Re: [fossil-users] What should email notifications look like?

2018-06-26 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 2018-06-22 20:40, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: [---] > BTW, the main mercurial list uses the following mail format for "batch" > changes: > > https://www.mercurial-scm.org/pipermail/mercurial-devel/2018-June/117551.html This is highly machine parse-friendly. I like it a lot. -- Kind Regards

Re: [fossil-users] Rumor: Microsoft has acquired github

2018-06-03 Thread Jan Danielsson
dy Monday in my timezone, but the news outlets don't seem to care > about non-US timezones :/. Someone on twitter jested: "Sign in with your Office 365 account to access github.". I think there are a lot of people a gritting their teeth over that joke right now. -- Kind Re

Re: [fossil-users] Rumor: Microsoft has acquired github

2018-06-03 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 2018-06-04 00:35, Stephan Beal wrote: [---] > It does kind of make sense: the global leader in creating > market-leading-yet-unusable software acquires one more piece of > market-leading-yet-unusable software. This appeals to my sense of order. :) -- Kind Regards, Jan D

Re: [fossil-users] "malformed database schema"

2018-04-10 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 2018-04-11 00:17, Stephan Beal wrote: > i suspect that the old sqlite version has something to do with this. Try > using "fossil sqlite" instead of sqlite3. D'oh! Of course it is; I knew you were right before even trying. Thanks! -- Kind Re

[fossil-users] "malformed database schema"

2018-04-10 Thread Jan Danielsson
ded up in the same state. Browsing the source online repo seems to work fine, so I'm assuming it's a local problem -- but how can it end up in this state? I did no more than clone it. -- Kind Regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing

Re: [fossil-users] Cannot clone repository over SSL

2017-07-08 Thread Jan Danielsson
e's even a page for it on fossil's wiki. You could start by comparing that to your configuration. (That said, I haven't actually followed that guide; I don't recall if it was for SSL, and nor do I know if cloning works through it). -- Kind

Re: [fossil-users] How do I report a problem on the Fossil Web site?

2017-04-14 Thread Jan Danielsson
solution works with regards to client certificates/keys. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] SSL on Mac

2017-04-13 Thread Jan Danielsson
r to go back to the original idea of using statically-linked libraries for the pre-built binaries. That way when Apple decide to eliminate the dynamic libraries as well (not that I think they can do that any time soon) the monolithic fossil binary will continue to work. -- Kind regards, Jan D

Re: [fossil-users] SSL on Mac

2017-04-13 Thread Jan Danielsson
-C) library instead. The dynamic OpenSSL libraries remain in the system for compatibility, but they no longer include the headers -- so when you build fossil on new:ish Macs (read: XCode), build systems tend to find non-system instances of OpenSSL and use them instead. -- Kind rega

Re: [fossil-users] GitLab v. Fossil. Was: Eric Raymond (a.k.a. ESR) has published an SCM

2017-03-26 Thread Jan Danielsson
for that.". (As it happens, this tool X was a desktop application for the local checkout, which - in my mind - kind of defeated the purpose). Maybe this is tangentially related to the cathedral vs bazaar discussion; with Fossil, you typically have a central

Re: [fossil-users] Proposed roadmap for Fossil 2.0

2017-03-01 Thread Jan Danielsson
plans (not for 2.0, 2.1 or beyond). There's a separate project which is designed to accomplish what you're looking for: http://fossil.wanderinghorse.net/repos/libfossil -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-us

Re: [fossil-users] Git just got shallow and sparse clones

2017-02-04 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 2017-02-04 14:07, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: > On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 09:00:54 -0700 > Warren Young wrote: > >> https://developers.slashdot.org/story/17/02/03/1427213/microsoft-introduces-gvfs-git-virtual-file-system > > Care to elaborate a bit? [---] Granted, I just skimmed a few seconds, b

Re: [fossil-users] Running a Fossil server alongside Apache on Ubuntu

2017-01-04 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 2017-01-04 20:06, Damien Sykes-Lindley wrote: > Hi there, > I have recently delved into the technical joys and jargon of Linux, but I’m > still fairly new so you’ll have to excuse me if these questions are more > system than Fossil related. > 1. I am currently only aware of installing software

