Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-23 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 05:07:42PM -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: Hmm I don't have any NetBSD machines running the later 1.5 revisions yet, so I've not seen the new scripts, lynx ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-current/src/etc/rc.d/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: -current hangs during boot

2000-10-22 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 04:14:08PM +0800, Donny Lee wrote: with the mfs enable, it hangs there right after FILESYSTEM checking, and with random_load set to YES, it hangs at ldconfig. mount_mfs is blocking on "rndblk". Our /dev/*random is fubar'ed *again*. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: m4 not in build tools for make world

2000-10-22 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 01:01:57AM +0200, Rogier R. Mulhuijzen wrote: I don't know if m4 should be in the build tools that are made during make world, but it isn't. No it shouldn't. And because I had the GNU m4 installed as m4 and not gm4 the building of the boot blocks went belly up

Re: gcc and FreeBSD [was: Re: Which GCC in CURRENT? [Was: Re: Wine update]]

2000-10-18 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 04:40:53PM -0400, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Should any of you have some time to spend, those two PRs I mentioned above are really critical. hinthint g I have issues with one of them -- IMHO FSF/GCC should not assume the existence of crt{i,n}.o since they supply their

Re: Which GCC in CURRENT? [Was: Re: Wine update]

2000-10-18 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 01:21:33PM +0200, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Szilveszter Adam wrote: Also, since 2.96 has not even been released yet, I assume the maintainer (bruce, AFAIK) just makes sure that it builds and compiles stuff OK and so by the time 5.0 will be released

Re: Our kernel just got too big again. :)

2000-10-15 Thread David O'Brien
Mike Smith points out that removing `vpo' kills parallel port Zip drives. Is this something we can live w/o for installs? Index: dokern.sh === RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/scripts/dokern.sh,v retrieving revision 1.35 diff

Re: /boot partition?

2000-10-15 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 07:18:05PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: Nope, the loader can load stuff from other partitions, even from some strange ones like msdos ;), so theoretically it should be possible to have /boot, or even /boot/kernel, on another partition (it may require to tweak loader

Re: removing global from tree

2000-10-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:01:59AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: In revision 1.148 of src/usr.bin/Makefile, the hook for building global was removed. This was 3.5 month ago. Is it time to move src/contrib/global and src/usr.bin/global into the attic? Wow, that is still there. I forgot about

Re: Our kernel just got too big again. :)

2000-10-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 01:54:39PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: We've blown out the kern.flp image. Time for me to chop something out again, unless there are any other suggestions. :| Mind if I commit this patch? Index: dokern.sh

Re: removing global from tree

2000-10-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 10:32:11PM +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote: Backing out an rm'ed file should be as difficult as doing the sequence I just tested to make sure: F=toberemoved.txt Coming up with the "F" list can be more than just ``ls -R /home/ncvs/src/contrib/global'' as older versions

Re: Our kernel just got too big again. :)

2000-10-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 01:54:39PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: We've blown out the kern.flp image. Time for me to chop something out again, unless there are any other suggestions. :| Things the Alpha has already diked out: ncr SYS* (not just SYSVMSG) lpt \ ppi / should not be needed for

Re: make installkernel broken by recent manpage changes

2000-10-08 Thread David O'Brien
=== joy install -C -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 joy.ko /boot/kernel install -C -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 joy.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 install: joy.8.gz: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Since the manpages are being moved elsewhere, I went ahead and removed them from the

Re: cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 10:19:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of the time. Given where you live, you might want to try cvsup7, Hey! That's the one I use -- don't tell anyone about it. :-))) Where is cvsup8? I get the fastest ping times to it. A traceroute implies it is also in

Re: downgrade to stable?

