extended slices on 5.0-RELEASE?

2003-02-03 Thread Mike Meyer
[I asked this on -questions, and got no response, so...] Is it just me, or has disklabel lost the ability to read/write from extended slices in 5.0-RELEASE? mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix

RE: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-03 Thread Mike Meyer
as well. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Mike Meyer
. It would require reworking the comments in the files in /etc/defaults, and a little more discipline in editing them, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant

Re: FreeBSD-SA-01:19.local

2001-02-01 Thread Mike Meyer
John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Isn't it early for april fool's? Nah. Easter eggs are in the shops. And the fools are forging mail. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce

Re: /etc/shells #include syntax support patch

2001-01-29 Thread Mike Meyer
him about it. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" i

Re: patch for test: /etc/shells - /usr/local/etc/shells

2001-01-26 Thread Mike Meyer
for shells added later, whether from ports or elsewhere. And I want the shed crimson with cream trim. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send

Why would my IRQs suddenly move?

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Meyer
with the BIOS either. Anyone got a clue as to why the IRQ would change? Is there anything in FreeBSD that could change it? Thanx, mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more

Re: Why would my IRQs suddenly move?

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Meyer
-- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Why would my IRQs suddenly move?

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: After installing a fresh cvsup last Sunday, I find that my usb printer quit working. Some investigation shows that this is because the uhci and fxp are now on the same IRQ. Why would this cause your printer

Re: VN bug or pilot error ?

2001-01-22 Thread Mike Meyer
e RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: lastest kernel from cvs ( sh exists with signal 8 )

2001-01-22 Thread Mike Meyer
for disaster right now). Could you also make sure it makes it into /etc/defaults/make.conf (KERNEL isn't mentioned there at all) and make.conf(5)? Thanx, mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix

Re: lastest kernel from cvs ( sh exists with signal 8 )

2001-01-22 Thread Mike Meyer
John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On 22-Jan-01 Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Meyer writes: : Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: : It is in the handbook, and has been for some time. I'm reviewing the : recent KERNEL - KERNCONF changes to make sure

Re: current hangs...

2001-01-20 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: on a 2xPII/350, 256M, two scsi disks on ahc, and ccd I have three times now hung the machine so that only reset got any attention simply by make -j 128 world Do you have an easy way to narrow it down to CCD by doing the same thing but without ccd

/usr/local vs. /usr/pkg

2000-12-12 Thread Mike Meyer
Andreas Klemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 12:37:54AM -0500, David Gilbert wrote: ... but /usr/pkg supplanting /usr/local is one of the things that I like about NetBSD. /usr/pkg sounds a little bit odd ... ( at least for my ears). Why not choose what Solaris uses

Re: /usr/local abuse

2000-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:33:33PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: The thing is, the package system has grown into something more than that. It really is vendor-supplied and vendor-supported third party software, and part of the distribution. I can back

Re: Applix problems (Was: /usr/local abuse)

2000-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 08:14:47AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: The problem is that the shared libraries aren't getting found when I run the applix binary after a reboot. Why do you say that? Where is the error message?? I say that because 1

Re: Applix problems (Was: /usr/local abuse)

2000-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 05:24:19PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: At that point, you're running VistaSource's software, so they should give you the details. Then I'll just back out of trying to help figure out why many others can run it outside of /usr

Re: [current] Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
Michael C . Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: I know I should not jump into this bikeshed. But IMHO, whereever we have our packages install to, we should also place our ports metadata (/var/db/pkg) and the ports skeleton in the same place, preferably a mountpoint. This allow me to switch between

Applix problems (Was: /usr/local abuse)

2000-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:42:37PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: On the other hand, Applixware Office ships a precompiled package for /usr/local, and doesn't like being installed anywhere else. Which means I've got a couple of hundred megabytes being

Re: /usr/local misuse (Was: Confusing error messages from shell image activation)

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Meyer writes: : I know. Unfortunately, support for PREFIX seems to draw more lip : service than actual service. Actually, which ports, specically, doesn't this work with? I've installed several ports with PREFIX defined

