On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Xin LI wrote:
One good thing (in my opinion) that NetBSD and Darwin have is that they have
a common tree which holds the common files that shared between kernel and
userland libc. Currently we have 2 or more copies of certain files in the
tree but I'm not sure if it's a
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, paradox wrote:
so, I really do not understand why it is so difficult to move a few folders
in the shared folder is a big problem as is done in openbsd and netbsd
http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/arch/?only_with_tag=MAIN
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1003050912340.5...@fledge.watson.org, Robert Watso
n writes:
Doing that kind of rearrangement [...] would be a nightmare for
anyone with large [...] patches, so I'd say we could pretty much rule
that out outright.
I would say that we should do it occasionally, to
On 03/05/10 00:02, Rui Paulo wrote:
This code is fine from a quick review. It just needs a few style fixes.
We could probably start thinking about committing it.
I think thompsa@ already merged the non-host-ap version of run(4) to HEAD.
I haven't had free time to look at this yet, but I'm
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
Juniper, and many others'?
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1003050912340.5...@fledge.watson.org, Robert
Watso n writes:
Doing that kind of rearrangement [...] would be a nightmare for anyone with
large [...] patches, so I'd say we could pretty much rule that out
outright.
I
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1003050940290.5...@fledge.watson.org, Robert Watso
n writes:
[...] it's that changes in layout
come with a less visible but much larger cost than svn mv.
Really stupid question: Doesn't svn support symlinks ?
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On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
Juniper, and many others'?
It might be helpful to think of them as 'customers'
In message cf439450-14f1-4628-a012-cf6dd2a50...@rabson.org, Doug Rabson write
s:
Normal business practice doesn't include
intentionally making your customers' lives difficult - if you make a
habit of it they tend to go elsewhere.
Right, but as Sun has so definitively shown, you don't do your
On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote:
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
Juniper, and many
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote:
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
Juniper, and many others'?
It isn't managed by them whatsoever.
FreeBSD is a cooperative anarchy, driven by working code and rough consensus.
That's what controls the checkins.
On 05.03.2010 12:59, Doug Rabson wrote:
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote:
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many
In message 4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su, Alex Keda writes:
then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD or ManagedBSD? =)
or something abstract?
You are free to use any other operating system of your choice, if you
are not happy with FreeBSD.
Don't let the door hit you on the way
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:48:17 +0300, Alex Keda ad...@lissyara.su wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:59, Doug Rabson wrote:
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote:
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert
On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su, Alex Keda writes:
then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD or ManagedBSD? =)
or something abstract?
You are free to use any other operating system of your choice, if you
are not
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Keda ad...@lissyara.su wrote:
On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su, Alex Keda writes:
then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD or
ManagedBSD?
=)
or something abstract?
You
Hi
I have a system that is experiencing mild to severe packet loss.
The interfaces are configured as follows:
lagg0: bce0, bce1, bce2, bce3 lagproto lacp
lagg0 then is used as the hwdev for the vlan interfaces.
I have pf with a few queues for bandwidth management.
There isn't that much
On 05.03.2010 14:16, Doug Rabson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Kedaad...@lissyara.su wrote:
On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su, Alex Keda writes:
then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD
In message e3e25b34d9476c02d80919fe5d09a...@mail.rabson.org, Doug Rabson writ
es:
I think you misunderstand. Some of us old-timers have been having this
discussion repeatedly for well over ten years.
s/ten/fifteen/ :-)
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p...@freebsd.org
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:27:06 +0300, Alex Keda ad...@lissyara.su wrote:
On 05.03.2010 14:16, Doug Rabson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Kedaad...@lissyara.su
wrote:
On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su, Alex Keda
On 05.03.2010 14:16, Doug Rabson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Kedaad...@lissyara.su wrote:
On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su, Alex Keda writes:
then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD
paradox ddkp...@yahoo.com writes:
so, I really do not understand why it is so difficult [...]
Easy for you to say, since you're not the one who would have to do the
work and spend the next two years cleaning up the resulting mess.
DES
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Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk writes:
Really stupid question: Doesn't svn support symlinks ?
It does, but the moment we move in that direction, someone will start
complaining that they can't check out the source on Windows (which is
the reason why we no longer have any files in the tree
Alexander Motin m...@freebsd.org writes:
I've just added Power Up In Stand-by (PUIS) feature support into CAM
ATA in HEAD. It is one of the ways to implement staggered spin-up for
ATA devices. Now CAM will spin-up no more then 4 of such devices at a
time.
Hmm, how does that work? Doesn't
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:01:30 +0100 Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)
svein-listm...@stillbilde.net wrote:
On 05.03.2010 11:48, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:59, Doug Rabson wrote:
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
It seems to me, business and freedom - are mutually exclusive
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 02:27:06PM +0300, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 14:16, Doug Rabson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Kedaad...@lissyara.su wrote:
On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su, Alex Keda writes:
Instead of this patch people can use kern.cam.boot_delay
Just set a delay in ms.