2000-10-07 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 12:04:15PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: and then looking for libraries that are too new. Would one not want to keep the libraries that are too new for things in /usr/local that would need them. Since the shlib symlink will be for the "older" lib, there really isn't any

Re: make installkernel broken by recent manpage changes

2000-10-07 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 01:27:08PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: === joy install -C -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 joy.ko /boot/kernel install -C -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 joy.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 install: joy.8.gz: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 I'll check it out. -- --

Re: panic in ufs_extattr_uepm_destroy()

2000-10-06 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:41:29AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: Index: ffs_vfsops.c === RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c,v retrieving revision 1.129 diff -u -r1.129 ffs_vfsops.c --- ffs_vfsops.c 2000/10/04

Re: Today -current broken on build

2000-10-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 12:14:25PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: Er, this is probably the wrong fix. It sounds like the kernel 'callout' structure is ending up visible in userland, which it shouldn't. The build was broken by the inclusion of machine/mutex.h in sys/sys/mbuf.h rev 1.56.

Re: Today -current broken on build

2000-10-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 02:24:12PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: The build was silently broken by AMD including sys/mbuf.h previously. It wasn't exposed until recently. The correct fix was still to not include sys/mbuf.h anywhere in AMD (or anywhere else in userland for that matter). Yes I

Re: Today -current broken on build

2000-10-01 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 12:14:25PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: I hate to spoil the moment ... but does anyone have an idea what the fix is? g Nothing in the amd directory seems to have changed in the past couple of weeks, so it must be somewhere else, and I'm not bright enough to figure

Re: /modules vs. /boot/kernel

2000-09-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 10:04:34PM -0400, John DeBoskey wrote: Question, is /modules still valid? Yes. It should be used for 3rd party modules only. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the

Re: Kernel builds to wrong location?

2000-09-25 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 10:54:22PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: I cvsupped and rebuilt earlier to today, only to find that the kernel was installed as /boot/kernel/kernel instead of /boot/kernel/kernel.ko. While fixing this was trivial, it was a bit of a surprise. Is this a bug, or did I happen

Re: .indent.pro for KNF?

2000-09-24 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 08:24:44PM +0200, Blaz Zupan wrote: Does anybody have a .indent.pro file for indent(1) that enforces KNF style as specified in style(9)? From Bruce Evans, this is " a wrapper around indent(1) to print the percentage changes that indent with the best (least bad)

Re: Please consider some cosmetic changes in boot messages

2000-09-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 06:28:05PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: I'm also not sure where the rumors about a FreeBSD 4.1.5 got started since I'd certainly never planned on such a thing, that, I think, 4.1.1 rather than 4.1.5 please. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Latest kernel/module restructuring

2000-09-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 06:11:20PM +0200, Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen wrote: Hmm, how about those of us doing buildworlds/buildkernels on one (nfs)server for subsequent installworlds/installkernels on multiple other machines? Use the `make reinstall' target with KERNEL_KO set to the name of the

** HEADS UP ** kernel changed to /boot/kernel/kernel.ko

2000-09-05 Thread David O'Brien
I just committed a change to the loader and kernel Makefiles such that the kernel is now named "kernel.ko" and it the modules live in ``/boot/kernel'' (and ``/boot/kernel.old''). After your next world build, the loader will not load ``/kernel'' by default, so you want to make sure you build and

Re: HEADS UP: SMP code commit iminent

2000-09-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:58:32PM -0700, Jason Evans wrote: this email is a minimum 24 hour notice that SMP code will be committed to -current. What is the status of the Alpha bits? Will we have a working kernel after the commit, or should we site tight for a week while the Alpha bits are

Re: HEADS UP: SMP code commit iminent

2000-09-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:57:05PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: Jason- I think we'd all appreciate a UTC timestamp suitable for -D that we can all use to checkout stuff prior to the big change. There will be a TAG for that to make life easier. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To

Re: streams module no longer compiles

2000-09-01 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 10:24:46PM -0700, George W. Dinolt wrote: If I read things correctly you relocated the svr4 pieces from sys to sys/compat in todays -CURRENT. It appears that the streams module depends on several include files which you moved. As a result, the streams module no longer

Re: Buildworld errors....