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Daniel C. Sobral [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: Mike Meyer wrote: Rant second: FreeBSD *violates* years of traditions with it's treatment of /usr/local. /usr/local is for *local* things, not add-on software packages! Coopting /usr/local for non-local software creates needless complexity

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Garrett Wollman [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:37:53 -0600 (CST), Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: However, FreeBSD is still the only vendor distribution I know of that installs software in /usr/local. That's the problem - software that comes from the vendor doesn't

/usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Joe Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: Mike Meyer writes: If memory serves (and it may not at this remove), /usr/local/bin wasn't on my path until I started using VAXen, meaning there were few or no packages installing in /usr/local on v6 v7 on the 11s. If you remember v6 and v7

Re: Package installation location

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Forrest Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: Haha... okay, then what's the argument about. You're about six years late. The ports system has used $PREFIX for precisely this purpose since October 1994. As Jacques pointed out, you set LOCALBASE in /etc/make.conf. The problem is that *it doesn't

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Nat Lanza [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whether or not it's part of FreeBSD is immaterial. It's part of the distribution that comes from FreeBSD, and is treated differentlyh from locally installed software (whether written locally or by a third party

Re: Package installation location

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Brian Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 01:02:09PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: The problem is that *it doesn't work*. Well, not very well. Part of it is that it's only given lip service: the porters handbook says "make your ports PREFIX clean"; portlint does

Re: /usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Joe Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: Mike Meyer writes: Sure, the software in ports/packages aren't part of FreeBSD. Using that to claim they should have the same status or treatment as locally written or maintained software is a rationalization. You are simply wrong in your

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: This control is part of why it would be nice to have /usr/pkg separate from /usr/local. I've given up on FreeBSD and had to create my own /usr/treats to hold what should have been in /usr/local if the FreeBSD Packages hadn't polluted it. I went the

Re: /usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Joe Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: David O'Brien writes: On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:22:17AM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: Basically, /usr/local is for anything the local administration wants to officially support. The ports use of this (and by extension, pre-compiled ports

PREFIX clean vs. LOCALBASE clean (Was: Package installation location)

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: Wherease "PREFIX clean" means "all installed files are in the PREFIX tree", Correct. I intend "LOCALBASE clean" to mean "all files installed by other ports are looked for in the LOCALBASE tree". If all ports are PREFIX clean, you will have

Re: /usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Crist J. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 01:51:25PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:26:38PM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: To the extent that NetBSD *forces* the local administrator to use /usr/pkg, I find it contains the same deficiency. Nope.

Re: PREFIX clean vs. LOCALBASE clean (Was: Package installation location)

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 02:19:12PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: I intend "LOCALBASE clean" to mean "all files installed by other ports are looked for in the LOCALBASE tree". If all ports are PREFIX clean, you will have that.

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Nate Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: I'm aware that software was installing itself in /usr/local years before it was installing in /opt. On the other hand, vendor software was installing in /opt years before I ever saw it install in /usr/local. Most vendor software I know pre-dates

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Andrew Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:31:10PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: Not /usr/local - that's for locally maintained software. I'd rather it go on /usr, so I don't like /opt. When I got to choose, I chose /usr/opt. But anything other than /usr/local on /usr

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Nate Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: I ran mostly DEC boxes until the early 90s, which had all software installed in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin. Well, I ran DEC boxes for Dec (at WSE) back in the late 80s and early 90s, and don't remember anything being in /usr/local that I didn't drag of

/usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Nate Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: By your own admission, /usr/local wasn't used on v7. So the discussion should turn to when BSD started seeing prebuilt vendor packages to install in /usr/local. Late '80s on DEC boxes running Ultrix (which one could argue is one of the

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Andrew Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 09:46:46PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote: Fixing broken things is a good thing. Your argument about moving it from /usr/local to show how broken is a good test procedure, but turning it into policy is something completely

/usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nate Williams writes: : I know that as recent as 3=4 years ago, Purify installed itself by : default in /usr/local, on SunOS and Solaris. Lucid did this as well, : although things start getting pretty fuzzy going back that

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-09 Thread Mike Meyer
Brandon D. Valentine [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: There are other places where FreeBSD doesn't comply with the appropriate standard - packages vs. FHS, for instance. I claim that We don't seek to comply with the arbitrarily devised linux filesystem standard. We comply with hier(5), a standard

/usr/local misuse (Was: Confusing error messages from shell image activation)

2000-12-09 Thread Mike Meyer
fixed. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Unix/FreeBSD consultant,email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: /usr/local misuse (Was: Confusing error messages from shell image activation)

2000-12-09 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 01:59:51PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: I know. Unfortunately, support for PREFIX seems to draw more lip service than actual service. I disagree. If one of the ports I maintain isn't PREFIX-clean, let me know and it _will_

Re: USB modem?

