Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-20 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
what a trip. bravo, jon michaels On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, jonathan michaels wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: jonathan michaels wrote: it is easy to say i didn't know, but its harder to justify treating people like jcw did, as per example, i'm not picling on

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-20 Thread jonathan michaels
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > jonathan michaels wrote: > > > it is easy to say i didn't know, but its harder to justify treating > > people like jcw did, as per example, i'm not picling on ou jason, your > > post and responce is teh best example of this process

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread Jason C. Wells
jonathan michaels wrote: it is easy to say i didn't know, but its harder to justify treating people like jcw did, as per example, i'm not picling on ou jason, your post and responce is teh best example of this process that i have seen since a few nolonger present in public freebsd community made

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread jonathan michaels
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:14:29AM -0700, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Astrodog wrote: > > > Just as "I really enjoy drinking heavily then driving like Mario > > Andretti, Officer Smith" is much more understandable, and can be read > > faster than, > > "ireallyenjoydrinkingheavil

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, jonathan michaels wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:42:49AM -0500, Astrodog wrote: int func() { if (blah == 2) { otherfunc(blah2); return 0; } else { return 1; } } is MUCH easier to understand than: int func() {if(blah==2){otherfun

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Astrodog wrote: Just as "I really enjoy drinking heavily then driving like Mario Andretti, Officer Smith" is much more understandable, and can be read faster than, "ireallyenjoydrinkingheavilythendrivinglikemarioandrettiofficersmith" i really enjoy drinking heavily then

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread jonathan michaels
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:42:49AM -0500, Astrodog wrote: > Dear god, this is sad. > > To all of you attacking the rules of capitalization, spelling and grammar... > > These rules exist to aid in allowing others to understand what you're > writing, much as style(9) exists to help make code more >

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread Astrodog
Dear god, this is sad. To all of you attacking the rules of capitalization, spelling and grammar... These rules exist to aid in allowing others to understand what you're writing, much as style(9) exists to help make code more understandable. For example: int func() { if (blah == 2) {

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-16 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2008-03-15 13:23, KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Jason C. Wells wrote: jonathan michaels wrote: we all use the 'lingua franca' at different levels of usability for all and different levels of competance for all and various differnt leve

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2008-03-15 13:23, KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Jason C. Wells wrote: >> jonathan michaels wrote: >>> we all use the 'lingua franca' at different levels of usability for all >>> and different levels of competance for all and various differnt levels >>> of the 'hu

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, jonathan michaels wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:28:54AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: jonathan michaels wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:43:21PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: spellberg_robert wrote: so please accept my sincere apologies for being too stupid to parti

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread jonathan michaels
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:28:54AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > jonathan michaels wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:43:21PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > >> spellberg_robert wrote: > >> > >>> when your content is sound, > >>> the presentation will take care of itself. > >> /me hands Rob a

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Jason C. Wells wrote: jonathan michaels wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:43:21PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: spellberg_robert wrote: when your content is sound, the presentation will take care of itself. /me hands Rob a paragraph and some upper case letters. BRAVO

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Jason C. Wells wrote: spellberg_robert wrote: when your content is sound, the presentation will take care of itself. /me hands Rob a paragraph and some upper case letters. I'm sorry. I found it far too difficult to read your content. The poor presentation required

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread Jason C. Wells
jonathan michaels wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:43:21PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: spellberg_robert wrote: when your content is sound, the presentation will take care of itself. /me hands Rob a paragraph and some upper case letters. I'm sorry. I found it far too difficult to read yo

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread jonathan michaels
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:43:21PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > spellberg_robert wrote: > > > when your content is sound, > > the presentation will take care of itself. > > /me hands Rob a paragraph and some upper case letters. > > I'm sorry. I found it far too difficult to read your conten

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread Jason C. Wells
spellberg_robert wrote: when your content is sound, the presentation will take care of itself. /me hands Rob a paragraph and some upper case letters. I'm sorry. I found it far too difficult to read your content. The poor presentation required more effort than I was willing to invest. R

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-14 Thread Peter Ross
Hi Robert, On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, spellberg_robert wrote: now, mr. ross, above, appears to prefer that freebsd behave similarly to microsoft and apple, but, without actually being microsoft or apple. I am not sure whether you understand it here. As my personal computers were dual-boot, becau

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-14 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 14/03/2008, spellberg_robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i don't care if freebsd doesn't have a flash plug_in. The worst bits of the web are opt out, and freebsd opts out just fine for my tastes. > hope this helps. > > rob It's better than reading Dan Brown. -- -- _

on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-14 Thread spellberg_robert
Peter Ross wrote: Hi all, I hate to pollute the list with [ snip ] Many think of FreeBSD in terms of a "vanilla" Intel/AMD desktop OS only, and while it's not that popular here (and has some shortcomings there - most are related to missing or outdated drivers for consumer hardware or thing