Re: [fossil-users] tags manifest

2016-08-06 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 05/08/16 02:51, Ross Berteig wrote: [---] > I just created test cases for fossil set manifest that verify that the > files manifest, manifest.uuid, and manifest.tags appear and disappear as > the setting is changed. I did not verify that any of the files have the > right content. Many thanks

Re: [fossil-users] tags manifest

2016-08-06 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 04/08/16 20:44, Warren Young wrote: >> That's one of the things I realized after a few >> failures -- whatever scheme you come up with, it has its limitations. > > That’s part of what I mean, but I’m not just talking about simple > limitations. The second and third applications of the code in

Re: [fossil-users] tags manifest

2016-08-03 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 04/08/16 00:08, Warren Young wrote: >> This means that the same >> information is available in two different places > > Only two? Aren’t you the lucky one. :) Not that lucky, unfortunately. :( That was mostly referring to cases such as sqlite and even fossil itself. In our case it refer

[fossil-users] tags manifest

2016-08-03 Thread Jan Danielsson
Hello, Since I've finally got a few days off, I've done some updates to the jan-manifest-tags; merge with trunk, made some bugfixes, and thought I'd reintroduce the branch (since it's been a while). The basic idea is the following: It's common practice for projects to tag new release versi

Re: [fossil-users] backing up repo to cloud service

2016-05-02 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 02/05/16 22:17, Steve Schow wrote: > I wish to include my fossil repos in backup to cloud backup service. > > what is the best approach for doing this? if a fossil operation is in the > middle of trying to do something when the automated cloud backup daemon > decides to backup the repo file,

Re: [fossil-users] Getting time of last repository change

2016-04-11 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 11/04/16 17:17, Stephan Beal wrote: [---] >>Is there a timestamp for when artifacts where locally added to the >> repository? (I'm not overly concerned with configuration changes and >> such; it's detecting checkins, tickets and other artifact changes that's >> important). > > rcvfrom migh

[fossil-users] Getting time of last repository change

2016-04-11 Thread Jan Danielsson
Hello, Short version: What's the best way to determine if a repository has changed? I have two systems which are sync'd in a cronjob. On one of the systems I run a cronjob which should take action only if the repository was changed. Before there were two systems I simply used mtime on th

Re: [fossil-users] fossil-users Digest, Vol 97, Issue 2

2016-02-03 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 02/02/16 23:19, Martin Vahi wrote: [---] > Thank You for the comparison. What regards to > Your statement that "e-mail refuses to go away", then > my answer is that the majority of the population on > planet Earth does not consist of software developers > or old-school communications technicians

[fossil-users] Recent breakage on Mac OS X

2016-01-30 Thread Jan Danielsson
Hello, This started happening recently: Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64: "_compress", referenced from: _blob_compress in blob.o _sqlcmd_compress in sqlcmd.o (maybe you meant: _blob_compress2, _test_cycle_compress , _compress2_cmd ,

Re: [fossil-users] slightly hacked Blitz skin

2016-01-22 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 21/01/16 19:17, Stephan Beal wrote: > i recently started using the Blitz skin on all my repos, but > fixed-/max-width pages annoy me to no end, so it go hacked every so > slightly to remove the max width. For anyone interested, here it is: > > http://fossil.wanderinghorse.net/download/skin.foss

Re: [fossil-users] There is a spammer listening to this mailing list

2016-01-16 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 17/01/16 06:53, Yannick Duchêne wrote: > I received a spam from `nella_br...@expertisetour.xyz` with subject “RE: > [fossil-users] What does the Older button's intended to do in the web UI?”. > So it appears a spammer subscribed to this mailing list, intercepts messages > and replies to it, w

Re: [fossil-users] fossil sync doesn't sync

2016-01-08 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 09/01/16 01:15, bch wrote: > Just talked to Joerg off-list (who indicated that he updated fossil > to latest on his server), and: > > $ fossil pull -verily > > Pull done, sent: 5064 received: 49107978 ip: 85.214.214.108 > > $ fossil timeline > === 2015-05-30 === > 14:42:26 [0bb26b5ab6] *CU

Re: [fossil-users] Versions & manifests

2016-01-05 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 05/01/16 09:14, Steve Stefanovich wrote: [---] >>Is this not sufficient for your needs? I'm not completely opposed to >> implementing what you're asking for, but if it can already be done without >> adding a "within a checkout" special case, I would prefer to leave it as it >> is. > > I d

