Re: FLUXLIST: Take offense? That's intriguing. Over what?

2000-11-02 Thread Arturas
There was meSorry. Could you give me your mail address, I'll send you your gate back. sincerely yours, arturas - Original Message - From: Roger Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 6:20 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Take offense? That's

RE: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Ceyda Karamürsel (Customertech-Yet.Uzm.)
hi aaron. i'm interested. i'll be glad if you send that word attachment to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] thank you. ceyda > I probably shouldn't post the entire A._S.L.O.T.H. text. It's quite long, > but I can send it directly to whoever is interested. (As a MS Wor

FLUXLIST: letter for my

2000-11-02 Thread Arturas
LAbas mano zydrasis drauge. Tikiuosi, kad tau dar yr. Kadangi taip, tai va. Juk rytmeèio breksna, tau gali mai¹yti, aaa! Ne koks tai lapu snaresys. Atleisk, kad neatejau i pasimatyma, juk ir man jo reikejo. Vakar vakaro tustinimasis man primine, kaip ir tau, juk ta pati anga. Su meile tavo v

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H. MANIFESTO

2000-11-02 Thread NBBurr44
I think this well speaks to YOUR sensibility which sounds very generous but does not allow that there are many others, other ways and focusses towards art, or what we are getting at here as meaning "art" or meaning "meaning"! when you speak of practicalities isnt' that what it com

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H. MANIFESTO

2000-11-02 Thread David Baptiste Chirot
i think this discussion-- it betrays too much anxiety somehow to me is having too little faith in the work maybe i am just getting to be old idiot anymore i think the only questions with art are the practical ones relations among the materi

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H. MANIFESTO

2000-11-02 Thread Aaron Kimberly
Cecil, I'm not sure there are definitive answers to any of your questions but I'm sure they will stimulate interesting debate. Debates like these tend to bring up to the surface our values and assumptions - that's what I like about them. Personally speaking, I'm more interested in compassion than

Re: FLUXLIST: Take offense? That's intriguing. Over what?That'san interesting idea -

2000-11-02 Thread narvis & ...pez
"excerpts from 'assemblages, environments & happenings" alan kaprow in "happenings and other acts" a compilation of texts edited by mariellen r. sandford -routledge- 1995 first published p. 239-240 chao ...pez At 09:29 am -0600 2/11/00, cecil touchon wrote: >That was very good Pez! What was the

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Rod Stasick
Cecil: I agree/relate sooo much with what you are saying here. I use, what could easily seem to others, a complicated process based on chance operations concerning the projects that I'm working on and the time (incl. *amount* of time) in which to do these things. So, I therefore create a *game* s

FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H. MANIFESTO

2000-11-02 Thread cecil touchon
"Art should problematize popular relationships: work/play, usefulness/uselessness, public/private, engaged/dis-engaged etc. For example, art creates tension where it is both commodity (“valuable”) and non-work (“useless” play). Art then, does not escape capitalism, replacing it with a powerless ut

FLUXLIST: finally, the site is updated and we are featuring: ||||||TAM TALKS with GH HOVA

2000-11-02 Thread Crisarc2000
(apologies for cross-posting) finally, the site is updated and we are featuring: ||TAM TALKS with GH HOVAGIMYAN | http://alternativemuseum.org/home.html In this RealAudio Video by Lee Songe Tam Monitor editor Cristine Wang talks to media artist GH Hovagimyan at his home + studio in tr

FLUXLIST: Svjetlana Mimica/Mail Art (fwd)

2000-11-02 Thread David Baptiste Chirot
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Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread cecil touchon
yes me too! cecil Sol Nte wrote: > >I probably shouldn't post the entire A._S.L.O.T.H. text. It's quite long, > but I can send it directly to whoever is interested. (As a MS Word > attachment preferably)< > > Please do send it directly to me... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks. > > >But then the a

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Carol Starr
> hi aaron, > please send me a copy, will i be able to read it on my mac? > the subject of work is an interesting one for the artist; so often i feel that > people think i'm playing, which is true, however they don't say it in a nice > way but infer that their endeavors are much more worth while s

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Terrence Kosick
Terrence writes; Finite and Infinite games. This is a book that i have read. It gave me some meaning and insight into my creative processes and evidential objects. It could be just the book to understand what work and art activity can mean and what things gives meaning to a creative life. You are

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Sol Nte
>I probably shouldn't post the entire A._S.L.O.T.H. text. It's quite long, but I can send it directly to whoever is interested. (As a MS Word attachment preferably)< Please do send it directly to me... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. >But then the art itself wasn't considered "work".< Well the ke

Re: FLUXLIST: Take offense? That's intriguing. Over what?

2000-11-02 Thread Roger Stevens
Aha! But that's no defence is it? >Oh yes, that was the... > >Right To Remain Silent Event > >Steal something rediculous like somebody's gate >wait for police to show up >remain silent no matter what from then on. > >Cecil Touchon Nov. 2, 2000 > > >Roger Stevens wrote: > >> ah, but the police th

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: >I probably shouldn't post the entire A._S.L.O.T.H. text. It's quite >long, >but I can send it directly to whoever is interested. (As a MS Word >attachment preferably) Aaron - can you send me a copy of the entire doc at [EMAIL PROTECTED], thanks. . . . On th

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread cecil touchon
For me the ideal is to do what one would do as one's leisure in such a way that is becomes one's work or at least appears to. That's what I do and have been doing for ten years now with great success. I use the idea of work - schedule, dedicated space, business technique etc. - to fund myself and

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Aaron Kimberly
> Interestingly Fluxus extols hard work as a means to an end. Maciunas > considered work important to fund the art projects carried out in one's > "leisure time". > > cheers, > Sol. Very true Sol. (and thanks for the additional resources) But then the art itself wasn't considered "work". Besides,

Re: FLUXLIST: Take offense? That's intriguing. Over what?

2000-11-02 Thread cecil touchon
Oh yes, that was the... Right To Remain Silent Event Steal something rediculous like somebody's gate wait for police to show up remain silent no matter what from then on. Cecil Touchon Nov. 2, 2000 Roger Stevens wrote: > ah, but the police then appeared > and the man found himself a good law

Re: FLUXLIST: Take offense? That's intriguing. Over what? That'san interesting idea -

2000-11-02 Thread cecil touchon
That was very good Pez! What was the source? cecil "narvis & ...pez" wrote: > "in the near future, plans may be developed which take > their cue from games and atlhetics, where the regulations > provide for a variety of moves that make the outcome always uncertaint. a > score might be written, s

Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Bush making Dan Quayle look smart (fwd)

2000-11-02 Thread St.Auby Tamas
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2000-11-02 Thread Don Boyd
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2000-11-02 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
Well, Ken would have printed it, anyway, it contains indeed some script, that may infect, but I think it isnt dangerous. H.

Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Melissa McCarthy
Sol wrote, in part: Maciunas considered work important to fund the art projects carried out in one's "leisure time". I read recently Frank Zappa's advice on being a composer; the last instruction was along the lines of "Get a part-time job so you can afford to do this more often." I lucked ou

FLUXLIST: beatles dot.com

2000-11-02 Thread narvis & ...pez
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Re: FLUXLIST: A._S.L.O.T.H.

2000-11-02 Thread Sol Nte
Hi Aaron, Interesting text. Is art always play? Would it be possible to see the whole text (uncut)? Actually I'd forgotten about Bob Black and his call for the ludic revolution in "The Abolition of Work"...it's the best thing he ever wrote I think. Many have theorised against work. Bertrand Rus

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2000-11-02 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
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2000-11-02 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
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