Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Prince Riley wrote: > > I just took this snapshot of the www.eclipse.org kanding page .. you say you > weren't able to find a clear download link lol .. ok well it appears > directly in the center of the page ... hehehe... Yes it seems funny now, but like I

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Prince Riley wrote: > > I find that very interesting. The Eclipse group has redesigned the web site > and it now has a much cleaner and easier to navigate 'front door' that leads > most visitors directly to the major Java or Rich Client IDE. OK, I just went to th

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Prince Riley schrieb: > Graeme > > I just took this snapshot of the www.eclipse.org > kanding page .. you say you weren't able to > find a clear download link lol .. ok well it appears directly in > the center of the page ... > > Let me know what you think after you

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Gerard N/A schrieb: > www.eclipse.org > On the upper menu, 5th item, "downloads". > Then choose whatever you wnat to download, and choose the mirror, and > the download starts. > lazarus.freepascal.org on the other way seldom works lately and when > it does it's so slow it can't be used. Well, thi

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Hello, Please also move this Eclipse discussion to fpc-other (unless it's specifically on how to set up Eclipse for use with FPC or so). Thanks, Jonas FPC lists moderator ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.fre

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Graeme, I find that very interesting. The Eclipse group has redesigned the web site and it now has a much cleaner and easier to navigate 'front door' that leads most visitors directly to the major Java or Rich Client IDE. Prince On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 11:56 +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > That project is such a mess (my personal opinion). Just the other day > I wanted to download the Eclipse IDE, to see what has changed over the > last few years since I looked at it. Well, after browsing their > website for 30 minutes,

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:07:31PM -0600, Prince Riley wrote: > Thank you for your reply. > > Eclipse was first released as a Java development IDE several years ago, but > if you take a look at the Eclipse web site www.eclipse.org you'll see that > since then Eclipse has evolved and been extended

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Hi Graeme, On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Prince Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That project is such a mess (my personal opinion). Just the other day > I wanted to download the Eclipse IDE, to see what has chan

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

In our previous episode, Prince Riley said: > Thank you for your reply. > > Eclipse was first released as a Java development IDE several years ago, but > if you take a look at the Eclipse web site www.eclipse.org you'll see that > since then Eclipse has evolved and been extended to support Ruby, P

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Prince Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eclipse was first released as a Java development IDE several years ago, but > if you take a look at the Eclipse web site www.eclipse.org you'll see that > since then Eclipse has evolved and been extended to support Ruby, Py

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Thank you for your reply. Eclipse was first released as a Java development IDE several years ago, but if you take a look at the Eclipse web site www.eclipse.org you'll see that since then Eclipse has evolved and been extended to support Ruby, Python, C/C++. The suggestion I was making is there is

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

In our previous episode, Prince Riley said: > > Like ti weigh in on this thread in the discussion regarding increasing the > GUI-ness of FP. > Has anyone looked into writing an Eclipse plug-in for FP (as an was done for > Python and Ruby)? Afaik there was a more editor like plugin at one time. B

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Andrew Haines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just checked out fpwm and updated it and fpgui locally so it can compile. > It does almost nothing atm but can reparent and close windows :) not alot. I > was thinking I might write a widget for resizing and moving windo

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Hello Like ti weigh in on this thread in the discussion regarding increasing the GUI-ness of FP. Has anyone looked into writing an Eclipse plug-in for FP (as an was done for Python and Ruby)? Given the huge base of Eclipse users this might be a way to reach the goal with both a better developer t

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you want to do some large work to increase the use of FPC I would recommend creating a Window Manager instead, probably with fpgui. How far did you guys get with the 'fpwm

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How far did you guys get with the 'fpwm' project? Did it actually run > at some point. I see the last code changes was 2 years ago. I think it was able to run, but wouldn't do much. Too many other tasks at hand, and t

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Skybuck Flying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. Using automatic conversion from C to Pascal but then the code would still > have to be checked by humans. I can just imagine it will generate ugly code. I would much rather imagine that a clean design with a good obje

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ? Skybuck Flying schreef: If everybody does a little bit it could go quite quickly. Some (arbitrary numbers) from http://www.ohloh.net/p/linux: Codebase 10,679,927 lines Effort (est.) 3,396 Person Years So, if everybody on thi