Re: [fossil-users] Versions & manifests

2016-01-04 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 04/01/16 08:18, Steve Stefanovich wrote: > Would it be too difficult to put the branch tag (i.e the tag with asterisk > from 'fossil br li' output) in the first line of manifest.tags? It probably wouldn't, but I've been trying to keep the code agnostic with regards to being used in a checko

Re: [fossil-users] Versions & manifests

2016-01-03 Thread Jan Danielsson
Hello, drh and sgbeal brought up the following points: 1) Make sure an existing [managed] manifest.tags isn't overwritten. 2) fossil add needs to be made manifest.tags-aware. 3) Tarballs and zips need to be made manifest.tags-aware. 4) fossil clean needs to be made manifest.tags

Re: [fossil-users] fossil sync doesn't sync

2016-01-03 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 04/01/16 02:02, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 1/3/16, bch wrote: >> Indeed. I thought maybe the \n of the checkin-card (is this the right >> characterization ?) bug/fix might fix what I've been experiencing, so >> I updated to the latest. I'm nearly always running the tip of TRUNK. > > Any idea wha

Re: [fossil-users] Versions & manifests

2016-01-03 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 01/01/16 18:43, Jan Danielsson wrote: [---] >Optimally the tagged version _is_ the source version. [...] I'm home sick, so I started working on this in the branch jan-manifest-tags. I'd like some feedback on the settings semantics. What I want to accomplish is that

[fossil-users] Versions & manifests

2016-01-01 Thread Jan Danielsson
Hello, I have build systems which use the commit id from the manifest to embed the commit artifact id in the binary. I also, in most projects, have an ordinal version number which is loosely coupled between the repository and the build system/source in the sense that I can forget to update the

Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git

2015-11-02 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 03/11/15 00:38, Scott Robison wrote: >>> On 11/2/15, Jan Danielsson wrote: >>>> >>>> Supporting symlinks on Windows would currently be a little mess. >>> >>> What if we just say that symlinks don't work on Windows and that if >>

Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git

2015-11-02 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 03/11/15 00:00, Warren Young wrote: > On Nov 2, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: >> >> On 11/2/15, Jan Danielsson wrote: >>> >>> Supporting symlinks on Windows would currently be a little mess. >> >> What if we just say that symlinks don

Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git

2015-11-02 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 02/11/15 23:23, Warren Young wrote: >> Windows will ultimately get decent symlink support. > > I doubt it. Microsoft has tried to take a bite of that apple twice, and > screwed it up both times. > > First there was the Windows 95 *.lnk file feature, which is basically only a > symlink to Wi

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil server

2015-11-01 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 01/11/15 13:30, Damien Sykes-Pendleton wrote: > I’m running Windows. I’m not personally running anything on port 80, though I > get a blank web page (as opposed to a 404 or problem loading error) when I > visit localhost. I forget the name of the tool, but in there's a nifty tool for Windo

Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git

2015-10-31 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 31/10/15 06:27, Michal Suchanek wrote: [---] >> (For instance, my recent thread about how to clip off a a branch via the >> command line when the UI can’t do it because it was created empty, something >> Fossil can’t do, but which apparently CVS or SVN can, so it got into my >> Fossil tree wh

Re: [fossil-users] Self Signed Certificates

2015-08-16 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 16/08/15 19:56, Saul Hazledine wrote: > Hello, > I have been using a self-signed certificate on my Fossil server for > the last year and it just expired. I have replaced the expired > self-signed certificate with a new/different self-signed certificate. I assume you aren't using client cer

Re: [fossil-users] Any interest in testing/merging check-in-edit branch?

2015-07-18 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 18/07/15 17:09, Scott Robison wrote: > Still on phone. Instead of -euser how about -author? Instinctively seems > less clumsy but it's just a knee-jerk reaction to -euser which seems both > long and short simultaneously. :) I agree x 2. -- Kind Regards, Jan

Re: [fossil-users] SQLITE_BUSY ?

