On Thursday, August 12, 2010, Jim Henry wrote:
> Again I am just making an observation regarding something I don't do so
> I could be completely off base. Is one of the uses of FluidSynth
> intended to be a MIDI file player that allows the use of sound fonts? If
> so, I think some of those who want
On Thursday, August 12, 2010, Bernd Casper wrote:
> yes, I do.
> My opinion: I can understand the need of the most versatile bank select
> method for performing MIDI-files. But from my personal point of view
> (musician, practical, real-time) I need to know how I do handle bank select
> in FS corre
On Wednesday, August 11, 2010, Elimar Green wrote:
> Actually I take that back, about it sounding good.. It seems like
> adding a MIDI mode which requires manual assignment of that value,
> without proper SYSEX handling, will likely lead to many MIDI songs not
> working properly
Please, back you
Again I am just making an observation regarding something I don't do so
I could be completely off base. Is one of the uses of FluidSynth
intended to be a MIDI file player that allows the use of sound fonts? If
so, I think some of those who want to use it that way are likely to have
little under
Forwarded to the list, sorry.
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Absender: Bernd Casper
Empfänger: Elimar Green
Zeit: 2010-08-12, 10:12:51
Betreff: Re: Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of
ticket#65)
Hi Elimar,
yes, I do.
My opinion: I can
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
wrote:
>> Sounds good. Does it make sense to have separate midi.bank-select and
>> a midi.mode setting though? Why not just make it midi.mode and then
>> we can add additional functionality on to it in the future? That was
>> how it had be
On Wednesday, August 11, 2010, Elimar Green wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
>
> wrote:
> > I agree that we can leave the SYSEX stuff for a future release, avoiding
> > the risk of spend too much time implementing and testing this feature. In
> > addition to your co
Actually I take that back, about it sounding good.. It seems like
adding a MIDI mode which requires manual assignment of that value,
without proper SYSEX handling, will likely lead to many MIDI songs not
working properly (like if a user is playing multiple MIDI files which
are of different modes).
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
wrote:
>
> I agree that we can leave the SYSEX stuff for a future release, avoiding the
> risk of spend too much time implementing and testing this feature. In
> addition to your code, I've included similar functionality in kmidimon.
>
> I di
2010-08-10 12:01, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
>>
>> Fair enough, go ahead. I would say we skip the "awe32" alias though, I
>> think it causes confusion to have two setting values doing the same thing.
>
> Done, in SVN revision 340. Please t
On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, Jim Henry wrote:
> On 8/9/2010 10:34 PM, Elimar Green wrote:
> > ... if only the
> > MSB is received prior to a Program Change, then it should be
> > interpreted as LSB. If both MSB and LSB are received, they should
> > combine to select the bank (once the Program Chan
On 8/9/2010 10:34 PM, Elimar Green wrote:
... if only the
MSB is received prior to a Program Change, then it should be
interpreted as LSB. If both MSB and LSB are received, they should
combine to select the bank (once the Program Change is received) as
MSB * 128 + LSB.
I don't do the kind of stu
On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
> 2010-08-10 08:01, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
> > On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, Elimar Green wrote:
> >> It seems simple enough to revert the behavior to 1.0.9 functionality.
> >> This should work fine in most cases, as far as the whole MSB i
2010-08-10 08:01, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, Elimar Green wrote:
>> It seems simple enough to revert the behavior to 1.0.9 functionality.
>> This should work fine in most cases, as far as the whole MSB is
>> actually LSB when only the MSB is received.
>>
>> I can u
On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, Elimar Green wrote:
> It seems simple enough to revert the behavior to 1.0.9 functionality.
> This should work fine in most cases, as far as the whole MSB is
> actually LSB when only the MSB is received.
>
> I can understand David wanting to release ASAP, since he has b
It seems simple enough to revert the behavior to 1.0.9 functionality.
This should work fine in most cases, as far as the whole MSB is
actually LSB when only the MSB is received.
I can understand David wanting to release ASAP, since he has been
waiting for a while to do so. But I think the behavio
On Monday, August 9, 2010, I wrote:
> XG defaults and recommends channel #10 as the drum channel. Other channels
> may be used as drum channels when CC#32=127 is received on any channel.
>
> What I'm proposing is to fix *NOW* the broken behavior that is plaguing
> FluidSynth-1.1.x converting any me
On Monday, August 9, 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
> 2010-08-08 23:42, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
> > On Sunday, August 8, 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
> > SF2 (SoundFont) files (like GeneralUser, FluidR3,...) have bank
> > numbers < 127 for melodic sounds and 128 for Drum kits, as
>
On Monday, August 9, 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
> 2010-08-08 23:42, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
> >> How about we release 1.1.2 now, list this as a known issue, and release
> >> 1.1.3 as soon as this is agreed, fixed and finished, with Sysexes,
> >> settings, and so on?
> >> If that then take
2010-08-08 23:42, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
> On Sunday, August 8, 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
> SF2 (SoundFont) files (like GeneralUser, FluidR3,...) have bank numbers
> < 127 for melodic sounds and 128 for Drum kits, as recommended by the
> SoundFont specification [5]. It is ne
2010-08-08 23:42, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
>> How about we release 1.1.2 now, list this as a known issue, and release
>> 1.1.3 as soon as this is agreed, fixed and finished, with Sysexes,
>> settings, and so on?
