Hey all:
I am currently attending a three-day FrameMaker workshop. Here's the
setup -- we all have our own computer, and next to our computer is a
screen showing the instructor's computer screen. So, the instructor
was researching a question, and he said, ok, here is the answer, and
I look up
You sound as if you are having entirely too much fun. Remember, it's a
Framemaker workshop...Kelly.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deirdre
Reagan
Sent: 2008-06-10 10:48
To: Frame Users
Subject: Funny story
Hey all:
I am
Hello All,
I'm using Frame 7.2p158 on Windows XP.
I'm having an issue with text frames on a graphic. I need to place
some text frames to use as part labels on a graphic. I've created some
text frames and entered in the text I need for some of the callouts.
I've then tried to move
I believe you need to set the runaround properties of the graphic to None.
~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates
Linda,
That seems to apply to graphics when you're placing them inside a
text frame on a page and you want that text to flow (or not, as the case
may be) around the anchored frame. In this case, I'm trying to get a
text frame (used for callouts) to display correctly on top of a graphic
placed
Sam Beard wrote:
Linda,
That seems to apply to graphics when you're placing them inside a
text frame on a page and you want that text to flow (or not, as the
case
may be) around the anchored frame. In this case, I'm trying to get a
text frame (used for callouts) to display correctly on
Please try it. I know what the function is supposed to be for, but I'm quite
certain it fixed the problem.
Rick Quatro even has a plug-in (that I use) to fix this problem throughout
an existing book and for every new graphic you add.
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/runaroundnone/index.htm
Has anyone found a fix for shrink wrap (Esc m p) that either leaves the
anchored frame in place or has a config option so it can be changed from
At Insertion Point to something else?...thanks, Kelly.
Kelly M. McDaniel
Information Developer III
Pavilion Technologies
A Rockwell Automation
Linda,
Okay, I tried that when you first replied, but it didn't do anything
to fix it. So, after reading your second message, I tried again, this
time selecting just the graphic and not the anchored frame it was in,
and it seems to have solved the problem! So, thank you VERY much for the
Richard,
I just responded to Linda's second post, saying that I misunderstood
her and tried to change the properties on the anchored frame, versus on
the graphic itself. After clicking on the graphic and selecting
Runaround Properties and changing it to Don't Run Around, the problem
seems
It might not be relevant in your situation, but you don't really need a
text frame to add callouts on top of a graphic. Just use the text tool
on the graphics toolbar. You can change the font, size, and color as
necessary. You can also add arrows and simple shapes.
Clint
Clint Owen
Technical
Do a quick google for shrinkwrapasis plugin -- and try it out --
it's available on several sites.
Art
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Kelly McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone found a fix for shrink wrap (Esc m p) that either leaves the
anchored frame in place or has a config option
Dear Framers,
I am trying to save lots of .fm files as .xml in FM 7.2.
I've written an application and when I save a single .fm file as .xml it works
fine.
When I use the Utility: File Utilities Convert structured documents,
something goes wrong.
The conversion runs fine but the 'href'
I've recently inherited a doc set that uses 50 conditions, most of which are
nested and/or multiple. The previous writer thought this was the best way to
support 30 developers and 26 guides. I'm finding that this method is seriously
prone to error as evidenced by text for guide A displaying in
Found it. Works great!...tnx, Kelly.
-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2008-06-10 12:46
To: Kelly McDaniel
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Esc m p
Do a quick google for shrinkwrapasis plugin -- and try it out --
it's available on several sites.
Clint,
Thanks for that. Yes, I'm aware that text lines would also work, but
they wouldn't work quite as well in this case. For one thing, the
callouts are text instead of a simply a number/letter that's defined
elsewhere. Secondly, the callouts have more than a single line, which is
where the
True, but the text-frame approach gives you more control over the
formatting of all of your callouts.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:42 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Text
Huh. This Esc m p feature doesn't cause the anchored frame to change to At
Insertion Point in my FM7.2 on XP SP2, and I do not have ShrinkWrapAsIs.dll.