2000-08-31 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 02:02:57PM -0400, Donn Miller wrote: See the attached "errors". === librsausa sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 librsaUSA.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 librsaUSA.so.1

Re: How do i activate /boot/device.hints in loader.conf?

2000-08-30 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 11:49:25AM +, Justin Ovens [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I have a little Q: when i compile my kernel for 5.0-CURRENT [root@calloc:/usr/src/sys/compile/CALLOC]# make install You must activate /boot/device.hints in loader.conf. *** Error code 1 How do i activate

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-29 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 06:29:21PM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 10:25:26AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: At the very least, there appears to be confusion about how to use the hints. I can see two conflicting views here: 1. You must have a /boot/device.hints file, but

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 08:24:50AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: Well, yeah, I'd expect that. I'm still trying to figure out what *good* failing to compile unless there's an empty /boot/device.hints The kernel does not fail to *BUILD*. ``make install'' is what fails. I agree that the requirement

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-23 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:36:56PM +0100, Konstantin Chuguev wrote: Do you use /usr/local for anything? Yes, local stuff. IMHO, the Ports Collection using /usr/local was the biggest mistake of it. The ports collection should have used /usr/pkg/ as NetBSD does. I have to create

Re: Build breakage (was: fail to compile kernel...)

2000-08-13 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 01:14:09AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: : Won't the 'cvs diff' command tell you about such things? If not, : that's yet another argument for ditching cvs in favor of something : without so many flaws (like Perforce). Not when the files are in multiple different

Re: make world breakage

2000-08-04 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 08:24:30PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 10:16:32AM -0700, Scott Flatman wrote: In file included from /u1/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/mdebugread.c:2774: mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 99 conflicts from

Re: make world breakage

2000-08-04 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 08:38:17PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David O'Brien" writes: Quite sorry, my contrib/gdb/ activities were suppose to be shielded from users. And vice-versa I presume :-) G. I should go back to bed -- that's wh

Re: Loss of fetch(1) functionality with libfetch

2000-08-04 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 01:26:01PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whilst the environment is somewhat safer than the command line, I'd still prefer not to have passwords embedded in environment variables. Since ps(1) no longer allows users to view

Re: -current buildkernel problems.

2000-08-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 12:04:19PM -0400, Rex A. Roof wrote: /tmp/ccv99837.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/ccv99837.s:772: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/ccv99837.s:837: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction After searching the mailing lists

Re: DOS emulation

2000-08-01 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 06:13:30PM +0200, Piotr Wo?niak wrote: I have to run programs in Clipper/DOS under FreeBSD. If this is character based, I have the best luck running Quicken for MS-DOS using the ``pcemu'' port. Bochs is way much slower, and doscmd also would work for me with this

Re: Mozilla-M15+ipv6 package available

2000-07-31 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 01:39:29AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: A few people have asked me for this, so I uploaded a package of the mozilla-M15+ipv6 port from KAME to ..snip.. The patches aren't quite suitable for committing to the ports collection because they unconditionally enable support

Re: new libstdc++ works?

2000-07-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 09:48:15PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems new libstdc++ called libstdc++-v3 (http://gcc.gnu.org/) was released around this April. I don't know that I would call it in a released state yet. libstdc++ v2 is still the one that is offical part of GCC 2.96. Is

Re: buildworld failure

2000-07-24 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 02:49:02PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Did we bump the libc version number when the strtofflags/fflagstostr functions went in? Nope, the added functionality didn't change any of the existing interfaces, so it no longer meets our requirements for a shlib version bump.

Re: DHCP client problem?

