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On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 04:44:34PM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> On 3/5/10 3:53 PM, Weongyo Jeong wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:12:02AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 15:14 -0800, Weongyo Jeong wrote:
> When it occurs again, I will get you the details an
ch which fixes a couple of bus_dma(9) issues as
> > well as fixing some minor bugs. However I don't know whether the
> > patch can fix the RX issue you're suffering from. Anyway, would you
> > give it try the patch at the following URL?
> > http://people.freebsd.
On 3/5/10 3:53 PM, Weongyo Jeong wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:12:02AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 15:14 -0800, Weongyo Jeong wrote:
When it occurs again, I will get you the details and the full dmesg. Do
you want a verbose dmesg, or a standard one?
>>>
you
> give it try the patch at the following URL?
> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/bce/bce.20100305.diff
> The patch was generated against CURRENT and you may see a message
> like "Disabling COAL_NOW timedout!" during interface up. You can
> ignore that message.
Tha
erspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0
> cap 03[50] = VPD
> cap 05[58] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit enabled with 1 message
>
Thanks for the info. Frankly, I have no idea how to explain the
issue given that you have no heavy load.
I have a bce(4) patch which fixes a couple
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:12:02AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 15:14 -0800, Weongyo Jeong wrote:
> > > When it occurs again, I will get you the details and the full dmesg. Do
> > > you want a verbose dmesg, or a standard one?
> >
> > I think a standard one is enough.
Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
>
> Would you show me the output of dmesg(bce(4)/brgphy(4) only) and
> the output of "pciconf -lcbv" for the controller?
[firewall1.jnb1] ~ # egrep "bce|brgphy" /var/run/dmesg.boot
bce0: mem 0xe600-0xe7ff
irq 72 at device 0.0 on pci4
miibus0: on bce0
brgphy0: PH
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 08:16:31PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
> Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:20:57PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have a system that is experiencing mild to severe packet loss.
> > > The interfaces are configured as follows:
> > >
> >
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message , Doug Rabson writ
es:
I think you misunderstand. Some of us old-timers have been having this
discussion repeatedly for well over ten years.
s/ten/fifteen/ :-)
s/fifteen/twenty five/ if you include BSD 4.2
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Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:20:57PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a system that is experiencing mild to severe packet loss.
> > The interfaces are configured as follows:
> >
> > lagg0: bce0, bce1, bce2, bce3 lagproto lacp
> >
> > lagg0 then is used as
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:20:57PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a system that is experiencing mild to severe packet loss.
> The interfaces are configured as follows:
>
> lagg0: bce0, bce1, bce2, bce3 lagproto lacp
>
> lagg0 then is used as the hwdev for the vlan interfaces.
>
>
On 03/05/10 11:10, Alex Keda wrote:
I'm not going anywhere, not even hope for it =)
I'm trying to make FreeBSD a better, more logical.
Maybe that's not very successful, but judging by the number of
responses, it hurt many, and made to think even more people.
One of the things which attracted m
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:27, Bruce Simpson wrote:
> On 03/05/10 00:02, Rui Paulo wrote:
>> This code is fine from a quick review. It just needs a few style fixes.
>> We could probably start thinking about committing it.
>>
>
> I think thompsa@ already merged the non-host-ap version of run(4) to H
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Alexander Motin writes:
>> I've just added Power Up In Stand-by (PUIS) feature support into CAM
>> ATA in HEAD. It is one of the ways to implement staggered spin-up for
>> ATA devices. Now CAM will spin-up no more then 4 of such devices at a
>> time.
>
> Hmm, how do
On 2010-03-05 13:18, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Hmm, how does that work? Doesn't the BIOS spin the disks up long before
the kernel even loads? Can you set a flag on the disk to tell it not
to?
A jumper (marked PM2 on WD disks; no idea for other brands). From
Wikipedia:
"[PUIS] can usually b
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Alex Keda wrote:
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
Juniper, and many others'?
It might be helpful to think of them as 'customers' who are using our
'product' and paying for it by feeding back patches and employing FreeBSD
developers.
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message , Robert
Watso n writes:
[...] it's that changes in layout come with a less visible but much larger
cost than "svn mv".
Really stupid question: Doesn't svn support symlinks ?
Yes, but does that help? The issue is not user applicati
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
Juniper, and many others'?
These and other companies contribute significantly to the
Instead of this patch people can use kern.cam.boot_delay
Just set a delay in ms.
That works on 8-STABLE too.
--
Gianni
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sometimes the USB sticks won't get detected in time. You can fix this by using
> the following simple quick
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 02:27:06PM +0300, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 05.03.2010 14:16, Doug Rabson wrote:
> >On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Keda wrote:
> >
> >>On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >>
> >>>In message<4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su>, Alex Keda writes:
> >>>
> >
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:01:30 +0100 "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)"
wrote:
> On 05.03.2010 11:48, Alex Keda wrote:
> > On 05.03.2010 12:59, Doug Rabson wrote:
> >> On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
> >>> It seems to me, business and freedom - are mutually exclusive
> >>> things. or you
Alexander Motin writes:
> I've just added Power Up In Stand-by (PUIS) feature support into CAM
> ATA in HEAD. It is one of the ways to implement staggered spin-up for
> ATA devices. Now CAM will spin-up no more then 4 of such devices at a
> time.