2015-06-17 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 17/06/15 11:38, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: [---] > Sadly, a plain pull is not 100% read-only, so WAL doesn't help avoiding > such problems. Out of curiosity; why aren't pulls 100% read-only on the server? -- Kind Regards, Jan ___ fossil-users mail

Re: [fossil-users] NOT_A_FILE problem

2015-06-05 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 05/06/15 13:08, jim Schimpf wrote: [---] > EDITED Docs/HayJam.pdf > NOT_A_FILE Docs/images/Detector.graffle > EDITED Docs/images/Detector.png > > So I then did a fossil rm of this file and did an OS rm and removed if from > the directory. > > put it back in the directory and fossil ad

Re: [fossil-users] trunk closed??

2015-05-30 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 29/05/15 22:15, Matt Welland wrote: > "We emphatically do NOT want Fossil second-guessing what branch you > want to be on when you do "fossil update" without an argument." > > Whatever option you decide - either way you are second guessing the users > intent. > > 1. Current behavior is really,

Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz

2015-03-14 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 13/03/15 19:11, James Moger wrote: [---] > Blitz has two variants (with logo & without logo). It includes an > alternative Ticket page layout and several image resources which may be of > use to other skins. Would you be willing to change the upper-case 'A-F' in hex digits to lower-case in

Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz

2015-03-13 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 13/03/15 19:11, James Moger wrote: > Hello Fossil community, [---] This just became my new favorite skin. Thank you for submitting this. -- Kind Regards, Jan ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 13/03/15 20:55, Richard Hipp wrote: >> Few organizations have the problem that the full power of Git solves. > And yet many organizations voluntarily take on the problems that come > with using Git. Weird. One shouldn't underestimate the power of "because everyone else does it". -- Kind R

Re: [fossil-users] RFC regarding short UUID for some command line use.

2015-03-08 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 08/03/15 06:48, Andy Bradford wrote: > There have recently been some changes to make short UUIDs more > prominent, however, I think that new checkins should still display the > full UUID: [---] > Thoughts? None other than a simple "I agree". /Jan ___

Re: [fossil-users] Justification for two-step mv and rm

2015-03-06 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 06/03/15 15:10, Jan Nijtmans wrote: [---] > "fossil rename" already exists as alias to "fossil mv", so I > suggest to add "fossil forget" as alias to "fossil rm". Then > later the behavior of fossil rm/mv" can be modified, while > forget/rename will continue to behave as rm/mv do now. > > Any o

Re: [fossil-users] Old problem not entirely gone?

2015-02-03 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 02/02/15 23:23, Warren Young wrote: >> The annoying thing is that when it fails, it wipes away whatever >> progress it has made. > Yes, well, that’s the nature of transactional DB updates: all or nothing. Implied: There's only one way to use transactions when performing initial synchroniza

[fossil-users] Old problem not entirely gone?

2015-02-01 Thread Jan Danielsson
Hello, I used to have major difficulties cloning huge repositories. (See http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/pipermail/fossil-users/2014-May/016234.html). In that thread the commit http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/b4dffdac5e706980d911a0e672526ad461ec0640 was brought up as a potential

Re: [fossil-users] Breaking out of "fossil ui" leaves files

2014-10-17 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 17/10/14 20:01, Jan Danielsson wrote: [.. -wal & -shm remain after ctrl-c:ing out of fossil ui ..] >A quick grep through the source leads me to believe that there is no > registered signal handler to handle SIGINT apart from when an sqlite > shell is started. Which leave

[fossil-users] Breaking out of "fossil ui" leaves files

2014-10-17 Thread Jan Danielsson
Hello, I just noticed something which I can't recall seeing before. I started "fossil ui" on a repository (-R foo.fossil), and when I hit ctrl-c, it terminated as expected, but it left the corresponding -shm and -wal files. I'm pretty sure I have used fossil ui on wal'd fossil repository data

Re: [fossil-users] Horror story about git - Forever Alone

2014-09-26 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 25/09/14 13:18, Matt Wellans wrote: > I suspect fossil would slow down faster than git in that scenario but I'd > also argue that because fossil is easier to understand that scenario is a > little less likely to happen. Let's all be honest here; this a unique case where you'd _want_ it to

Re: [fossil-users] SSL issue on Mac OS/X?

2014-06-12 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 12/06/14 20:29, Ron Aaron wrote: > Nope, no proxy. And I can connect from my linux clients just fine. > > I tend to think it's related to the certificates. openssl in Mac OS X is very old, so if you're using EC, RSA/PSS or something of the sort it could be an issue. -- Kind Regards, Jan

Re: [fossil-users] SSL issue on Mac OS/X?