2000-07-24 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 01:58:47PM +0900, Seigo Tanimura wrote: Did you see this log? On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 02:53:11 -0700 (PDT), "David E. O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'll take a look at this on Monday. Thanks! for the bug reports -- just what I wanted to hear before I thought about a

Re: HEADS UP: cvs commit: src/lib/libftpio Makefile (fwd)

2000-07-08 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 06:05:50PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: This is *not* the same as the a.out behavior which searched directories to find the largest number. ELF uses the symlinks and no searching, which is why ld and ld-elf.so is faster when locating directories and does not need ldconfig

Re: /sys hierarchy

2000-07-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 03:53:12PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Good point. For the linuxulator this has been discussed before and something in the line off... ...came out of it. Even before you get an Alpha, would you be able to seperate the Linux bits before 4.1-R so the 4.x sys/ tree

Re: /sys hierarchy

2000-07-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 12:47:06PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: I could do this before I have an Alpha assuming that we don't need a working Alpha port yet. The question is if we have enough time for it? On the other hand, it doesn't have to be perfect, as long as the i386 port works...

Re: /sys hierarchy

2000-07-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 12:36:59AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: Current directory structure: sys/ ${MACHINE_ARCH}/ - MD stuff conf/ - MD kernel config files ${MACHINE_ARCH}/- MD code include/- MD includes ... - various MD

Re: /sys hierarchy

2000-07-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 10:44:22AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: compile/ - no change I'd change this into compile/${MACHINE_ARCH} so that a single shared source tree can be used to build [alpha,i386] kernels. In the current setup one gets clashes with GENERIC etc. AS much

Re: /sys hierarchy

2000-07-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 01:31:28PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: : cd blah is currently : cd ../../compile/${KERNNAME} : it becomes : cd /usr/obj/`pwd`/${KERNNAME} My take on this is that it would make it slightly harder to develop kernel stuff in the tree. I don't like that prospect, and I

Re: make buildworld failed...

2000-07-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 01:09:25AM +0400, Sergey Osokin wrote: cc -O2 -pipe -march=pentium -DUNIX -fwritable-strings -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/games/rogue/thw.c You are adding to the long list of people that are about to make totally remove -02+ from GCC. FreeBSD only

Re: /sys hierarchy

2000-07-01 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 01:26:17PM -0400, Will Andrews wrote: On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 07:14:35PM +0400, Ilmar S. Habibulin wrote: Some order, i suppose. There is plenty of order in the current system. Feh. Garrett Wollman suggested that you answer this question carefully, and you have

Re: current kernel build probs

2000-07-01 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 03:31:04PM +0200, B.O.F.H. at kessen.yi.org wrote: on june 30th I ftped the current kernel tree from ftp.uk.freebsd.org to test it on my 4.0-2608-stable machine. Huh... you are now mixing a 5-CURRENT (ie, CVS head branch) kernel source with a 4-STABLE (ie,

Re: bug: kernel hangs at boot

2000-06-30 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 06:29:11AM -0700, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: The reason found. I have "-O2 pipe" instead of default "-O pipe", but I have it working all the time from very beginning. Why this becomes broken? Because the code change now triggers one of the bugs that has made us always

Re: On the modules

2000-06-30 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 06:59:35PM +0300, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: When I was compiling the modules I face the following situation. While its possible to compile kernel even with -O3 -pipe, the modules still copmpiled with -O -pipe. Where I can change this? You know this is unsupported

Re: Strange make buildworld problem...

2000-06-29 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 07:54:17PM -0400, Donn Miller wrote: make: don't know how to make /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/sys/types.h. Stop *** Error code 2 This is what I got when I tried to ``make -DNOCLEAN buildworld'' after the Perl 5.006 upgrade. Perl is being built at the wrong time,

Re: The position of {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf

2000-06-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 09:28:31PM +0900, Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: I'd like to move {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf from src/release to src/release/$MACHINE because it needs to use different configuration file between PC/AT and PC-98 to decrease the size of PC-98 fixit.flp to 1.2MB. In