2000-12-01 Thread Mike Meyer
involved. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Unix/FreeBSD consultant,email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: your mail

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 07:41:14PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: Hmm - what's the stupidity? I have a test machine running both -current and -stable Do you have the two FreeBSD installations on the same disk? If so, I'd love to hear how you did it. I

Re: USB modem?

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Meyer
, ...), and you use it just like a tty line tied to an external modem. mike -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Unix/FreeBSD consultant,email for rates. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubs

Re: your mail

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "David O'Brien" writes: : Except for stupidity in libdisk(I believe) and thus sysinstall, there is : no, none, zero reason why one cannot have two installations of FreeBSD in : two different slices on the same disk. I've done

Re: your mail

2000-11-29 Thread Mike Meyer
the stupidity? I have a test machine running both -current and -stable (and NetBSD-current, Solaris, Linux, and last and least Win98), and haven't encountered any problems with it. mike -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Unix/FreeBSD

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-11-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: * Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001122 22:41] wrote: Could I get some feedback on URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22755 ? It's just a one-line kernel patch with some attendant updates in the kernel and libc, but it makes dealing

Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-11-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Could I get some feedback on URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22755 ? It's just a one-line kernel patch with some attendant updates in the kernel and libc, but it makes dealing with broken #! scripts *much* saner, and no one has even seen fit to comment on it yet :-(.

/dev/random thoughts

2000-10-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Like everyone else, I've been bit by /dev/random blocking because it didn't have enough entropy. I recently got bit after booting the system single-user to do some work, meaning nothing in the discussion about when/where/how to deal with the entropy information addressed this one. It seems like

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-25 Thread Mike Meyer
Gerhard Sittig writes: On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 06:04 +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: Though I see your point, actually, many UNIX books, including some pretty old ones, refer to sending HUP signal as standard way of restarting/resetting daemons. Please tell the software authors about it,

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-25 Thread Mike Meyer
Gerhard Sittig writes: What's new is: - include the general config at the start (and yes, in every single script -- but this should be neglectable in terms of speed penalty and makes them work separately, too -- which is a real big gain!) This isn't really new; it's been nagging me

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
Garrett Rooney writes: On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 04:49:40AM +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: Well, would not be this stepping aside from BSD startup sequence, which we all know and love? Having dozens of small files instead of pair of big ones always frustrates me when I have to work with

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
Alexey Dokuchaev writes: Well, we *already* have over a dozen /etc/rc.* files on -current. And we *don't* have the advantage of a consistent interface to control all the functions in /etc/rc. If you break things up, then if you need to restart the mail server, just go "/etc/rc.d/sendmail

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
Jordan Hubbard writes: [redirected to just -current; I'm not sure what this has to do with -net] I agree. I've been using them for a while on my dog slow Windows CE machine. There were some minor issues when they were first committed to NetBSD on some platforms (due to a too early use of

Re: smp instability

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
Chuck Robey writes: I'm having rather extreme problems with stability on my dual PIII setup. I know this is to be expected, but it's gotten so extreme on my system, I can't spend more than a few minutes before it locks up. Is there any chance that I could make things better by using a

Re: /boot partition?

2000-10-15 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien writes: On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 07:18:05PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: Nope, the loader can load stuff from other partitions, even from some strange ones like msdos ;), so theoretically it should be possible to have /boot, or even /boot/kernel, on another partition (it may

Re: /boot partition?

2000-10-14 Thread Mike Meyer
Maxim Sobolev writes: "Michael C . Wu" wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 07:22:20AM -0500, Mike Meyer scribbled: | Just curious - now that the kernel has moved into /boot/kernel/kernel, | does anyone know how well would it work to put /boot in it's own | partition (possibly i

system lockups in -current - during boot.