2014-06-12 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 12/06/14 18:06, Ron Aaron wrote: > OK, my second fossil question in one day: > > I recently moved my repo from standard http to https (behind Apache) > > My linux machines had no problem with the change over. > > But the OS/X machine cannot connect to my repo. I get: > > SSL: cannot connect

Re: [fossil-users] can fossil try harder on sync failure?

2014-05-19 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 02/05/14 19:57, Andy Bradford wrote: >>> Artifacts sent: 0 received: 895 Error: Database error: database is locked: >>> {UPDATE event SET mtime=(SELECT m1 FROM time_fudge WHERE mid=objid) WHERE >>> objid IN (SELECT mid FROM time_fudge);} <#key_3_2> >>[...] >>As you say, it is highly rep

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil process hanging on sync to remote server?

2014-05-10 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 10/05/14 10:53, Gerald Gutierrez wrote: [---] > pContent=, N=) + 50 at http_ssl.c:399 >396 size_t got; >397 size_t total = 0; >398 while( N>0 ){ > -> 399 got = BIO_read(iBio, pContent, N); >400 if( got<=0 ) break; >401 total += got; >402 N -= got; >

Re: [fossil-users] can fossil try harder on sync failure?

2014-05-02 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 18/04/14 17:52, Matt Welland wrote: > Just FYI, I'm seeing this kind of message quite often. This is due to > overlapping clone operations on large fossils on relatively slow disk. [---] > Artifacts sent: 0 received: 895 Error: Database error: database is locked: > {UPDATE event SET mtime=(SELEC

[fossil-users] https-over-proxy

2014-02-04 Thread Jan Danielsson
Hello, I did some work to get https-over-proxy working because both a friend and I both needed it, and there was a ticket requesting the feature. Now the place where my friend works no longer uses proxies for outgoing traffic, so he no longer needs it, and I very rarely use it. So, the

Re: [fossil-users] https proxy tunnel

2013-10-29 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 28/10/13 13:39, Jan Nijtmans wrote: [---] > Conclusion: your branch works fine as long as the password is > not taken from the (https) url. > > I hope this feedback is useful to you. Yes, very useful. We only use client certificates, and apache is set up to set REMOTE_USER from the client c

[fossil-users] https proxy tunnel

2013-10-26 Thread Jan Danielsson
Hello, The jan-httpsproxytunnel branch has been tested on NetBSD, Mac OS X, Linux and Windows against three different proxies, at two very different environments, and it is working well. Feedback from people more accustomed to the world of http proxies would be appreciated. /Jan ___

Re: [fossil-users] http-proxy + https

2013-10-07 Thread Jan Danielsson
;. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

[fossil-users] http-proxy + https

2013-09-29 Thread Jan Danielsson
been -- so slight rewiring is required. The usual check, to avoid duplicate work: Is anyone else working on this already? Is anyone planning on touching the ssl and/or http-proxy code in the very near future? -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital sign

Re: [fossil-users] Control artifact types [Was: Minor new feature: comments when closing/re-opening]

2013-08-23 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 08/23/13 18:10, Stephan Beal wrote: > THANK YOU Mark - i wasn't paying attention. Jan, i'll send you the NEW > password off-list. For a short moment there I thought "This has to be the most trusting community EVER!". :) -- Ki

Re: [fossil-users] How to ignore UNIX executables?

2013-08-15 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 8/15/13 3:23 PM, John Long wrote: > Hi, is it possible to ignore UNIX executables? I want to do an addr on a > directory tree but I don't know how to tell fossil not to track the binaries > since they have no naming pattern. Until now I've been living with it but it > is very annoying and time f

Re: [fossil-users] self-hosted Fossil for a team

2013-08-10 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 8/11/13 2:07 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > So . . . let's say I have a server (running FreeBSD, and I'll probably > be setting this up in a jail) and a router that can forward ports > (already has SSH forwarded to this server). For argument's sake, let's > say we're confined to only one port per pro

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil on cygwin64

2013-07-25 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 7/25/13 2:10 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > Move to banish __CYGWIN__ from both Fossil and SQLite sources. Do I have a > second? Seconded. /Jan ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bi