Re: The position of {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf

2000-06-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 08:11:22PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: Seconded. But Maybe at some point in time we should decide CD[R] is the load medium of choice for Alpha. Or? That would mostly prevent Net installs, and anyone installing snapshots from current.freebsd.org. Do we really want to hang

Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile)

2000-06-27 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:08:15AM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: What you say supports the theory that build-tools is the answer; however build-tools seems to want to do an in-place build - not to install the tool(s) somewhere into the path like cross-tools. I'm in trouble with cross-tools

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:55:47PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: I must say I'm not all that comfortable with this series of commits - I was expecting this to stay in Mark's tree until it at least tries to do everything the old driver did. Weakening system security like this for an

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 10:17:27PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: 2) With the SMP "Destabilization" of the tree coming, I took the opportunity because a) Merging differences was going to get harder; and b) folk were already warned off the use off CURRENT for production purposes.

Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device!

2000-06-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:35:12PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: 3) It is not built by default (except as a kernel module), so you either need to add the "options RANDOMDEV" like to your kernel config, or load it at boot time in /dev/loader.conf Can't things be made to autoload random.ko as

Re: building stable from current

2000-06-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 10:12:28PM -0400, Kent Hauser wrote: For the last while (several months), whenever I try to build a RELENG_4 release from my -current box, it fails building gcc. Yes. (but it should only have been for the past 1.5 mos). There are two ways to fix it. One will be done

Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile)

2000-06-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:28:53PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: Since I'm now through it, I don't know the latest problem, but the last thing I saw that the old lib got used with the new perl (or the other way round) and that looks like it can be fixed with some path adjustments. The

Re: fsck wrappers

2000-06-19 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 01:42:33PM +0200, Adrian Chadd wrote: I've ported the NetBSD fsck wrapper to compile and run under FreeBSD. Can you summerize what this does, or does better than what we do today? -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

** HEADS UP ** Binutils upgrade in 1 hour

2000-06-18 Thread David O'Brien
In about an hour, I will be upgrading Binutils to 2.10 release. This will take several hours to do. During this time, you may not want to CVSup. -- -- David([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: ** HEADS UP ** Binutils upgrade in 1 hour

2000-06-18 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 11:57:04AM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: Any chance this will make -Os kernel compiles work again? No clue. The Binutils that -CURRENT currently has is a snapshot of the 2.10 release branch (from Sourceware's anoncvs server). There is only 1.5 mo's. difference

** HEADS UP ** upgrade to Binutils 2.10 postponed

2000-06-18 Thread David O'Brien
Due to an issue of being able to tell just what the official Binutils 2.10 source is, I've put off the upgrade. Hopefully I can do it tomorrow. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: static linked files in /usr/bin

2000-06-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 12:42:42PM +0400, Juriy Goloveshkin wrote: but /usr/bin and /usr/lib usualy live at the same filesystem and if /usr/lib may be broken, what we may say about /usr/bin? Statically linked binaries in /usr/bin/ will still be usable. You didn't think about what I said. Tar

Re: static linked files in /usr/bin

2000-06-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 09:00:34PM +0400, Juriy Goloveshkin wrote: Why a lot of files in /usr/bin(sbin) are static linked? for example, tar: static - 272832 bytes(83416 dynamic) IMO tar should live in /bin as it is used to restore a system from tape. I don't know why ``dump'' is in /usr/sbin

Re: 4.x buildworlds broken on -current

2000-06-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 04:43:41PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: Building old kernels under -current is becoming difficult. I build kernels for RELENG_3 and RELENG_4. This causes a lot of new warnings about invalid assembler, but still works, at least a week ago. Don't worry, the plan is to

make release broken on Alpha

2000-06-07 Thread David O'Brien
make release is breaking in the crunch gen'ing: gzip -cn /usr/src/release/sysinstall/sysinstall.8 sysinstall.8.gz install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sysinstall /stand install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 sysinstall.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 rm -rf /R/stage/crunch mkdir -p /R/stage/crunch

