On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:21:58 -0400
Allan Jude wrote:
> On 2014-10-20 17:15, Chris H wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:32:53 -0400 Mason Loring Bliss
> > wrote
> >
> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 02:58:57PM +0900, Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think the advantages of the forum are...
> >>>
> >>
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:20:20AM +0200, Lars Engels wrote:
>
> > Please register with your realname and I can give you the needed rights.
>
> A snag...
>
> When I click 'Logic' at the top of the page it brings me to the login form,
> which has a l
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:20:20AM +0200, Lars Engels wrote:
> Please register with your realname and I can give you the needed rights.
A snag...
When I click 'Logic' at the top of the page it brings me to the login form,
which has a link to
https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/newaccount/FrontP
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 02:34:13PM -0400, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 09:14:07AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote:
>
> > I agree that this would be useful, but it requires someone familiar with
> > both systems to write.
>
> Doing this stuff professionally, I could probably com
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 09:14:07AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote:
> I agree that this would be useful, but it requires someone familiar with
> both systems to write.
Doing this stuff professionally, I could probably come up with equivalences
for a number of Unices. What would be a reasonable path t
On 21 Oct 2014, at 00:15, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> The second thing that would be useful would be a series of cheat sheets for
> various things. This can either be equivalent commands or equivalent systems.
> Let new folks know that LUKS is GELI and that md-raid1 is gmirror and so
> forth. Sho
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 08:04:14PM -0400, Allan Jude wrote:
> > For instance, the page that talks about running buildworld and buildkernel
> > have some instructions that are evidently vestigal for root-on-ZFS people.
>
> Which parts? Nothing about buildworld is really any different when using
>
On 2014-10-20 19:15, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:21:58PM -0400, Allan Jude wrote:
>
>> This thread is supposed to be about how to make it easier for people to
>> migrate to FreeBSD from Linux. Not a discussion about forums vs mailing
>> lists vs newsgroups.
>
> I'm goin
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:21:58PM -0400, Allan Jude wrote:
> This thread is supposed to be about how to make it easier for people to
> migrate to FreeBSD from Linux. Not a discussion about forums vs mailing
> lists vs newsgroups.
I'm going to transition from being an avid Debian user who hates w
On 20 October 2014 15:21, Allan Jude wrote:
> This thread is supposed to be about how to make it easier for people to
> migrate to FreeBSD from Linux. Not a discussion about forums vs mailing
> lists vs newsgroups.
>
It turns out those things are intertwined.
It turns out that making it easier
On 2014-10-20 17:15, Chris H wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:32:53 -0400 Mason Loring Bliss
> wrote
>
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 02:58:57PM +0900, Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
>>
>>> I think the advantages of the forum are...
>>>
>>> *Well moderated by moderators and anministrators.
>>> *Registering
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:32:53 -0400 Mason Loring Bliss wrote
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 02:58:57PM +0900, Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
>
> > I think the advantages of the forum are...
> >
> > *Well moderated by moderators and anministrators.
> > *Registering email address is needed, but not disclosed
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 02:58:57PM +0900, Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
> I think the advantages of the forum are...
>
> *Well moderated by moderators and anministrators.
> *Registering email address is needed, but not disclosed by default.
The disadvantages of web fora include:
* I can't read things
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:11:50 +0800
Erich Dollansky wrote:
Hi.
I think the advantages of the forum are...
*Well moderated by moderators and anministrators.
*Registering email address is needed, but not disclosed by default.
These mean "no need to worry about increasing spams".
In cases off-
Hi,
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:01:30 -0700
Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Russell L. Carter
> wrote:
> >
> One complaint I have about the FreeBSD project, is that the core
> project contributors and developers rely too much on
> e-mail for communication. This certainly w
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Craig Rodrigues
wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Russell L. Carter
> wrote:
>
> One complaint I have about the FreeBSD project, is that the core
> project contributors and developers rely too much on
> e-mail for communication. This certainly works, an
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Russell L. Carter wrote:
>
> I love this idea. I recently moved back to FreeBSD after 14 years on
> debian, and was shocked at how great poudriere + pkg is for
> maintaining a consistent set of packages for a cluster of systems. (I
> know it's pitiful compared to
On 14 Aug 2014, at 02:34, Russell L. Carter wrote:
> So I would be very willing to contribute to this project, if that
> makes sense.
