Re: Re: A Graphics Library...Why?

2010-06-22 Thread Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .
Thanks Edward. You and fellow Frame Templars have given me a bit to go on. The procedure is therethat's not the voidit's the "why" behind it. Why am I doing it? Is there a regulatory requirement? Is this "auditable" (is that a word?) Is there a Return on Investment (ROI)? Again, so many

Re: OT: RE: Graphics Tool functionality

2005-11-30 Thread Peter Gold
At 8:35 AM -0500 11/30/05, Rene S. wrote: Maybe I missed something with Irfanview. I found a way to print a sheet of thumbnails (which ACDSee also does), but I couldn't find a way to just browse through all the images in a given folder with a full-size or auto-fit display of the graphic in a

Re: RE: No-tech; was: Funny

2006-03-31 Thread pearlrosenberg
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:11 am Subject: RE: No-tech; was: Funny To: framers@FrameUsers.com > Fountain pen!?? > We had monitors before anyone could afford a fountain pen. Ink > monitors.It was their job each morning for a week to fill up the > inkwell o

Re: OT Re: FrameMaker on Mac

2006-04-06 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Bill, I appreciate your comments, but I would rather keep my primary application (FrameMaker), even if I had to run it on a "foreign" operating system like Windows XP. The ability to run FrameMaker on the Mac via Windows may be a compromise, but it has to be better than switching applicatio

Re: OT Re: FrameMaker on Mac

2006-04-06 Thread Bill Briggs
At 5:13 PM -0400 4/6/06, Rick Quatro wrote: >And I think that the increased popularity of OS X would cause Apple's hardware >sales to increase as well. Maybe, maybe not. That's the tough call. It didn't work in the "clone" era, and I'm not sure it would now. Don't forget that Apple is first and

Re: OT Re: FrameMaker on Mac

2006-04-06 Thread Rick Quatro
True, Apple is a hardware company, but the real money in computers is in software. Just ask Bill Gates. The question is, how much hardware revenue would Apple lose by such a move? Do people buy Apple for the hardware or for the software experience? Hopefully, they would gain many customers that

Re: RE: column unbalance question - RESOLVED

2006-06-14 Thread pearlrosenberg
Thank you, Richard. I didn't know about selecting the text frame on the master pg and setting the column balance in Graphics > Object Properties. That fixed it for me. - Original Message - From: "Combs, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2

Re: RE: FM to HTML Conversion

2006-06-19 Thread pearlrosenberg
. It would be tedious to have to go into the HTML for all the lists and add the list tags – as with most user manuals, the whole things is full of steps and lists. - Original Message - From: Mike Feimster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:20 pm Subject: RE:

RE: RE: FM to HTML Conversion

2006-06-19 Thread Combs, Richard
Pearl Rosenberg wrote: > In the code above, where it says should be > the first numbered step; are the remaining > steps, and are bulleted list items > that are formatted to indent under items in a numbered list. > > It would be tedious to have to go into the HTML for all the > lists and

Re: RE: Trouble with cross-references

2007-02-14 Thread pearlrosenberg
ks in advance for your help. Pearl - Original Message - From: "Combs, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:38 pm Subject: RE: Trouble with cross-references To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@frameUsers.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >

RE: RE: Trouble with cross-references

2007-02-14 Thread Combs, Richard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Richard, > I think this is on the right track. When I open the files, > every one displays a msg saying the file uses unavailable > fonts and that clicking OK will reformat the file with > available fonts. I've click OK for every file numerous times > and the files

Re: RE: Trouble with cross-references

2007-02-14 Thread John Posada
> How could I have created the files with unavailable fonts? And more > importantly, how do I fix this? This is particulary important bec I > anticipate many updates to this manual and this iteration will be > the > basis for the next. > Thanks in advance for your help. > Pearl You probably didn'

RE: RE: Trouble with cross-references

2007-02-14 Thread Ridder, Fred
er (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@frameUsers.com Subject: RE: RE: Trouble with cross-referen

RE: [BULK] RE: Reasons to structure

2007-02-15 Thread Randall C. Reed
m] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:09 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [BULK] RE: Reasons to structure Importance: Low Jeremy, I don't think that is harsh at all. What I think is harsh is the constant discouragement from learning and professional deve

Re: [Framers] *****SPAM***** Re: Old FrameMaker books?