Re: Oddities with the new binutils

2000-06-04 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 04:42:29PM +0930, Matthew Thyer wrote: Three issues: - floating point math doesn't seem to work properly: - backward compatibility: - stability: Are others seeing these issues? These issues make me think that the new binutils is not yet ready for -STABLE. It

Re: Oddities with the new binutils

2000-06-04 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 10:24:24AM +0930, Matthew Thyer wrote: Has anyone tried the specific instructions I gave to reproduce the problem ? These instructions do things at too high a level. i.e.: - make world - making and installing a new kernel - mergemaster - reboot All

Re: kerneld for -current

2000-05-31 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 10:17:22AM -0400, Yevmenkin, Maksim N, CSCIO wrote: is there any interest in ``kerneld'' (a-la Linux) for FreeBSD? i've got some working prototype Could you summerize what it offers and does? -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Disclaimer: Not speaking for

Re: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 10

2000-05-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 05:05:29AM +, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: You need to apply the patch and remake /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd and then /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld . I'll pass this onto the Binutils people. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 10

2000-05-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 08:32:30PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: If it works, then I think it should be committed in the usual way for this stuff: Filtered through David O'Brien... Give me a few days if you can. (if people think that is unacceptable, please let me know) I've forwarded

Re: Kernel making problems

2000-05-27 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 11:09:00AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: You need to build and install a new world before a new kernel. It looks like this needs to go into src/UPDATING. Actually just the following will also fix the problem: cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils make obj make

Re: FW: GDB 5.0 is released!

2000-05-26 Thread David O'Brien
GDB 5.0 is released! Do you have any forecasts as to when we will see this baby in the -current? Its priority is behind GCC 2.96 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: FW: GDB 5.0 is released!

2000-05-25 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 01:02:28PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: GDB 5.0 is released! You can download GDB from either Project GNU's FTP server, or Red Hat's sources site: Or ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/sourceware/gdb/ -- -- David([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Major device numbers and mem device redesign

2000-05-21 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 09:53:18AM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: I want to commit a new /dev/random RSN, so I'll be needing a major device; Why can't you just rip out the existing random stuff and put in your new stuff -- keeping the major and minor numbers the same? -- -- David ([EMAIL

Re: Major device numbers and mem device redesign

2000-05-21 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 09:53:18AM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: I want to commit a new /dev/random RSN, Forgot to mention, please keep in mind this needs to be MI. sys/kern_random.c (which was sys/i386/isa/random_machdep.c) still is *very* ugly from a MI point of view. Any changes to

Re: -current buildworld breakage

2000-05-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 12:51:42AM +0900, Shigeyuki Fukushima wrote: My system is 4.0-CURRENT at Jan 31. I try to upgrade it to -current (5-current), but I get the following breakage. Is my system environment broken? I think so. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Disclaimer: Not

Re: OpenSSH 2.1

2000-05-16 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:54:52PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: Err, well it still requires openssl, which I think is firmly rooted in the crypto distribution as long as we have one. Even so, moving SSH into the bindist would be one less thing that has to be merged into Internat all the time.

Re: make(1) patches to bypass quietness prescribed by @-prefixed commands in Makefiles

2000-05-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 03:46:40PM -0400, Will Andrews wrote: Ok, what do other people think? I mean, it'd be easy to change the flag to use this feature. -dl seems fine for this particular feature. -dX is a better place to put this than "-l", as this is a debugging feature. -- -- David

Re: make(1) patches to bypass quietness prescribed by @-prefixed commands in Makefiles

2000-05-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 02:50:02PM -0500, Steve Price wrote: I too like this idea and along the lines of what Lyndon suggested how about the attached patch instead? This is a better patch to the proposed functionality. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: Make World kdump failure

2000-05-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 05:02:48PM +, Andrew M. Miklic wrote: I'm getting a "make world" failure with Alpha -current (cvsup'ed fresh as of a few minutes ago, although this problem has persisted for over a week, as far as I can tell)..it seems to be dying in kdump, strangely apparently on

Re: Review and commit of bin/14911?