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

>> How could Linus Torvalds write the core of Linux in rather short time, single-handed, if it is such a huge task just to port it? Because he didn't really write it from scratch, instead he just improves what's already there (Unix source code, maybe?) and poing! Linux comes up. -- View this me

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Marc Santhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It has happened in the past. There has been OS/2 for example, with it's > superior OO design. RIP. Ah yes... I surely miss OS/2! The Workplace Shell was awesome. Drag-and-Drop and Customization was awesome! Regards,

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want to do some large work to increase the use of FPC I would > recommend creating a Window Manager instead, probably with fpgui. How far did you guys get with the 'fpwm' project? Did it actually run a

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Skybuck Flying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If everybody does a little bit it could go quite quickly. > > Question is: > > Which linux distro ? ;) Well, you said "porting linux". Linux to be only references the Kernel only. That is the real OS part. All the other s

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Hello Everyone, While I can't honestly say I share any enthusiasm for writing a OS in FreePascal, I do think there is merit in looking for projects of similar scope and interest that can demonstrate the power of the language and the tremendous tools that have been developed by this group over the

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

Am Freitag, den 05.12.2008, 17:40 +0100 schrieb Ingemar Ragnemalm: > Now everything must have inherited design > flaws from C just because of what was available in the 80's. This is one strong argument against porting Lunix to Pascal, isn't it? Porting means sort of translating old design flaws t

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Ingemar Ragnemalm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So the KDE and Gnome projects are language-locked? Yes, they are. > (How? Surely users don't select software by language? Users don't care, but they usually use what comes with their distro and window manager, so if K

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

Leonardo M. Ram? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Guillermo Martínez Jiménez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By the way, Linux is good as it is now and Pascal isn't the best option to create an operating system. Are you sure? doesn't older MacOS's versions where written in

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Ingemar Ragnemalm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is an argument only after considering the time versus the goal. Is the > goal worth the time? > No, and that was exactly my point. Life is too short to spend it rewriting Linux in Pascal. > > Another goal is to

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

If you want to do some large work to increase the use of FPC I would recommend creating a Window Manager instead, probably with fpgui. The work is imensely smaller, althougth still large, and a window manager usually comes with lot's of useful gui software, so this would be an opportunity to distr

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Hello all, > Skybuck Flying schreef: > > If everybody does a little bit it could go quite quickly. > > Some (arbitrary numbers) from http://www.ohloh.net/p/linux: > Codebase 10,679,927 lines > Effort (est.) 3,396 Person Years > > So, if everybody on this list (maybe 300 persons) work

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

Skybuck Flying schreef: If everybody does a little bit it could go quite quickly. Some (arbitrary numbers) from http://www.ohloh.net/p/linux: Codebase 10,679,927 lines Effort (est.) 3,396 Person Years So, if everybody on this list (maybe 300 persons) work on it, then it can be done

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

If everybody does a little bit it could go quite quickly. Question is: Which linux distro ? ;) Maybe even some BSD version so that closed-source os-es could be done as well. Though I onced tried FreeBSD... I couldn't even figure out the gui or how to start an app.. So maybe linux more use

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be, possible ?

"Skybuck Flying" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, An open source pascal operating system could be cool. Would translating/porting linux to pascal be possible ? Absolutely. Most of Unix is plain C, which translates well to Pascal. C++ is harder, of course. "Gerard N/A" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

>> An open source pascal operating system could be cool. There are already such projects (including mine :-)). Search google code and sourceforge. >> Would translating/porting linux to pascal be possible ? Yes, but who would? And if he/she would, does he/she have the time? -- View this messag

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

What is the use anyhow? 2008/12/4 Skybuck Flying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello, > > An open source pascal operating system could be cool. > > Would translating/porting linux to pascal be possible ? > > Bye, > Skybuck. > ___ > fpc-pascal maillist - fpc

Re: [fpc-pascal] Porting linux to pascal, would it be possible ?

As with many things, it only depends of the time you have. But as you grow older you get a different idea of life expectancy and the use of your remaing time. Regards, Gerard. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.free