Hmm, how does that work? Doesn't the BIOS spin
"Poul-Henning Kamp" writes:
> Really stupid question: Doesn't svn support symlinks ?
It does, but the moment we move in that direction, someone will start
complaining that they can't check out the source on Windows (which is
the reason why we no longer have any files in the tree with colons in
t
paradox writes:
> so, I really do not understand why it is so difficult [...]
Easy for you to say, since you're not the one who would have to do the
work and spend the next two years cleaning up the resulting mess.
DES
--
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On 05.03.2010 14:16, Doug Rabson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message<4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su>, Alex Keda writes:
then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD or
Man
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:27:06 +0300, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 05.03.2010 14:16, Doug Rabson wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Keda
wrote:
>>
>>> On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>>>
In message<4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su>, Alex Keda writes:
>>>
In message , Doug Rabson writ
es:
>I think you misunderstand. Some of us old-timers have been having this
>discussion repeatedly for well over ten years.
s/ten/fifteen/ :-)
--
Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer
On 05.03.2010 14:16, Doug Rabson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message<4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su>, Alex Keda writes:
then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD or
Man
Hi
I have a system that is experiencing mild to severe packet loss.
The interfaces are configured as follows:
lagg0: bce0, bce1, bce2, bce3 lagproto lacp
lagg0 then is used as the hwdev for the vlan interfaces.
I have pf with a few queues for bandwidth management.
There isn't that much traffi
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> In message<4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su>, Alex Keda writes:
>>
>>
>>> then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD or
ManagedBSD?
>>> =)
>>> or something abstract?
>>>
>>
On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message<4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su>, Alex Keda writes:
then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD or ManagedBSD? =)
or something abstract?
You are free to use any other operating system of your choice, if you
are not ha
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:48:17 +0300, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 05.03.2010 12:59, Doug Rabson wrote:
>> On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote:
>>>
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 05.03.2010 12:
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On 05.03.2010 11:48, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 05.03.2010 12:59, Doug Rabson wrote:
>> On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote:
>>>
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
In message <4b90e171.2040...@lissyara.su>, Alex Keda writes:
>then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD or ManagedBSD? =)
>or something abstract?
You are free to use any other operating system of your choice, if you
are not happy with FreeBSD.
Don't let the door hit you on the way
On 05.03.2010 12:59, Doug Rabson wrote:
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote:
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
> thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
> Juniper, and many others'?
It isn't managed by them whatsoever.
FreeBSD is a cooperative anarchy, driven by working code and rough consensus.
That's what controls the checkins.
H
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote:
>> On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
>>>
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
>>> thus, it is not 'Free', th
On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote:
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
Juniper, and many othe
In message , Doug Rabson write
s:
>Normal business practice doesn't include
>intentionally making your customers' lives difficult - if you make a
>habit of it they tend to go elsewhere.
Right, but as Sun has so definitively shown, you don't do your
customers any service either, by being mortally
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
>> consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
> thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
> Juniper, and many others'?
It might be helpful to think of them as 'custom
In message , Robert Watso
n writes:
>[...] it's that changes in layout
>come with a less visible but much larger cost than "svn mv".
Really stupid question: Doesn't svn support symlinks ?
--
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p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956
F
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message , Robert
Watso n writes:
Doing that kind of rearrangement [...] would be a nightmare for anyone with
large [...] patches, so I'd say we could pretty much rule that out
outright.
I would say that we should do it occasionally, to encou
On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp,
Juniper, and many others'?
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On 03/05/10 00:02, Rui Paulo wrote:
This code is fine from a quick review. It just needs a few style fixes.
We could probably start thinking about committing it.
I think thompsa@ already merged the non-host-ap version of run(4) to HEAD.
I haven't had free time to look at this yet, but I'm
In message , Robert Watso
n writes:
>Doing that kind of rearrangement [...] would be a nightmare for
>anyone with large [...] patches, so I'd say we could pretty much rule
>that out outright.
I would say that we should do it occasionally, to encourage these
FreeBSD users to contribute as many
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, paradox wrote:
so, I really do not understand why it is so difficult to move a few folders
in the shared folder is a big problem as is done in openbsd and netbsd
http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/arch/?only_with_tag=MAIN
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Xin LI wrote:
One good thing (in my opinion) that NetBSD and Darwin have is that they have
a "common" tree which holds the common files that shared between kernel and
userland libc. Currently we have 2 or more copies of certain files in the
tree but I'm not sure if it's a
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