Does Bruce Foster's ImpGraph.dll fix the Esc m p problem, too?
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Art Campbell [EMAIL
Don't know. Art?
Art for art's sake.
From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2008-06-10 14:30
To: Art Campbell; Kelly McDaniel
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Esc m p
Huh. This Esc m p feature doesn't cause the anchored frame to change
to At
I suppose that doesn't happen on Rene's system because he's changed
his configuration somehow, Kelly, but no way of knowing long distance.
If he has another .dll in place that manages graphic imports... that
could certainly be it, but unless you got Bruce's .dll and tested some
I don't know how
Rene Stephenson wrote:
Huh. This Esc m p feature doesn't cause the anchored frame to
change to At Insertion Point in my FM7.2 on XP SP2, and I do not have
ShrinkWrapAsIs.dll. Does Bruce Foster's ImpGraph.dll fix the Esc m p
problem, too?
Yes.
ImpGraph is a shareware plugin for FrameMaker
Hi
Not Frame related, but I thought some of the Mac users might be able to
help. My wife is a teacher and uses a Mac at school. She has bought an
educational program that imports digital images, but only as bmp files.
Because she wants to import photos taken on a digital camera, she needs
Hi,
Question: What features am I giving up by going with MS Word? Text insets?
Conditional text?
I'm a contractor for a very small startup that has a limited budget. I've
been tasked to create their online help. They currently have manuals in MS
Word, though no styles/tags are being used yet.
Framers,
This is my first try at using the new track edits feature in FM 8. Maybe you
can't do it, but is there a way to turn it on in all files in a book? Seems
awfully tedious to do in every file.
Thanks!
~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot
You're asking a biased audience here...
IMO if they want a quality product then they should use the right tool
for the job. If their docs are in MS Word without styles, then I would
dispute the assertion that they know how to use MS Word.
With FM, Acrobat, and Mif2Go you can generate printed
Dave,
First thing we need to know is what version of Mac OS is she using.
Also, you might be able to use something in the software that comes with
the digital camera she's using. Not knowing this info, I can't say for
sure. I'm not on a Mac here at work, but I have one at home. It's
possible
I would suggest looking through this page's references
http://members.shaw.ca/philip.sharman/fm_v_wd.html
Alan
Angela Akridge wrote:
Hi,
Question: What features am I giving up by going with MS Word? Text insets?
Conditional text?
I'm a contractor for a very small startup that has a limited
Dave,
Graphic Convertor is good for this kind of thing, and chances are that her
educational district may have an educational license for it. But it is demo'd
at http://www.lemkesoft.com/
Preview saves images as BMP, plus many others.
Alan
Dave Reynolds wrote:
Hi
Not Frame related, but I
I'd agree with John...
You're in the right position to put them on the right track, for a
not-too-big investment. But if the argument is that they don't have
the time or cash to do it right the first time, you may want to look
elsewhere for a better opportunity. If they don't get started
Angela Akridge wrote:
I'm a contractor for a very small startup that has a limited budget.
I've
been tasked to create their online help. They currently have manuals
in MS
Word, though no styles/tags are being used yet.
They have no permanent writer, and they can't afford one at this time.
Oh, great. I'll check it out. I do have FrameScript.
Thanks!
~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates
On 10 Jun 2008, at 22:04, Dave Reynolds wrote:
Not Frame related, but I thought some of the Mac users might be
able to
help. My wife is a teacher and uses a Mac at school. She has
bought an
educational program that imports digital images, but only as bmp
files.
As Alan says,
OK, but that was in 2001. Ah well life on the web.
Anyway, links that work (Googled word vs framemaker):
www.freeframers.org/inframe/archive/files/vol1/1-2/wordvsfm2.pdf
http://www.front-runner.com/pages/support/files/fm_vs_w_ar.pdf
Hi Ang,
You're kidding me, right? You are actually considering Word instead of FM?
We use both here, but are working away from Word, manual by manual. The
Word templates were created from my FM templates. I converted FM to Word
with Mif2Go. Yay Jeremy!