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil on cygwin64

2013-07-25 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 7/25/13 2:05 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote: [---] >> "grep" tells me that there are 33 instances of the __CYGWIN__ macro in >> Fossil, in 8 different files. So if you use "sed" to change them all to >> __CYGWIN_OFF_ (or something else harmless) and then do "./configure; make", >> does it wor

Re: [fossil-users] Side-by-side diff improvement

2013-07-06 Thread Jan Danielsson
/joelface.com/fossil/fdiff?v1=98aec3c55155011b&v2=d74d0c320c455abd&sbs=1(you > can click anywhere inside a diff and use the left/right arrow keys to > scroll) I instantly can't live without it. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson signature.asc

Re: [fossil-users] Did you know that Fossil could do...

2013-05-28 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 5/28/13 3:08 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > Survey: How many people know that in the web-based timeline for Fossil, > you can click on any two nodes in the graph and get a diff between those > two nodes? I knew about it. When I read the first paragraph I was afraid you were about to suggest remo

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil 1.25

2013-01-18 Thread Jan Danielsson
nd it easily if you look for it), which should be somewhere in your "Start"-menu (under the Visual Studio folder). It'll set up the environment, and you'll be able to build fossil. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-31 Thread Jan Danielsson
od in my book. Nico and Joerg have made it clear to me, as a "rebase n00b", that there's a very fossil way to have rebase. And if I read Michal Suchanek correctly, we could even do it better than the arch-typical example of rebase (git). ..and I hope Nico's construc

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-31 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 12/31/12 11:17, Nico Williams wrote: [---] > But I feel I must at least address this > insinuation that I was trolling. It's obvious that you aren't trolling. You don't have to defend yourself against such nonsense. -- Kind re

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-19 Thread Jan Danielsson
to limited clones -- but there's also a point in limiting the size of the transfer, so the limited clone feels like a better "first try" project, since it *definitely* solves one issue, and _may_ solve another one. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson _

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-18 Thread Jan Danielsson
e. > not that this would matter for 99.9% of all projects. Definitely true. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-18 Thread Jan Danielsson
ame to fossil from bazaar which I abandoned because it had scalability issues (which were even worse), so it's not an exclusive fossil-problem. (git isn't affected by this though, but it's noteworthy that the NetBSD project on github is (was?) imported fro

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-15 Thread Jan Danielsson
regular basis and I > really do not care what they do. Sorry. You're missing the point; whatever problems with the actual implementation, somehow others have managed to work around them and made systems which work and that people are happy wi

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-15 Thread Jan Danielsson
works just like "fossil rm -f" So, you'll be able to continue doing exactly what you are doing sans s/rm/unmanage/. Everyone gets the behavior they want; others who previously opposed real mv/rm seem to think that the latest suggestion was a good comp

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-15 Thread Jan Danielsson
ever check in (clever) and then decide to stop tracking the files > and issue 'fossil rm' assuming the files are left alone on disk and only > then discover they were not). the transition period should guarantee > that this will not evelove into a real-world problem I'd s

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-15 Thread Jan Danielsson
ected "relocate" and "obliterate" to be a database only operations. For me, then rather than two commands which has behavior which doesn't make sense, we'd have four. I vote no, and again reaffirm my vote for the suggestion drh wrote last night (local time). -- Kin

Re: [fossil-users] Obvious solution to the rm/mv problem?

2012-12-14 Thread Jan Danielsson
uot;fossil delete" > > Stage 2 (after a stage 1 has been released for a while): > (e) "fossil rm" works just like "fossil rm -f" I vote "Yes" to all the above. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-14 Thread Jan Danielsson
. Rather than to talk about affecting real lives and how much money is involved and other irrelevant nonsense, post those exact SCM definitions which are relevant to the mv/rm issues and we can judge that information directly. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___

[fossil-users] Obvious solution to the rm/mv problem?

