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Sent: 2012-12-10-Monday 10:34
To: Alan Houser; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Running FrameMaker on Mac workstations
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
>An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's
PDF-format user manuals, you w
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
>An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's PDF-format user
>manuals, you will still see FrameMaker 6 and 7 with surprising frequency.
I am still using it here, as it does all that I need. Trouble is, it's locking
me into OS X 10.4
At 05:57 -0700 10/12/12, wrote:
>Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
>"PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
>workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
>York, "Not for nothin', but . . ."
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 10:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Running FrameMaker o
: 2012-12-10-Monday 10:34
To: Alan Houser; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Running FrameMaker on Mac workstations
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
>An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's
PDF-format user manuals, you will still see FrameMaker
: 2012-12-10-Monday 10:34
To: Alan Houser; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Running FrameMaker on Mac workstations
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
>An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's
PDF-format user manuals, you will still see FrameMaker 6 an
Others have answered this question pretty well. Just to add anecdotal
experience, I and several other FrameMaker consultants/trainers have
been working almost exclusively on the Mac platform for some time, using
either Parallels or VMware Fusion to run MacOS and Windows concurrently.
I've been
Subject: Running FrameMaker on Mac workstations
2012-12-10-01T12:55Z
All -
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
"PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say
> From: Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com
>
> Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
> "PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
> workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
> York, "Not for nothin', but
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
>An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's PDF-format user
>manuals, you will still see FrameMaker 6 and 7 with surprising frequency.
I am still using it here, as it does all that I need. Trouble is, it's locking
me into OS X 10.4
Others have answered this question
pretty well. Just to add anecdotal experience, I and several other
FrameMaker consultants/trainers have been working almost
exclusively on the Mac platform for some time, using either
Parallels or VMware Fusion to run MacOS and W
2012-12-10-01T12:55Z
All -
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
"PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
York, "Not for nothin', but?.?.?." please a
: Running FrameMaker on Mac workstations
2012-12-10-01T12:55Z
All -
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
"PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the C
> From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com
>
> Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
> "PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
> workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
> York, "Not for nothin', but . .
At 05:57 -0700 10/12/12, wrote:
>Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
>"PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
>workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
>York, "Not for nothin', but . . ."
2012-12-10-01T12:55Z
All -
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
"PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
York, "Not for nothin', but . . ." please a
> You missed a post or two somewhere along the line. I'm not talking about dual
> boot. Follow the link. http://www.parallels.com/
> This is virtualization, not, booting to windows. I don't want either, but
> dual booting is more inconvenient than virtual platforms.
>
Yes, I did miss a post or t
> You missed a post or two somewhere along the line. I'm not talking about dual
> boot. Follow the link. http://www.parallels.com/
> This is virtualization, not, booting to windows. I don't want either, but
> dual booting is more inconvenient than virtual platforms.
>
Yes, I did miss a post or t
At 12:50 PM -0700 4/7/06, David Creamer wrote:
> > P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.
>
>It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
>Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
>It is actually running
I think more to your point might be: If Apple is making most of its
money in the music
business, how much incentive is there to continue to develop Mac aps
and other software
Art
On 4/7/06, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> I was at IPEX on Wednesday, the big 4-yearly UK show for the printing and
>
Much more interesting to Mac Framemaker users than Apple's Boot Camp
are Parallels' XP emulator (now shipping beta) and -- especially --
the Open Source project for something called "Darwine". Based on
Wine, a Linux project, Darwine will allow a user to run a Windows
application under OS
I'm repeating a post I made yesterday, but this will obviate the procedures
listed below.
This is preferable to a dual boot scenario.
http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/04/06/parallels/index.php
- web
At 11:28 AM -0500 4/7/06, Peter Gold wrote:
>One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) no
Much more interesting to Mac Framemaker users than Apple's Boot Camp
are Parallels' XP emulator (now shipping beta) and -- especially --
the Open Source project for something called "Darwine". Based on
Wine, a Linux project, Darwine will allow a user to run a Windows
application under OS
At 12:50 PM -0700 4/7/06, David Creamer wrote:
> > P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.
>
>It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
>Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
>It is actually running
> P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.
It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
It is actually running Windows on the computer.
As a trainer, I look forwa
> P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.
It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
It is actually running Windows on the computer.
As a trainer, I look forwa
A good work around may be to install a second hard drive and reserve
it for data, possibly from both OSes...
Art
On 4/7/06, Peter Gold wrote:
> One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you
> format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from
> both OSs, bu
I think more to your point might be: If Apple is making most of its
money in the music
business, how much incentive is there to continue to develop Mac aps
and other software
Art
On 4/7/06, Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was at IPEX on Wednesday, the big 4-yearly UK show for t
One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you
format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from
both OSs, but the newer default XP format exceeds the limitations of
FAT32, so most users don't bother fighting the default.
So, you'd have to use a memory stic
A good work around may be to install a second hard drive and reserve
it for data, possibly from both OSes...
Art
On 4/7/06, Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you
> format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions
I'm repeating a post I made yesterday, but this will obviate the procedures
listed below.