Just my 2c worth, but if there are no
Sorry for asking the RH 7 question on the FM list. But I am caught in a
terrible situation. I have a Word document with multiple sections. There are
multiple headers and footers. This Word document also has screenshots. Now when
I import this document into RH7, all screenshots (images) fail to
Hey all:
I am currently attending a three-day FrameMaker workshop. Here's the
setup -- we all have our own computer, and next to our computer is a
screen showing the instructor's computer screen. So, the instructor
was researching a question, and he said, "ok, here is the answer," and
I look up
You sound as if you are having entirely too much fun. Remember, it's a
Framemaker workshop...Kelly.
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
Reagan
> Sent: 2008-06-10 10:48
> To: Frame Users
Hello All,
I'm using Frame 7.2p158 on Windows XP.
I'm having an issue with text frames on a graphic. I need to place
some text frames to use as part labels on a graphic. I've created some
text frames and entered in the text I need for some of the callouts.
I've then tried to move them
I believe you need to set the runaround properties of the graphic to None.
~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates
Linda,
That seems to apply to graphics when you're placing them inside a
text frame on a page and you want that text to flow (or not, as the case
may be) around the anchored frame. In this case, I'm trying to get a
text frame (used for callouts) to display correctly on top of a graphic
placed
Sam Beard wrote:
> Linda,
>
>That seems to apply to graphics when you're placing them inside a
> text frame on a page and you want that text to flow (or not, as the
case
> may be) around the anchored frame. In this case, I'm trying to get a
> text frame (used for callouts) to display
Please try it. I know what the function is supposed to be for, but I'm quite
certain it fixed the problem.
Rick Quatro even has a plug-in (that I use) to fix this problem throughout
an existing book and for every new graphic you add.
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/runaroundnone/index.htm
Has anyone found a fix for shrink wrap (Esc m p) that either leaves the
anchored frame in place or has a config option so it can be changed from
At Insertion Point to something else?...thanks, Kelly.
Kelly M. McDaniel
Information Developer III
Pavilion Technologies
A Rockwell Automation
Linda,
Okay, I tried that when you first replied, but it didn't do anything
to fix it. So, after reading your second message, I tried again, this
time selecting just the graphic and not the anchored frame it was in,
and it seems to have solved the problem! So, thank you VERY much for the
Richard,
I just responded to Linda's second post, saying that I misunderstood
her and tried to change the properties on the anchored frame, versus on
the graphic itself. After clicking on the graphic and selecting
Runaround Properties and changing it to Don't Run Around, the problem
seems
It might not be relevant in your situation, but you don't really need a
text frame to add callouts on top of a graphic. Just use the text tool
on the graphics toolbar. You can change the font, size, and color as
necessary. You can also add arrows and simple shapes.
Clint
Clint Owen
Technical
Do a quick google for "shrinkwrapasis plugin" -- and try it out --
it's available on several sites.
Art
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Kelly McDaniel
wrote:
> Has anyone found a fix for shrink wrap (Esc m p) that either leaves the
> anchored frame in place or has a config option so it can be
Dear Framers,
I am trying to save lots of .fm files as .xml in FM 7.2.
I've written an application and when I save a single .fm file as .xml it works
fine.
When I use the Utility: File > Utilities > Convert structured documents,
something goes wrong.
The conversion runs fine but the 'href'
I've recently inherited a doc set that uses 50 conditions, most of which are
nested and/or multiple. The previous writer thought this was the best way to
support 30 developers and 26 guides. I'm finding that this method is seriously
prone to error as evidenced by text for guide A displaying in
Found it. Works great!...tnx, Kelly.
> -Original Message-
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com]
> Sent: 2008-06-10 12:46
> To: Kelly McDaniel
> Cc: Frame Users
> Subject: Re: Esc m p
>
> Do a quick google for "shrinkwrapasis plugin" -- and try it out --
> it's available
Clint,
Thanks for that. Yes, I'm aware that text lines would also work, but
they wouldn't work quite as well in this case. For one thing, the
callouts are text instead of a simply a number/letter that's defined
elsewhere. Secondly, the callouts have more than a single line, which is
where the
True, but the text-frame approach gives you more control over the
formatting of all of your callouts.