2012-12-14 Thread Jan Danielsson
- is there any reason we can't have both? mv/rm - change to principle of least surprise move/remove - behaves like current mv/rm That way we all get what we want .. no? -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailin

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-14 Thread Jan Danielsson
that I don't know what a VCS is or > should do. > > Done with this thread. Keep it classy, detractors. 100% agree. I must say, I'm not quite as fond of the fossil community as I once was. I have no interest in being insu

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-14 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 12/14/12 00:23, Richard Hipp wrote: > But, should there be an opt-in option to also make the disk changes? Yes -- definitely. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fos

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-13 Thread Jan Danielsson
of the cons?". I don't think there are many annoyances with fossil, so the mv/rm behavior is a relatively minor issue in the grand scheme of things, but still -- could we make it do all of the work, not just half of it, I would be pleased and have one less "con" in my list. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-13 Thread Jan Danielsson
can be retrieve from previous version on the repository. What's "unsafe" with that behavior compared to the behavior we have today? -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-13 Thread Jan Danielsson
the requested filesystem operations immediately, and a few people are really upset about it. I could write a wrapper script for those uses which does essentially the following: cp $file $file.tmp fossil rm $file mv $file.tmp $file That way, people can still do it in two separate ste

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the "real" thing?

2012-12-11 Thread Jan Danielsson
in fossil to get the canonical behavior?). I too am a little skeptical about adding too many settings to fossil, but this is definitely one that I would think merits a setting if the current (default) behavior is kept in 2.0. Sorry if this came out as a rant; i

[fossil-users] "click timeline to diff"

2012-11-30 Thread Jan Danielsson
Hey, I know it's "only" a short-cut for something which we could do before. But I love this new feature; it's one of those "I didn't know how much I wanted it until I started using it", and now I won't be able to live without it. Fantastic fe

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil as DLL?

2012-11-26 Thread Jan Danielsson
ary play nice on 64-bit Windows it would be great. Anyone know if there's a trivial fix? -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] What is the reason to have status and extras command at same time

2012-09-14 Thread Jan Danielsson
n my source tree, and "fossil extras" just shows me all the gazillion files doxygen created. Try living with it for a while and see if you change your mind. I did. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [fossil-users] Support for Win9x?

2012-09-13 Thread Jan Danielsson
ssil users" is roughly empty. Tag last win95-compatible version so anyone so inclined can dig it up easily, just in case? -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ fossil-users mailing list fossi

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-06 Thread Jan Danielsson
t-in wiki and ticket system): I think it's easier to read/parse (mentally) and write than any wiki syntax I've seen so far. And even if we get a nice WYSIWYG editor for the web interface (in theory rendering the stored format irrelevant), I'll still be sitting writing wiki docume

[fossil-users] Scalability

2012-03-16 Thread Jan Danielsson
ver being overloaded, but when I finally got all of it downloaded to one of my servers, I tried to pull it to other systems from there, but I'm running into the "504 Gateway Time-out" problem here as well (and this particular server has lots of time to spare). Any

Re: [fossil-users] feature proposal: explicitly public branches

2012-02-25 Thread Jan Danielsson
feature. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] autosetup build issues

2012-02-19 Thread Jan Danielsson
lightly modified version of the final link command line I got what I wanted. And if anyone else needs/wants it, the information is easily found via a web search. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.or

Re: [fossil-users] autosetup build issues

2012-02-19 Thread Jan Danielsson
laris systems, and I want to be able to build one fossil binary and move it around; so there's a practical reason for my battle with static builds on Solaris). > Can we address the dynamic configure/build issues, and then possibly >

Re: [fossil-users] Building fossil on Solaris

2012-02-19 Thread Jan Danielsson
get about the details two months from now when I want to redo it all, which is why I'm looking for a more automatic solution. :) -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

[fossil-users] autosetup build issues

2012-02-18 Thread Jan Danielsson
bout dynamically linking when it was explicitly requested by the users that static linking be used. At the same time, the way I look at it, the project should build and run on standard OS installations, with as few separate dependencies as possible. Input is welcome. -- Kind regards, Jan Da

Re: [fossil-users] Building fossil on Solaris

2012-02-17 Thread Jan Danielsson
t;, and simply told it to always add those extra libraries to LIBS, but it didn't, so I assume it's the build system I don't understand). Any help is appreciated. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@li

Re: [fossil-users] Building fossil on Solaris

2012-02-16 Thread Jan Danielsson
a few times before. (Yes, I know Solaris technically does it right, and I respect that, but it's getting a little old running into this problem every five-six months or so). Thanks! -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fo

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