2017-10-03 Thread Frank Stearns
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Steve Rickaby wrote: At 21:33 + 2/10/17, Wroblewski, Victoria wrote: This might be the reason we stopped actually doing index entries and have been quietly deleting index files from our books (I have a former co worker from another company who is in horror over this i

Re: [Framers] SPAM -> Re: ANN: FrameMaker 2019

2018-08-22 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
2, 2018 2:41 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: SPAM -> Re: [Framers] ANN: FrameMaker 2019 My company bought me 2017 last week. Couldn't Adobe tell them to wait a week? Caroline Tabach בתאריך יום ד׳, 22 באוג׳ 2018, 18:01, מאת Rick Quatro ‏: > Hi F

Re: Re: Importing FM files into RoboHelp

2013-02-19 Thread Nancy Allison
Oh, Hallelujah! Yep, that did it! Thanks! --Nancy   ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.

RE: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working

2013-08-26 Thread Dave.Stamm
estroy all copies of the original message. From: Gail Bergan [mailto:gail.ber...@bergan.com] Sent: 2013-08-26-Monday 11:25 To: Stamm, David-P45904 Cc: ; ; Subject: Re: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working Hi Dave, Is your begin_here.pdf being written to the same watched folder? I use

RE: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working

2013-08-26 Thread Fred Ridder
arget directory structure. -Fred Ridder Subject: RE: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:59:37 -0700 From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com To: gail.ber...@bergan.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com; frame2acro...@yahoogroups.com 2013-08-26-01T16:00Z Gail – Yes, I print the book a

Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

2013-10-24 Thread Matt Sullivan
pecial files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just start over from scratch and let F

Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

2013-10-24 Thread Scott Prentice
d files, I'm finding all the work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and wor

Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

2013-10-24 Thread Matt Sullivan
by events" and I never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is

Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

2013-10-24 Thread Mike Wickham
You might also want to check out the very helpful video on using the news (as of FM9) user interface: http://tv.adobe.com/watch/tips-and-tricks-for-technical-communicators-to-maximize-productivity/getting-started-with-the-new-framemaker-9-user-interface/ On 10/24/2013 11:52 AM, dwyer...@verizon.

Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

2013-10-24 Thread Heiko Haida
all the work I > did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or > so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there > a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD > (lots of thought and work put in

Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

2013-10-25 Thread Matt Sullivan
ed out. Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-u

Re: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-19 Thread Heiko Haida
aturation) of the color. > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain > (syed.hos...@aeris.net) > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:32 PM > To: Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameu

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Craig Ede
Given the theoretical differences I'm not sure why you would expect RGB output of CMYK colors to be close to what CMYK color should looks like. Think of it this way, if you choose a Pantone color as a spot color, you'd expect it to print exactly like as that Pantone color to paper. But to the

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Heiko Haida
Well, Craig, thats easy to explain: When I use Illustrator or Indesign, a colour will not change its screen representation if I switch from CMYK definition to RGB definition. That is not a miracle or a question of "who knows" (these programs use HSB definitions, and obviously the conversion w

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Grafikhuset
ign.grafikhuset.dk From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Heiko Haida Sent: 20. oktober 2014 16:22 To: Craig Ede Cc: framers Subject: RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query Well, Craig, thats easy to explain: When I use Illustrator or

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Heiko Haida
ilto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] ON BEHALF OF Heiko Haida > SENT: 20. oktober 2014 16:22 > TO: Craig Ede > CC: framers > SUBJECT: RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query > > Well, Craig, > > thats easy to explain: > When I use Illustrator or Indesign, a colour will