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:42 PM
To: framers
Huh. This Esc m p "feature" doesn't cause the anchored frame to change to At
Insertion Point in my FM7.2 on XP SP2, and I do not have ShrinkWrapAsIs.dll.
Does Bruce Foster's ImpGraph.dll fix the Esc m p problem, too?
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Art Campbell
Don't know. Art?
Art for art's sake.
From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:rinn...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 2008-06-10 14:30
To: Art Campbell; Kelly McDaniel
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Esc m p
Huh. This Esc m p "feature" doesn't cause the anchored frame to change
to At
I suppose that doesn't happen on Rene's system because he's changed
his configuration somehow, Kelly, but no way of knowing long distance.
If he has another .dll in place that manages graphic imports... that
could certainly be it, but unless you got Bruce's .dll and tested some
I don't know how
Rene Stephenson wrote:
> Huh. This Esc m p "feature" doesn't cause the anchored frame to
> change to At Insertion Point in my FM7.2 on XP SP2, and I do not have
> ShrinkWrapAsIs.dll. Does Bruce Foster's ImpGraph.dll fix the Esc m p
> problem, too?
>
Yes.
"ImpGraph is a shareware plugin for
Hi,
Question: What features am I giving up by going with MS Word? Text insets?
Conditional text?
I'm a contractor for a very small startup that has a limited budget. I've
been tasked to create their online help. They currently have manuals in MS
Word, though no styles/tags are being used yet.
Framers,
This is my first try at using the new track edits feature in FM 8. Maybe you
can't do it, but is there a way to turn it on in all files in a book? Seems
awfully tedious to do in every file.
Thanks!
~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot
You're asking a biased audience here...
IMO if they want a quality product then they should use the right tool
for the job. If their docs are in MS Word without styles, then I would
dispute the assertion that they know how to use MS Word.
With FM, Acrobat, and Mif2Go you can generate printed
This question just cropped up on the Adobe user forum, and one guy
posted a bit of FrameScript code that does this...
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b4b854?14 If you have,
FrameScript.
Art
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Linda G. Gallagher
wrote:
> Framers,
>
> This is my first try at
Dave,
First thing we need to know is what version of Mac OS is she using.
Also, you might be able to use something in the software that comes with
the digital camera she's using. Not knowing this info, I can't say for
sure. I'm not on a Mac here at work, but I have one at home. It's
possible
I'd agree with John...
You're in the right position to put them on the right track, for a
not-too-big investment. But if the argument is that they don't have
the time or cash to do it right the first time, you may want to look
elsewhere for a better opportunity. If they don't get started
Angela Akridge wrote:
> I'm a contractor for a very small startup that has a limited budget.
I've
> been tasked to create their online help. They currently have manuals
in MS
> Word, though no styles/tags are being used yet.
>
> They have no permanent writer, and they can't afford one at this
GraphicConvertor
http://www.lemkesoft.com/
...Kelly.
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sam Beard
> Sent: 2008-06-10 16:17
> To: Dave Reynolds; FrameUsers List
> Subject: RE: free
Oh, great. I'll check it out. I do have FrameScript.
Thanks!
~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates
Hi Sam,
You need to Control+Click on the graphic and choose Graphics > Runaround
Properties. Set the value to Don't Run Around and click Set.
Unfortunately, the default for imported graphics is to have the Runaround
set to Run around Contour. You might want to look at my RunaroundNone
plugin,
Hi Ang,
You're kidding me, right? You are actually considering Word instead of FM?
We use both here, but are working away from Word, manual by manual. The
Word templates were created from my FM templates. I converted FM to Word
with Mif2Go. Yay Jeremy!
Just my 2c worth, but if there are no
Sorry for asking the RH 7 question on the FM list. But I am caught in a
terrible situation. I have a Word document with multiple sections. There are
multiple headers and footers. This Word document also has screenshots. Now when
I import this document into RH7, all screenshots (images) fail to
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