2000-10-14 Thread Mike Meyer
I'm getting hard lockups booting a -current kernel supped about 6 hours ago. If I try to boot multiuser, I get a message about the ethernet interface being configured, and then nothing. If I boot single user, it comes up fine, and I can configure the NIC. The system then locks up maybe 10 seconds

/boot partition?

2000-10-13 Thread Mike Meyer
Just curious - now that the kernel has moved into /boot/kernel/kernel, does anyone know how well would it work to put /boot in it's own partition (possibly in it's own slice)? Thanx, mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the

Upgrading -stable - -current, boot failure?

2000-10-11 Thread Mike Meyer
I've got a system with 4.1-STABLE installed. I mount -current sources on it, do make buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld and reboot. The boot loader runs, gives me the "booting default in..." countdown, prints "|", and then stops. After thrashing the disks (with *no* boot messages),

video mpeg broken?

2000-10-10 Thread Mike Meyer
It seems that something has broken plaympeg - at least for video. In trying to play video back, I get a black window and no images. Audio playback seems fine. This is something I don't do often, so I'm not sure when it happened. Anyone else seeing this? Anyone working on it? Thanx,

Re: video mpeg broken?

2000-10-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Nickolay Dudorov writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: It seems that something has broken plaympeg - at least for video. In trying to play video back, I get a black window and no images. Audio playback seems fine. This is something I don't do often, so I'm not sure when it

re: sio problems?

2000-10-08 Thread Mike Meyer
attila! writes: on Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:03:12 -0500 (CDT), Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I recently got my digital camera back out, and started pulling the old pictures from it. I noticed something I hadn't ever seen before - silo overflows from the sio port. At the moment, I'm

sio problems?

2000-10-07 Thread Mike Meyer
I recently got my digital camera back out, and started pulling the old pictures from it. I noticed something I hadn't ever seen before - silo overflows from the sio port. At the moment, I'm wondering if this is a known problem that is being investigated (SMPNG comes to mind), or something new.

Re: ext2fs support for writing - what's the verdict?

2000-10-05 Thread Mike Meyer
Jordan Hubbard writes: That's a nice idea and may work in my particular case, but this is also the out-of-box configuration for Red Hat and most Linux-to-FreeBSD users wouldn't know a tune2fs if it snuck up and bit them on the ass in broad daylight. How hard would it be to support sparse

Re: setting device permissions for DEVFS

2000-09-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Alexander Langer writes: Thus spake Donn Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): What is the suggested best way to set permissions on devices in DEVFS? (I want to chmod 664 /dev/acd0c to let users in the group operator burn CD-R's). Do we already have a common way that I missed? /etc/rc.devfs

Re: pw_class in _pw_passwd is null if __hashpw() is not called in prior

2000-09-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Seigo Tanimura writes: On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:55:55 -0500, "Jacques A. Vidrine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It would also be helpful for us to (semi-)automatically update old binaries installed by ports. (I have been trying this for a couple of days) Jacques Personally I don't want

Re: setting device permissions for DEVFS

2000-09-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Alexander Langer writes: Thus spake Mike Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Does it possibly belong in /etc/defaults/rc.devfs, to slurp in /etc/rc.devfs (if it exists) at the end? No - instead we should add something like devfs_permission{0,1,2,etc} (and maybe ownership) to rc.conf, which can

Re: (Semi-)automatic update of installed ports (was: Re: pw_class in _pw_passwd is null if __hashpw() is not called in prior)

2000-09-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Seigo Tanimura writes: On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 13:35:48 -0500 (CDT), Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mike Seigo Tanimura writes: Completely automatic update of installed ports is acutally difficult because we cannot get to know the language or required toolkit from the name of a binary

Re: PRE_SMPNG snap

2000-09-19 Thread Mike Meyer
Vallo Kallaste writes: On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 03:01:28PM -0500, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had a ton of experience with ahc lately, as those of you who follow -questions, -stable, or -scsi know. r1.48 of aic7xxx.c is horribly broken. I can't get current snaps after

periodic no longer usable by users?