Re: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Robert Lauriston
A screen capture of a RGB representation of a CMYK image in a professional graphics program isn't a very common requirement. What does the screen capture from Illustrator look like if you simply paste it into Windows Paint? On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Heiko Haida wrote: > > Hi Jacob, > > m

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-21 Thread Davis, David
7 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:35:13 -0500 From: Craig Ede To: "i...@heiko-haida.de" , framers Subject: RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Given the theoretical differences I'm not sure why you would expect R

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-22 Thread Davis, David
s, it seems that the conversion >formula Frame uses is: RGB to CMYK: C = max(R, G, B) - R M = max(R, G, B) - G Y = max(R, G, B) - B K = 100 - max(R, G, B) CMYK to RGB: R = min(100 - K - C, 0) G = min(100 - K - M, 0) B = min(100 - K - Y, 0) ...which gives rubbish results. David From: J

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-22 Thread Craig Ede
@lists.frameusers.com > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 03:34:52 -0500 > Subject: RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query > > Are colour conversions really that "complex"? > They're just converting colour coordinates in one colour-space to those in > another, using some straightf

Re: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
e why one would want to use CMYK to print to the screen. > > Craig >> From: david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com >> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 03:34:52 -0500 >> Subject: RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query >> >> Are colour conver

RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

2014-10-23 Thread Davis, David
g's game (and vice versa if you have natively CMYK or Pantone material in your PDF). From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: 22 October 2014 15:35 To: Davis, David; framers Subject: RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query Yes, I think color conversions are that complex. RGB was design

Re: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy

2010-10-29 Thread Writer
Not if it's pronounced Dos Ten Ten. Nadine --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Bill Swallow wrote: > From: Bill Swallow > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy > To: "Steve Pawlowskis" > Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" > Date: Friday, Octob

RE: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy

2010-10-29 Thread Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC WR-ALC/ENGLTB
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy Not if it's pronounced Dos Ten Ten. Nadine --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Bill Swallow wrote: > From: Bill Swallow > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy > To: "Steve Pawlowskis" > Cc: "fra

Re: [Bulk] Re: DITA file naming conventions

2011-11-03 Thread Writer
>For what it's worth, the DITA Style Guide recommends using names that match >the titles. Since we are using a shared drive on my computer and no automated way to change file names and have the change cascade through our "system", that approach doesn't work for us. Partly because titles chang

RE: re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

2011-12-02 Thread Combs, Richard
ray.ll...@agfa.com wrote: > Are there any tricks to pull in a paragraph (e.g. a note) into several > documents for re-use beside using Text Insets? I'd like to put all > these re-usable paragraphs in one document and then pull specific > paragraphs into other documents -- simila

Re: re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

2011-12-02 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 _ From: ray.ll...@agfa.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 03:52:29 -0500 Subject: re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker Are there any tricks to pull in a paragraph (e.g. a note

Re: re-using paragraphs in Unstructured FrameMaker

2011-12-06 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Ray Indeed, there are times I wish I had conrefs and keyrefs in unstructured Fm too. ;-) You could put reusable content in variables, and manage the variables with Leximation's BookVars plug-in: http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php The problem with variables however, is that the

Re: RE: Repetitious Loading of Image Files

2012-04-27 Thread Nancy Allison
 I've changed the name of the English file directory so FrameMaker can't find those images.  When Frame can't find the English directory, I point it to the French directory, and the fun begins (all the fun I described). --Nancy  On 04/27/12, Jaime Zuniga wrote: Hi Nancy,I would change the name of t

Re: Re: Repetitious Loading of Image Files

2012-04-27 Thread Nancy Allison
Thanks, everyone!  I took the suggestion to put ALL the original files in a new directory, then copy the French versions in over them, then point FM to the new directory.  Now it finds all the files it needs in that directory and seems to escape the existential crisis it suffered before. Happy now!