This is preferable to a dual boot scenario.
http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/04/06/parallels/index.php
- web
At 11:28 AM -0500 4/7/06, Peter Gold wrote:
>One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) no
One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you
format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from
both OSs, but the newer default XP format exceeds the limitations of
FAT32, so most users don't bother fighting the default.
So, you'd have to use a memory sti
At 20:28 -0700 6/4/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
>Very mixed feelings here. As I understand it, you have to boot into either OS
>X or Windows which makes it more cumbersome than Classic. But Classic isn't an
>option on the new computers so once again, it's like it or lump it for Mac
>users.
Yes,
A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp
>>What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
Or would you have to
A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp
>>What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
Or would you have to c
At 20:28 -0700 6/4/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
>Very mixed feelings here. As I understand it, you have to boot into either OS
>X or Windows which makes it more cumbersome than Classic. But Classic isn't an
>option on the new computers so once again, it's like it or lump it for Mac
>users.
Yes,
At 5:13 PM -0400 4/6/06, Rick Quatro wrote:
>And I think that the increased popularity of OS X would cause Apple's hardware
>sales to increase as well.
Maybe, maybe not. That's the tough call. It didn't work in the "clone" era,
and I'm not sure it would now. Don't forget that Apple is first and
True, Apple is a hardware company, but the real money in computers is in
software. Just ask Bill Gates. The question is, how much hardware revenue
would Apple lose by such a move? Do people buy Apple for the hardware or for
the software experience? Hopefully, they would gain many customers that
On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:
Don't know if it will be good news to mac users or not... but it was
reported in the paper today that "Apple Computer Inc. released new
software yesterday that lets users of its newest computers run
Microsoft Corp.'s dominant Windows XP operati
On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>
> Don't know if it will be good news to mac users or not... but it was
> reported in the paper today that "Apple Computer Inc. released new
> software yesterday that lets users of its newest computers run
> Microsoft Corp.'s dominant Windows XP
True, Apple is a hardware company, but the real money in computers is in
software. Just ask Bill Gates. The question is, how much hardware revenue
would Apple lose by such a move? Do people buy Apple for the hardware or for
the software experience? Hopefully, they would gain many customers that
At 5:13 PM -0400 4/6/06, Rick Quatro wrote:
>And I think that the increased popularity of OS X would cause Apple's hardware
>sales to increase as well.
Maybe, maybe not. That's the tough call. It didn't work in the "clone" era,
and I'm not sure it would now. Don't forget that Apple is first and
Hi Bill,
I appreciate your comments, but I would rather keep my primary application
(FrameMaker), even if I had to run it on a "foreign" operating system like
Windows XP. The ability to run FrameMaker on the Mac via Windows may be a
compromise, but it has to be better than switching application
At this stage I wouldn't even speculate on what motivates Steve Jobs, or what
he's fanatical about. And that may have changed since his close brush with the
mortality (pancreatic cancer). One detects a change in his outlook.
I don't know that we Mac users are fanatics. I switched from windows a
Too bad Jobs isn't as much a Mac fanatic as Mac fanatics are
Art
On 4/6/06, Bill Briggs wrote:
> At 12:41 PM -0400 4/6/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
> >Bill Briggs wrote:
> >>At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
> >>>in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
> >>>use
At 12:41 PM -0400 4/6/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>Bill Briggs wrote:
>>At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
>>>in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
>>>user
>>
>>I'm surprised that a Mac user can say such a thing with a straight
>>face. I've got 13 years worth of Fra
Hi Bill,
I appreciate your comments, but I would rather keep my primary application
(FrameMaker), even if I had to run it on a "foreign" operating system like
Windows XP. The ability to run FrameMaker on the Mac via Windows may be a
compromise, but it has to be better than switching applicatio
ssage-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Bill Briggs
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on Mac
Too bad Jobs isn't as much a Mac fanatic as Mac fanatics are
Art
On 4/6/06, Bill Briggs <[EMAIL PROT
ssage-
From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Bill Briggs
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on Mac
Too bad Jobs isn't as much a M
At this stage I wouldn't even speculate on what motivates Steve Jobs, or what
he's fanatical about. And that may have changed since his close brush with the
mortality (pancreatic cancer). One detects a change in his outlook.
I don't know that we Mac users are fanatics. I switched from windows a
Bill Briggs wrote:
> At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
>> in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
>> user
>
> I'm surprised that a Mac user can say such a thing with a straight
> face. I've got 13 years worth of FrameMaker collateral on my Mac and
> it's a profou
Too bad Jobs isn't as much a Mac fanatic as Mac fanatics are
Art
On 4/6/06, Bill Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 12:41 PM -0400 4/6/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
> >Bill Briggs wrote:
> >>At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
> >>>in general I believe that this is a great time to be a
At 12:41 PM -0400 4/6/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>Bill Briggs wrote:
>>At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
>>>in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
>>>user
>>
>>I'm surprised that a Mac user can say such a thing with a straight
>>face. I've got 13 years worth of Fra
Bill Briggs wrote:
At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
user
I'm surprised that a Mac user can say such a thing with a straight
face. I've got 13 years worth of FrameMaker collateral on my Mac and
it's a profoundly unpleas
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