2000-09-18 Thread Mike Meyer
It seems that recent (the last two weeks?) changes to periodic have changed things so that non-root users of it no longer get any output. A simple fix would be to change the default output to $USER (not yet tested). However, having a user-specific periodic.conf would be a lot more useful. But I

Re: PRE_SMPNG snap

2000-09-16 Thread Mike Meyer
Brandon D. Valentine writes: On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, John Baldwin wrote: Err, AFAIK, the only instability atm is that under heavy load some ahc controllers seem to hang (or possibly the ahc driver is getting out of sorts and hanging.) However, the problem is not so bad that you can't I've had

Kernel builds to wrong location?

2000-09-16 Thread Mike Meyer
I cvsupped and rebuilt earlier to today, only to find that the kernel was installed as /boot/kernel/kernel instead of /boot/kernel/kernel.ko. While fixing this was trivial, it was a bit of a surprise. Is this a bug, or did I happen to catch the world in a state of change described in a cvs-all

Re: Kernel builds to wrong location?

2000-09-16 Thread Mike Meyer
Ben Smithurst writes: Mike Meyer wrote: I cvsupped and rebuilt earlier to today, only to find that the kernel was installed as /boot/kernel/kernel instead of /boot/kernel/kernel.ko. While fixing this was trivial, it was a bit of a surprise. Is this a bug, or did I happen to catch

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Mike Meyer
Poul-Henning Kamp writes: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Smithurs t writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more than something which has a

Re: Star Office and editor

2000-09-14 Thread Mike Meyer
I just realized this may be a difference due to a between -current and -stable, so I've moved discussion to -current to check. Apologies if this was the wrong thing to do. On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Mike Meyer wrote: It then fails to install for me with the error messages: /tmp/sv001.tmp/setup.bin

Re: page fault in sched_ithd

2000-09-09 Thread Mike Meyer
Ben Smithurst writes: After poking around a bit with remote GDB, this seems to be caused by a stray IRQ 7, since irq == 7, ir == ithds[irq] == NULL, ir-foo == BOOM. The attached rather crude patch has "fixed" the problem for now, but does anyone have any suggestions for a real fix? Isn't a

Re: cvs commit: src/bin/ps print.c src/share/man/man9 mutex.9 Makefile src/usr.bin/top machine.c src/sys/alpha/alpha mp_machdep.c synch_machdep.c clock.c genassym.c interrupt.c ipl_funcs.c locore.s machdep.c mem.c pmap.c prom.c support.s swtch.s trap.c ...

2000-09-07 Thread Mike Meyer
Jason Evans writes: jasone 2000/09/06 18:33:03 PDT Modified files: bin/ps print.c [...] Nice try, but you didn't fool me. That's the SMP patch, even if the first change in the first modified file is a spelling fix in a comment in userland code! Nice to see it's

Re: AIC-7890 problems with kernel build

2000-09-04 Thread Mike Meyer
Chris Hedley writes: On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Brandon Hume wrote: Just after the "waiting for SCSI devices to settle" message, I'll get a number of SCB errors (which I don't have written down, unfortunately), and then eventually a panic. This is with ACPI enabled... if I don't enable ACPI,

Re: AIC-7890 problems with kernel build

2000-09-04 Thread Mike Meyer
Mitsuru IWASAKI writes: All I can say is that acpi is initilized after pcib and its children are attached so I don't think ACPI code affects PCI stuff... # Power management support (see LINT for more options) #device apm device acpi Could you disable acpi and

3dfx module broken

2000-09-02 Thread Mike Meyer
Looks like 3dfx linux emulation aren't mixing well. Since I don't use 3dfx, I turn off that module. What we really need is a system that lets me specify *which* modules to build. Hmmm. mike === 3dfx make: don't know how to make @/i386/linux/linux_ioctl.h. Stop *** Error code 2

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-29 Thread Mike Meyer
First, I want to thank everyone for taking the time to explain what was going on. It's now clear that I was confused, and things aren't as bad as I thought. I'd like to see the Makefile changes so that if there wasn't an empty /boot/device.hints, one was created, but that's relatively minor.