RE: RE: Repetitious Loading of Image Files

2012-04-27 Thread Jaime Zuniga
: Jaime Zuniga; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: RE: Repetitious Loading of Image Files I've changed the name of the English file directory so FrameMaker can't find those images. When Frame can't find the English directory, I point it to the French directory, and the

RE: RE: Repetitious Loading of Image Files

2012-04-27 Thread Jaime Zuniga
PM To: Jaime Zuniga; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: RE: Repetitious Loading of Image Files I've changed the name of the English file directory so FrameMaker can't find those images. When Frame can't find the English directory, I point it to the French directory, and

Re: RE: "No master pages applied because ..."

2012-06-13 Thread Nancy Allison
On 06/13/12, Combs, Richard wrote: "I bet your coworker is updating the book, and in the Update Book dialog box, Apply Master Pages is selected. Since you all aren't using the master page mapping function, that check box shouldn't be selected. " That was it! A thousand thanks. --Nancy

Re: Re: Template for four-page brochure?

2012-08-06 Thread Nancy Allison
Thanks to everyone who has responded. I neglected to add that we will distribute this document in two ways: 1. Physically along with the hardware product 2. In PDF form from the web site This means that, however we set up the document we physically print, we also have to have a printable forma

Re: Re: Template for four-page brochure?

2012-08-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
When you say "printer" do you mean a print shop or a fancy large-format laser printer? In either case, you should be able to create the four-page 8.5x11 PDF and use that to print two-up double-sided on 11x17, but if you're talking about a shop, call them to make sure. On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:56

RE: Re: Template for four-page brochure?

2012-08-23 Thread David Artman
You have answered your own question--see below: > I neglected to add that we will distribute this document in two ways: > > 1. Physically along with the hardware product > > 2. In PDF form from the web site The (2) means you should build it as Letter and have the printer impose it into a "2-Up,

RE: (RESOLVED) RE: FrameMaker 11 update 11.0.1

2012-10-10 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
With zips - always unpack, then run ;>) -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gay Alson Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:21 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: (RESOLVED) RE: FrameMaker

Re: [Framers] OT: Re: Free is good

2020-03-02 Thread Ken Poshedly
Thanks Carol. Will do that now. -- Ken * On Monday, March 2, 2020, 11:46:02 AM EST, Carol J. Elkins wrote: Ken, if a Framer doesn't take you up on your offer, consider posting it to Freecycle.org. It is an international network of people giving and tak

Re: [Framers] [SPAM-heur] Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-01 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] [SPAM-heur] Re: FrameMaker 2015 Hi Jerilynne, I don't know if this may help, but when I work from home (like most of us lately), I plug in my laptop (Win10), via HDMI, into a nice LG 32" (32MP58) display. A few months ago

Re: [Framers] [SPAM-heur] Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-01 Thread Harrington, Matthew (Contractor)
eMaker software. Subject: [SPAM-heur] Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 Lordy, it's been so long since I used "Reply All" that I sent my response directly to Peter. Duh, lol. I did putz and fiddle with some of display settings and didn't see any changes (including closing & reo

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Thanks for this insight. Bodvar fim., 2. apr. 2020 kl. 17:09 skrifaði Frank Stearns : > In 1990 or so I'd just completed migrating some 6000 pages of DEC RNO > (with pieces of UNIX Troff tossed in) over to LaTeX for my primary > client of the day (Aptec Systems, a Floating Point Systems spin-

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Craig Ede
Nostalgia can cause trouble. I recently was in an interview with a multinational Health Care company in the Milwaukee/Waukesha area and referred to 'tagging' paragraphs in unstructured FrameMaker. The interviewer was nonplussed and corrected me, saying unstructured FrameMaker was not like XML.