>> If that then takes just a week - then we can release 1.1.3 just a week
>> after
On Saturday, August 7, 2010, Elimar Green wrote:
> This was all basically implemented at one point in FluidSynth with a
> settings option and detection of SYSEX MIDI mode change messages,
> which would modify the current settings value dynamically. It was
> removed because it was deemed incomplete
On Sunday, August 8, 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
> >>> SF2 (SoundFont) files (like GeneralUser, FluidR3,...) have bank numbers
> >>> < 127 for melodic sounds and 128 for Drum kits, as recommended by the
> >>> SoundFont specification [5]. It is necessary to map the MIDI Bank
> >>> Select numbers
On Saturday, August 7, 2010, S. Christian Collins wrote:
> Another option, rather than try to guess what bank select mode to use
> would be to default to the GS standard, but have an option to use XG
> mode--this could even be a switch added to Qsynth easily enough for us
> GUI folks.
Defaulting t
This was all basically implemented at one point in FluidSynth with a
settings option and detection of SYSEX MIDI mode change messages,
which would modify the current settings value dynamically. It was
removed because it was deemed incomplete (as far as all the additional
functionality which comes
--- On Sat, 8/7/10, Elimar Green wrote:
> From: Elimar Green
> Subject: Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket
> #65)
> To: "jimmy"
> Cc: fluid-dev@nongnu.org
> Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 9:51 AM
> This was all basicall
2010-08-04 23:31, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
> On Wednesday, August 4, 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
>> 2010-08-03 22:48, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
>>> [Sorry, this is a bit long...]
>>
>> I'm glad you took the time to sort it out!
>>
>>> MIDI Bank Select messages are Control Change #0 (MSB
May be this would help if someone decides to try adding some basic support for
detecting GM/GS/XG modes. Of course, full support may require more work.
About GS-reset:
www.bandtrax.com.au/sysex.htm
www.2writers.com/eddie/TutSysEx.htm
XG-reset info:
www.xg-central.com/xgc-introdu
> Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:06:12 -0500
> From: "S. Christian Collins"
>
> Another option, rather than try to guess what bank select
> mode to use
> would be to default to the GS standard, but have an option
> to use XG
> mode--this could even be a switch added to Qsynth easily
> enough for us
> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:52:14 +0200
> From: Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
>
> On Friday, August 6, 2010, Elimar Green wrote:
> > > I want to remark the above quotation from the SF2
> specification. SF2 bank
> > > numbers for melodic channels are numbers in the
> range 0 to 127, 7 bits.
> >
> > That
Another option, rather than try to guess what bank select mode to use
would be to default to the GS standard, but have an option to use XG
mode--this could even be a switch added to Qsynth easily enough for us
GUI folks.
That being said, if the guessing is pretty foolproof, then that's
probab
On Friday, August 6, 2010, S. Christian Collins wrote:
> I had no complaints with how bank selects worked in 1.0.9--it's exactly the
> same way my SoundFont-compatible Audigy hardware works. I don't see the
> need to support XG mode when the SoundFont standard doesn't really use that
> mode at all
I had no complaints with how bank selects worked in 1.0.9--it's exactly
the same way my SoundFont-compatible Audigy hardware works. I don't see
the need to support XG mode when the SoundFont standard doesn't really
use that mode at all. There is a lot more that goes into
XG-compatibility than
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
wrote:
> On Friday, August 6, 2010, Elimar Green wrote:
>> > I want to remark the above quotation from the SF2 specification. SF2 bank
>> > numbers for melodic channels are numbers in the range 0 to 127, 7 bits.
>>
>> That is only for General
On Friday, August 6, 2010, Elimar Green wrote:
> > I want to remark the above quotation from the SF2 specification. SF2 bank
> > numbers for melodic channels are numbers in the range 0 to 127, 7 bits.
>
> That is only for General MIDI (GM) compatibility though.
No. General MIDI (GM) doesn't use
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 4, 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
>> 2010-08-03 22:48, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
>> > [Sorry, this is a bit long...]
>>
>> I'm glad you took the time to sort it out!
I second that. Thanks for taking the time
On Wednesday, August 4, 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
> 2010-08-03 22:48, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
> > [Sorry, this is a bit long...]
>
> I'm glad you took the time to sort it out!
>
> > MIDI Bank Select messages are Control Change #0 (MSB) and CC#32 (LSB)
> > [4]. Up to FS-1.0.9, the behavio
2010-08-03 22:48, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev:
> [Sorry, this is a bit long...]
I'm glad you took the time to sort it out!
> MIDI Bank Select messages are Control Change #0 (MSB) and CC#32 (LSB) [4]. Up
> to FS-1.0.9, the behavior was that when a CC#0 message was received, the
> value was used
[Sorry, this is a bit long...]
After FS-1.0.9 was released, several changes have been accumulated in the code
producing incompatible behavior with regarding to the management of the MIDI
Bank Select messages.
MIDI Bank Select messages are Control Change #0 (MSB) and CC#32 (LSB) [4]. Up
to FS-1
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