i think that the total boykott is a very stupid thing. but it seems like that it
becomes more and more a tactic of the western politics to boykott everything and
everyone who or which is not on their way to their capitalistic global
structure. the fact that a total boykott doesn't help in any sens
Marc Schulz und Christina Ohlhus wrote:
>
> my idea is not to make such strong reactions like a total boykott of austria.
> first a deeper understanding of the facts, then a reaction. please be more
> open-minded to support those people who didn't vote haider & schuessel!
>
It's time to stop un
Terrence writes;
Who are Haidlers real masters?
Sorry but I am not totally up on what the new policies are in the newly formed
Austrian government. And why they are so appealing that they have allowed them into
government? Are they very offensive to the EU? Can someone please direct me and
othe
Regarding Michel Foucault prisons doesn't make any sense... regarding Niklas Luhmann
entering an autopietic system destroy it because you're destroying their inner logic
they need for life... I'm against any kind of violence - physical or mental. And I'm
with Joseph Beuys, Robert Filliou and all
I have to say that you are totally all right on this point, but anyway escaping from a
country nazi politic systemis not a violence:
Specially when some institutins are getting fund from their government, they are part
of
the national system. Artist who have some art pieces ain these institutions
> We call it in France "recuperation", I don't know the word in english.
Its one of the cheap myths of France. Mitterant stopped this simplicistic
view, black and white thinking.
What the EU is doing in the Austria case is Imperialism. And all I hear
from France is "we have to stop it".
>From
valery grancher wrote:
>
> I'm keepin in mind the propaganda system from front national managed by Le Pen in
> France: his staff in various regions and area in France are not fighting againts
> contemporary art, but they defending it just to legitmate their political propaganda
>by
> saying they
Marc Schulz und Christina Ohlhus wrote:
>
> Regarding Michel Foucault prisons doesn't make any sense... regarding Niklas Luhmann
> entering an autopietic system destroy it because you're destroying their inner logic
> they need for life... I'm against any kind of violence - physical or mental. An
Heiko Recktenwald wrote (in different messages, cited in parts):
>
> Btw, we had no referendum on EU or whatever, the "euro-money" etc, and
> its very doubtfull, that the majority of the german voters had voted for it.
> In Austria, they had 2 third of the people backing EU.
>
So you support the
> It's time to stop understanding! In Germany every rigth-wing skinhead,
> who slaughtered an immigrant, receives sympathic judgement - because of
> his drunken mother, his work-less father and so on. And then he is sent
> to a holiday camp for three weeks instead of being put into prison for
> 1
Der Heiko
> Valery, have you ever seen an austrian paper, ever been in Vienna ?
>
I've been in Vienna I exhibited in Linz ... nice country with a great young
generation ! wand what about the old people I met who don't have any sorrow
regarding Kurt Waldheim and 1939-45 period.
strange it's look
i think that our discussion become more and more polemic. the mixing of the austrian
"problem" (fact is that more than 25 % of the austrians are pro haider - so it was a
democratic act!) with the accepting social work is strange... but to clear this fact
for
the fluxlisters:
i think it's poor to
Valery,
On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, valery grancher wrote:
> Der Heiko
>
>
> > Valery, have you ever seen an austrian paper, ever been in Vienna ?
> >
>
> I've been in Vienna I exhibited in Linz ... nice country with a great young
> generation ! wand what about the old people I met who don't have any
> never find any punk, hippie, rasta, anarchist etc. because they all were
> expelled by the "tolerated" and "accepted" right-wing youth groups - in
> most cases by violence. Moreover, these groups use the centre rooms to plan
> the next assault on an immegrant, the next neo-nazi demonstration, th
> > its very doubtfull, that the majority of the german voters had voted for it.
We havent been asked..
> > In Austria, they had 2 third of the people backing EU.
> >
> So you support the austrian model to be transfered to other european
> countries, because it's exemplary for a united continent
> Austria isnt
> Kosovo. It will never be.
>
It was once.
AK
How to respond to the current situation in Austria!
For Fluxlist Artists
Collaborationists:
Socio-Poetics since the 1950s
The specter of artists and intellectuals as Nazi or Stalinist
collaborationists has made collaborations-as-experimental art both more
difficult and more interesting, e
Visit the Krematorium.
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This is the completion of the project I just submitted to Ars Electronica;
a raw piece, but somewhat informative.
Also emailed invite to 4 Austrian newspapers and a Vienna TV station.
http://www.c3.hu/~itmiklos/site/aa2.html
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+just dust and ashes
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Communication can be a dangerous thing, if it breaks down barriers and
allows people who have previously been denied a voice to speak and
articulate a vision.
That seems to have been the revolutionary aspect of the internet so far
(e.g., amongst the "civil society" protesters in Seattle). It has
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