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Frank Stearns
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020, Craig Ede wrote: Nostalgia can cause trouble. I recently was in an interview with a True, to some degree. On the other hand, I've noted some annoying shifts in some language "pools" such that "process" becomes more important than "results". This seems to be especially tr

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I'm not sure how nostalgia figures into that. What most programs call paragraph styles and character styles, unstructured FrameMaker calls paragraph tags and character tags. https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/using-framemaker-2019/frm_page_layout_pl-styles.html On Thu, Apr 2, 2020

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
Just when I've been wondering if I’m really as old as I look, or only as old as I've always thought I was (meaning 20-something), in jumps Frank Stearns! Like Lin Sims, Lynne Price, et. al. You're one of the early-on posters I remember saving lives - mine and those of others - back in the days of c

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I used FullWrite on an SE/30 in the late 80s. I think it was my preferred word processor for a while. On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM Peter Gold wrote: > > ... As to nostalgia for lost technologies, Ashton-Tate bought Mac-based > FullWrite Professional, probably one of the only real competitors to

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Craig Ede
Tags may exist as nouns in the manual, but for him it seemed the verb 'tagging' was XML related only. Did I say manual? I meant help pages. Another slip. Craig Robert Lauriston said: I'm not sure how nostalgia figures into that. What most programs call paragraph

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:31 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: > I used FullWrite on an SE/30 in the late 80s. I think it was my > preferred word processor for a while. > WordStar's Ctrl-key "diamond" s, d, e, and x, for cursor movement, and many text operations, are still burnt into my synapses, only s

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-03 Thread Lin Sims
Klaus is fairly active on the Adobe forums, and still working on useful scripts, too. On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 8:05 PM Peter Gold wrote: > Just when I've been wondering if I’m really as old as I look, or only as > old as I've always thought I was (meaning 20-something), in jumps Frank > Stearns! L

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-03 Thread Jerilynne Knight
What a great history of FM...I started out on Ventura Publisher, while working for Xerox, who had purchased the software and didn't know squiddly squat about it so, as someone who had gone NUTZ trying to find some way to do process doc and software manuals without going postal, I set out to learn i

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-03 Thread Lin Sims
Word still pretty much sucks. It's more stable than it used to be, but things like numbering still require very strictly controlled styles or some facility with VB. I've encountered people who can get it to do a lot of what Frame does, but, again, they use a lot of VB macros to do what Frame does o

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-03 Thread Jerilynne Knight
Hey there Lin...right there widya Numbering, after all these years, still sucks! J On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 8:47 AM Lin Sims wrote: > Word still pretty much sucks. It's more stable than it used to be, but > things like numbering still require very strictly controlled styles or some > fac

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-03 Thread Jerilynne Knight
Hey there Peter, I totally forgot about WordStar! I'm still a keyboard shortcuts person and grumble heartily when they're not available. I can do things so much more quickly with the keyboard! J 317.593.5551 On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 10:11 PM Peter Gold wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:31 PM Rob

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-06 Thread L Larson
sion of FM for large document sets. What a joy it was then! -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Jerilynne Knight Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:56 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015 Hey ther

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-06 Thread Jerilynne Knight
I remember at least a part of those days! My first training course in '84 was to help executive assistants (they were called secretaries back then) convert from typewriters to a standalone word processing unit from DEC (with 2 8" floppies...one for the system files and one for the data files). I do

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-06 Thread Lin Sims
ment sets. What a joy it was then! > > -Original Message- > From: Framers > On Behalf Of Jerilynne Knight > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:56 AM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < > framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Nos

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
In the late 70s and 80s I made my living typing, mostly at law firms, so I saw the whole evolution firsthand. When I started it was typewriters with carbon paper and Wite-Out. Then came IBM Correcting Selectric ball typewriters and Xerox machines, then IBM Mag Card or occasionally the MT/ST tape ve

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-07 Thread Jerilynne Knight
early 90s, I was able to move to an early version of FM > > for large document sets. What a joy it was then! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Framers > > > On Behalf Of Jerilynne Knight > > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:56 AM > > To: An