That works on 8-STABLE too.
--
Gianni
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Hans Petter Selasky hsela...@c2i.net wrote:
Hi,
Sometimes the USB sticks won't get detected in time. You can fix this by using
the following
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
Juniper, and many others'?
These and other companies contribute significantly to
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1003050940290.5...@fledge.watson.org, Robert
Watso n writes:
[...] it's that changes in layout come with a less visible but much larger
cost than svn mv.
Really stupid question: Doesn't svn support symlinks ?
Yes,
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Alex Keda wrote:
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
Juniper, and many others'?
It might be helpful to think of them as 'customers' who are using our
'product' and paying for it by feeding back patches and employing FreeBSD
On 2010-03-05 13:18, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Hmm, how does that work? Doesn't the BIOS spin the disks up long before
the kernel even loads? Can you set a flag on the disk to tell it not
to?
A jumper (marked PM2 on WD disks; no idea for other brands). From
Wikipedia:
[PUIS] can usually
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Alexander Motin m...@freebsd.org writes:
I've just added Power Up In Stand-by (PUIS) feature support into CAM
ATA in HEAD. It is one of the ways to implement staggered spin-up for
ATA devices. Now CAM will spin-up no more then 4 of such devices at a
time.
Hmm,
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:27, Bruce Simpson wrote:
On 03/05/10 00:02, Rui Paulo wrote:
This code is fine from a quick review. It just needs a few style fixes.
We could probably start thinking about committing it.
I think thompsa@ already merged the non-host-ap version of run(4) to HEAD.
On 03/05/10 11:10, Alex Keda wrote:
I'm not going anywhere, not even hope for it =)
I'm trying to make FreeBSD a better, more logical.
Maybe that's not very successful, but judging by the number of
responses, it hurt many, and made to think even more people.
One of the things which attracted
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:20:57PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
Hi
I have a system that is experiencing mild to severe packet loss.
The interfaces are configured as follows:
lagg0: bce0, bce1, bce2, bce3 lagproto lacp
lagg0 then is used as the hwdev for the vlan interfaces.
I have pf
Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:20:57PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
Hi
I have a system that is experiencing mild to severe packet loss.
The interfaces are configured as follows:
lagg0: bce0, bce1, bce2, bce3 lagproto lacp
lagg0 then is used as the hwdev for
TB --- 2010-03-05 18:12:25 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca
TB --- 2010-03-05 18:12:25 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for mips/mips
TB --- 2010-03-05 18:12:25 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2010-03-05 18:12:34 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2010-03-05 18:12:34 -
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message e3e25b34d9476c02d80919fe5d09a...@mail.rabson.org, Doug Rabson writ
es:
I think you misunderstand. Some of us old-timers have been having this
discussion repeatedly for well over ten years.
s/ten/fifteen/ :-)
s/fifteen/twenty five/ if you include BSD 4.2
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 08:16:31PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:20:57PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
Hi
I have a system that is experiencing mild to severe packet loss.
The interfaces are configured as follows:
lagg0: bce0,
Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
Would you show me the output of dmesg(bce(4)/brgphy(4) only) and
the output of pciconf -lcbv for the controller?
[firewall1.jnb1] ~ # egrep bce|brgphy /var/run/dmesg.boot
bce0: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 1000Base-T (B2) mem 0xe600-0xe7ff
irq 72 at device 0.0
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:12:02AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 15:14 -0800, Weongyo Jeong wrote:
When it occurs again, I will get you the details and the full dmesg. Do
you want a verbose dmesg, or a standard one?
I think a standard one is enough. Thank you.
URL?
http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/bce/bce.20100305.diff
The patch was generated against CURRENT and you may see a message
like Disabling COAL_NOW timedout! during interface up. You can
ignore that message.
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at the following URL?
http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/bce/bce.20100305.diff
The patch was generated against CURRENT and you may see a message
like Disabling COAL_NOW timedout! during interface up. You can
ignore that message.
Thanks. I'll give the patch a go on Monday when there are people
nearby
On 3/5/10 3:53 PM, Weongyo Jeong wrote:
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:12:02AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 15:14 -0800, Weongyo Jeong wrote:
When it occurs again, I will get you the details and the full dmesg. Do
you want a verbose dmesg, or a standard one?
I think a
as fixing some minor bugs. However I don't know whether the
patch can fix the RX issue you're suffering from. Anyway, would you
give it try the patch at the following URL?
http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/bce/bce.20100305.diff
The patch was generated against CURRENT and you may see a message
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 04:44:34PM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
On 3/5/10 3:53 PM, Weongyo Jeong wrote:
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:12:02AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 15:14 -0800, Weongyo Jeong wrote:
When it occurs again, I will get you the details and the full
TB --- 2010-03-06 03:30:00 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca
TB --- 2010-03-06 03:30:00 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for amd64/amd64
TB --- 2010-03-06 03:30:00 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2010-03-06 03:30:26 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2010-03-06 03:30:26 -
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