parking positions at airports with (current) parking positions. >> If the user spawns at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread Peter Brown
On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:05 PM, David Megginson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Peter Brown > wrote: > >> In terms of simplicity, I would like to offer a suggestion of using one (or >> more) of the parking positions at airports with (current) parking positions. >> If the user spawns at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread David Megginson
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Peter Brown wrote: > In terms of simplicity, I would like to offer a suggestion of using one (or > more) of the parking positions at airports with (current) parking positions.   > If the user spawns at an airport without any preset parking positions, a > position

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread James Turner
On 7 Apr 2010, at 00:27, David Megginson wrote: > OK, here's my suggestion: *all* aircraft start with the runway > threshold with the engine idling, unless the user has overridden that. > Engine on/off is a decision that it doesn't make sense leaving to > individual aircraft designers, since it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:27 PM, David Megginson wrote: > OK, here's my suggestion: *all* aircraft start with the runway > threshold with the engine idling, unless the user has overridden that. > Engine on/off is a decision that it doesn't make sense leaving to > individual aircraft designers, sin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread Peter Brown
On Apr 6, 2010, at 7:27 PM, David Megginson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:06 PM, James Turner wrote: > >> My concern is touching the dreaded position init code, which is already >> baroque and complex. There's also the question of guessing a parking >> position when we don't have parking

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread Peter Brown
On Apr 6, 2010, at 7:06 PM, James Turner wrote: > > On 6 Apr 2010, at 20:35, Martin Spott wrote: > >>> Except in the case of an accident or mechanical failure, you would >>> *never* be sitting on the threshold with your engine off, especially >>> at a big airport like KSFO (unless you wanted to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread David Megginson
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:06 PM, James Turner wrote: > My concern is touching the dreaded position init code, which is already > baroque and complex. There's also the question of guessing a parking position > when we don't have parking stand data - eg picking a point some distance away > from t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread James Turner
On 6 Apr 2010, at 20:35, Martin Spott wrote: >> Except in the case of an accident or mechanical failure, you would >> *never* be sitting on the threshold with your engine off, especially >> at a big airport like KSFO (unless you wanted to give your plane and >> yourself a 747-sized colon exam).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issue with default starting scenario

2010-04-06 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: > 1. it's normal to have a plane sitting on the runway threshold with > the engine idling > 2. it's normal to have a plane sitting in a parking spot on the apron > with the engine off > 3. it's *not* normal to have a plane sitting on the runway threshold > with the engine of