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-07 Thread Jerilynne Knight
Wowser Robert, talk about a background! Which makes me laugh at a recent comment by a young man of 34 when I said something about technology in the late 70s and early 80s. The comment: "They had technology back then?" This story definitely proves that yes, grasshopper, they did! Ouch, lol! On Mo

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-07 Thread Jerilynne Knight
Hi Bjorn...I didn't follow Ventura that far into present time, although I loved it when I learned it a Xerox. Once Corel took it over, I though I was the only one who was both disappointed and disgusted with the poor job they were doing! On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:00 PM Studio Smalbro wrote: >

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-07 Thread Mark Soiseth
I got a job with a company who used Ventura on the GEM environment. It allowed me to shoot myself in the foot so easily. But, once I learned how to apply the rules, etc., I was amazed. And this was on DOS-based machines with a 8086 chip and only 640 kb of RAM. But, yes, Corel did not do it justice

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-07 Thread Jerilynne Knight
Oh wowser Mark...I forgot about the Gem environment! And I remember that DOS-based machine...had one of them! J On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 2:42 PM Mark Soiseth wrote: > I got a job with a company who used Ventura on the GEM environment. It > allowed me to shoot myself in the foot so easily. But, o

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-07 Thread Peter Gold
Corel's not the first company to have shot itself in the foot. Many of us have first-have experience. Oooops, should that be "first-foot?" On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 1:41 PM Mark Soiseth wrote: > I got a job with a company who used Ventura on the GEM environment. It > allowed me to shoot myself in the

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-07 Thread Jerilynne Knight
Oh lordy Peter, don't even get me started on that topic!!! lol On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 10:01 PM Peter Gold wrote: > Corel's not the first company to have shot itself in the foot. Many of us > have first-have experience. Oooops, should that be "first-foot?" > > >

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-07 Thread Peter Gold
Dang autocorrect. Should have been "first-hand" not "first-have." Ok, I won't start your feet moving down that path. ;) On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 9:13 PM Jerilynne Knight wrote: > Oh lordy Peter, don't even get me started on that topic!!! lol > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 10:01 PM Peter Gold > wr

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-09 Thread Robert Lauriston
Interleaf was eventually acquired by Broadleaf, which renamed it Quicksilver, which still exists. On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:33 AM Tarlochan S. Nahal wrote: > > My nostalgia goes further back! > > As many of you might know there was another heavy-weight technical > publishing tool called Interleaf

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-09 Thread jackdeland
Reading all this nostalgia makes ME feel young again. And I was at the Apollo 11 launch. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives lo

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-10 Thread Robert Lauriston
In related news: "Literally, we have systems that are 40-plus-years-old," New Jersey Gov. > Murphy said over the weekend. "There'll be lots of postmortems and one of > them on our list will be how did we get here where we literally needed > COBOL programmers?" > https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/bus

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-10 Thread Lin Sims
Because they still work, they're reliable, and at this point they're pretty much unhackable. Plus, the cost of transferring all that data and creating programs in modern languages is incalculable. No one wants to make the investment. -- Lin Sims ___ T

Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-10 Thread Robert Lauriston
To the contrary, I think pretty much everyone is trying to move off legacy mainframe systems. It's a booming business. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=migrate+cobol+to+the+cloud On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:55 AM Lin Sims wrote: > > Because they still work, they're reliable, an

Re: [Framers] Pronouns (was Re: Paragraph numbering)

2021-06-16 Thread Lin Sims
No need to apologize, there was no way for you to know without my telling you, especially as it's a nickname. On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 4:36 PM Lynne A. Price wrote: > I'm so sorry, Lin. My parents always told me that Lynn could be either a > man's name or a woman's, but Lynne was always a woman's

RE: RE: Keyboard shortcut for copyright symbol

2008-01-25 Thread Richard Pesant
- Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:43:50 -0600 From: "Martinek, Carla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Keyboard shortcut for copyright symbol To: "Framers" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here's