2000-05-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 01:14:19PM -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Could someone with commit privs please take a look at bin/14911? I'd You might get more interest if you mention what the PR fixes. -- -- David([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Small fix for compile error with internat crypto code

2000-05-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 04:41:09PM +0900, Munehiro Matsuda wrote: When run 'make -j4 buildworld' with internat crypto code installed, I get following error: mkdir: openssl: File exists *** Error code 1 - @test -d openssl || mkdir -p openssl + -@mkdir -p openssl The "-" is not

Re: Small fix for compile error with internat crypto code

2000-05-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 06:34:08AM -0700, Eugene M. Kim wrote: I guess, although it could be fine if we had a flag to mkdir(1) that makes it just succeed when there's already a directory of the same name. Yes, that is "-p". To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: One more question (different now)

2000-05-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 12:48:40PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: In the US, how do I get the same thing for C++? http://web.ansi.org/public/std_info.html Search for "C++": ISO/IEC 14882:1998 Programming languages - C++ $ 305 ISO/IEC 14882-1998 Information Technology - Programming Languages - C++

Re: Undocumented tape devices in pax(1)

2000-05-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 08:54:50PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: wst and ast are weird names. Doesn't the "s" in them stand for "SCSI" and not "streaming", so wst is the so-called-Winchester (non-SCSI) SCSI It does to me. But McKusick's mail I forwarded says "s" was for "streaming". -- --

Re: a better idea for package dependencies

2000-05-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 06:30:17PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Actually, it has to do with the pkg_ commands, which I believe are built when you make world... yes. and aren't part of the ports, And are only used for Ports. Thus their behavior defines the behavior of the Ports

Re: a better idea for package dependencies

2000-05-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:23:09PM -0400, Adam wrote: And are only used for Ports. Thus their behavior defines the behavior of the Ports Collection. Thus it is a Ports issue. IF the pkg_* utils were ports, how would you install them?? Am I missing something? I thought ports only need

Re: rc.d startup scripts

2000-05-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 12:12:44PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Yeah, I was just joking, I kinda like some things about SVR4, but I still think it would be nice to keep the option of using some of the regular rc scripts that we have now. What I am prosing aguments what we have today (in

Re: a better idea for package dependencies

2000-05-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:36:03PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: Not necessarily, and certainly not in the very beginning. I remember a number of times seeing a third-party software vendor who provided their product in that form, just as many third-party vendors now ship *.rpm files (and

Re: a better idea for package dependencies

2000-05-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 03:24:25PM -0400, Adam wrote: I cant comment on the complexity of registering a port as an installed package because I havent read the code, but it doesnt look too complex according to whats in /var/db/pkg... perhaps more makefile things could be done to register a

Re: a better idea for package dependencies

2000-05-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 05:01:02PM -0400, Adam wrote: Since you claim superior knowledge about ports than me, I wont bother explaining it. I'm only trying to satisfy your original question. " IF the pkg_* utils were ports, how would you install them??" I said that to make you think

Re: One more question (different now)

2000-05-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:27:10PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: The only answer I've seen for this one is to kick, hard, whoever it was that added -Wcast-qual to the kernel options. Or we should just delete it from the options. -- -- David([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: world breakage in usr.bin/kdump

2000-05-08 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 11:36:45PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: /usr/include/sys/wormio.h:102: warning: `CDRIOCBLANK' redefined /usr/include/sys/cdrio.h:59: warning: this is the location of the In the old days cd /usr/src ; make -DCLOBBER includes would do what needs to be done. (the

Re: make release failure during ports

2000-05-08 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 07:15:56PM -0400, John W. DeBoskey wrote: fyi... === Creating README.html for tkrat-1.2 === mail/tkrat2 This belongs in [EMAIL PROTECTED], NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the

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