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-29 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien writes: On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 06:29:21PM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 10:25:26AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: At the very least, there appears to be confusion about how to use the 2. You must have a /boot/device.hints file, and it must contain at

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Brooks Davis writes: On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 09:33:21PM +0900, Motomichi Matsuzaki wrote: Doing 'make install' without /boot/device.hints is failed, saying "You must set up a /boot/device.hints file first." Is this right? You should read cvs-all. There was a commit by Peter which forces

Installkernel

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
James Johnson writes: The method of building and installing a kernel to me seems a bit off.. Both the buildworld and installworld targets default to GENERIC, yet GENERIC is a file checked into the -CURRENT CVS repository.. Any changes to this file will get blown away if whenever you update

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Donn Miller writes: Mike Meyer wrote: I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having an empty one keeps you from shooting yourself

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Maxim Sobolev writes: Mike Meyer wrote: Donn Miller writes: Mike Meyer wrote: I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Maxim Sobolev writes: Mike Meyer wrote: Will the system fail to boot if there isn't an empty device.hints file? No, it will boot, but some devices (like keyboard, console etc) would not work. That's clearly not true - I just removed an empty /boot/device.hints and rebooted

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-24 Thread Mike Meyer
Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami writes: * From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] * On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Mike Meyer wrote: * How does it decide whether or not a package conforms? * Probably by looking for files which get installed in /usr/local or * /usr/X11R6 instead of ${LOCALBASE

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Murray writes: However, I was wondering if there was anyone who could fix things that weren't PREFIX clean who would also find them on a regular basis. That's not you. There is a non-trivial Perl5 LOCALBASE problem that I'm trying to get my head around. If this is the problem with

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Murray writes: However, I was wondering if there was anyone who could fix things that weren't PREFIX clean who would also find them on a regular basis. That's not you. There is a non-trivial Perl5 LOCALBASE problem that I'm trying to get my head around. I'm actually discussing one

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Konstantin Chuguev writes: "Jacques A. Vidrine" wrote: On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:01:59AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: Um - why? If you removed the setting of LOCALBASE in that case, you wouldn't change the disk layout at all. I prefer installed executables, data files, and

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami writes: * From: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] * However, I was wondering if there was anyone who could fix things that * weren't PREFIX clean who would also find them on a regular * basis. That's not you. I can help you when the new package building cluster

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Warner Losh writes: Having said this, if you can come up with a foolproof way to get the ioctls right on all the drives that do support them, even the whacked out ones that need all kinds of quirky entries, and do it in a way that doesn't needlessly bloat the kernel for little gain (few

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Matthew Jacob writes: If the answer from the person who would have to approve the code had come back "Ok, provide the code and we'll see how well it works in practice", I'd do the code. But when it appears the code would never make it into the tree to be used, why waste my time? 'coz

Re: Q: encrypted swap

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Murray writes: So, I think having the option to use encrypted swap on FreeBSD would be nice. Is anybody already working on this? If not, how do I get somebody to work on it? ;-) Ever since the Phoenecians invented money, there has been at least one guaranteed answer to that :-)

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Brian Fundakowski Feldman writes: One thing that's missing is the ioctl CDRIOCSETBLOCKSIZE. It would be _really_ nice if cd(4) supported that ioctl so I could just seek and read from a CD. I had knu trying out my read_cd program, and it doesn't work for SCSI CD-ROMs, seemingly because of

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Jacques A. Vidrine writes: On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:59:26PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: I'm curious - are there any committers who regularly use a system with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local? I have LOCALBASE=/opt for a couple of years now. OTOH, I also have a symlink

Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-21 Thread Mike Meyer
I'm curious - is there some reason that the CDR ioctls (in /usr/include/sys/cdrio.h) aren't supported for MMC cds? It looks like doing them for MMC would be straightforward, it's the kind of thing that an OS is supposed to do, and it would allow people with MMC drives to cdrecord for the much

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-21 Thread Mike Meyer
Kenneth D. Merry writes: On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 10:54:49 -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: I'm curious - is there some reason that the CDR ioctls (in /usr/include/sys/cdrio.h) aren't supported for MMC cds? It looks like doing them for MMC would be straightforward, it's the kind of thing

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