RE: WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker)

2008-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
Understand, though, that even if that "works" it would be considered an unsupported configuration by Adobe. There is absolutely NO technical support for using Adobe applications under such environments. (A similar issue came up with regards to running InDesign under WINE on various Linux and UNIX p

RE: WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker)

2008-02-14 Thread Flato, Gillian
Dov, Are you whining about WINE Sorry, couldn't resist. -Gillian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:42 PM To: Paul Findon; Framers List Subject: RE: WINE (Was Re: future of Frame

RE: [BULK] RE: Text Frames on Graphic

2008-06-10 Thread Sam Beard
12:42 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [BULK] RE: Text Frames on Graphic Importance: Low It might not be relevant in your situation, but you don't really need a text frame to add callouts on top of a graphic. Just use the text tool on the graphics toolbar. You can change the font, siz

Re: Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread quills
It's still not ready for prime time. At least not for technical documentation. It's still an Xpress style layout program for magazines and brochures, not long documents. The paradigm of it's tools and how you go about things are based upon the paste up board of a graphic designer. Don't tell me

RE: [Bulk] Re: adding graphics to files

2008-10-10 Thread Plueckhahn, Lutz
Hi Deirdre, > Once it's imported into the file, I can't access it. I ctrl-click the > frame, but the handles don't appear. I didn't follow the entire thread. Did you import the PDF into a graphics frame or anchored frame? Which context-menu do you see when you right-click on the graphic? Can you

Re: RE: Conditional text for single-sourcing

2009-05-12 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, Linda. This is an interesting approach -- and I can easily see how we tech writers may develop standards that are pickier than our clients would ever require . . . just because we can, darn it! My manual has chapter page numbers (3-1 to 3-25, then 4-1 to 4-13, etc.). The table and figure nu

RE: RE: Conditional text for single-sourcing

2009-05-12 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
:ma...@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:59 AM To: lin...@techcomplus.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: RE: Conditional text for single-sourcing Hi, Linda. This is an interesting approach -- and I can easily see how we tech writers may develop standards that are pickier th

Re: Filepaths (was Re: Mif2Go graphics question)

2009-09-11 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:05:05 -0700 (PDT), Les Smalley wrote: >Never, really?  Only letters and digits?  Yes. There are a few more that you can use under most (but not all( circumstances, and several that only bollix one or two commands, but nobody can remember which ones thay are. ;-) So th

Re: Re: Leader dots do not print

2009-10-01 Thread Nancy Allison
That did it. In updating the file, I at some point imported paragraph formats for the LOF tags that didn't have the extra tabs. Adding the extra tabs back in solved the problem. Thanks. --Nancy On Oct 1, 2009, Art Campbell wrote: If you're using that trick that came up a few days ago, about

Re: RE: Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker

2010-01-07 Thread ecidade
nsonSent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:31 PM > To: Matt Sullivan > Cc: > framers@lists.frameusers.com; ecid > a...@zoominternet.net;framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comsubject: RE: Epic > Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker > > > Haven't looked into this for a few years.

RE: RE: Epic Arbortext to Adobe FrameMaker

2010-01-07 Thread Matt Sullivan
in facebook -Original Message- From: ecid...@zoominternet.net [mailto:ecid...@zoominternet.net] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 6:57 AM To: Carole Johnson; Matt Sullivan; ecid...@zoominternet.net; Diane Gaskill Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: RE:

Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread pearlrosenberg
Yes. Unfortunately, the backup is the same. - Original Message - From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:33 am Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File > If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the >

Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Donald M Rinderknecht
Has anyone else tried opening it for you on another machine? Thanks, Don. Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch$ - Original Message - From: "Ridder, Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:5

Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread pearlrosenberg
rence graphics about how hard it is (or isn't) to keep track of the graphic files. Pearl Rosenberg TeleHealth Services - Original Message - From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:28 am Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File >

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