>
> Best,
> Russell
>
> (what list should this move to? Perhaps ports?)
I'd suggest docs. Note that currently, the docs team is the smallest part of
FreeBSD,
On 08/13/14 17:37, Thiago Barroso Perrotta wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:19:16 -0700
> Craig Rodrigues wrote:
>
>> Thiago,
>>
>> I really liked the blog articles you wrote:
>>
>> http://thiagoperrotta.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/here-be-dragons-freebsd-overview-part-i/
>> http://thiagoperrotta.wor
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:19:16 -0700
Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> Thiago,
>
> I really liked the blog articles you wrote:
>
> http://thiagoperrotta.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/here-be-dragons-freebsd-overview-part-i/
> http://thiagoperrotta.wordpress.com/2014/07/21/here-be-packages-freebsd-overview-part
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Thiago Barroso Perrotta
wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> First of all, hello. I intended to reply to [1], but since I am new to
> this mailing list, I found that it would be better to create a
> new thread (if any of you know how to reply to a mailman message
> without much
Greetings!
First of all, hello. I intended to reply to [1], but since I am new to
this mailing list, I found that it would be better to create a
new thread (if any of you know how to reply to a mailman message
without much trouble, I would appreciate to discover it).
I am the author of the post r
Greetings!
First of all, hello. I intended to reply to [1], but since I am new to
this mailing list, I found that it would be better to create a
new thread (if any of you know how to reply to a mailman message
without much trouble, I would appreciate to discover it).
I am the author of the post r
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Garrett Wollman
wrote:
In article you write:
>Writing "an article" is hard. Writing a small section on how deleting
>packages is different between pkg and, say, apt, is much easier. The
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Garrett Wollman <
woll...@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article you write:
>
> >Writing "an article" is hard. Writing a small section on how deleting
> >packages is different between pkg and, say, apt, is much easier. The
> >scope is known.
>
> Indeed, it'
In article you write:
>Writing "an article" is hard. Writing a small section on how deleting
>packages is different between pkg and, say, apt, is much easier. The
>scope is known.
Indeed, it's pretty trivial.
I think the sort of article Craig was looking for was more on the
order of
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
What I'd like to see is an article on freebsd.org either on the wiki
or in the handbook, which compares using apt, yum, rpm, whatever
to pkg. Is anyone interested in working on an article like this?
I don't have the bandwidth right now.
A person to
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Craig Rodrigues
wrote:
>
> For (2), encouraging people to move away from Linux to FreeBSD
> on the server, may be something where we can get more wins.
> I think we can do this by having more HOWTO articles on
> the FreeBSD web page that explain the following:
>
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 12:56:42PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I like it! It's a useful command line API.
>
> Eventually people will realise there needs to be a more formal method
> for describing/controlling the underlying framework, but I leave that
> up to bapt to figure out and .. we
On 7/18/2014 1:18 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On 7/18/14, 6:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
On 2014-07-17 16:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd
wrote:
Hi!
3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
4) .. whi
Hi!
I like it! It's a useful command line API.
Eventually people will realise there needs to be a more formal method
for describing/controlling the underlying framework, but I leave that
up to bapt to figure out and .. well, push people to do. :)
Thanks!
-a
On 19 July 2014 09:08, Lars Engels
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:10:34PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> On 18 July 2014 07:28, Lars Engels wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote
On Jul 17, 2014, at 13:00, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install
On 18 July 2014 14:21, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:10:34PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>
>> On 18 July 2014 07:28, Lars Engels wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:10:34PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> On 18 July 2014 07:28, Lars Engels wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote
On 7/18/14, 6:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
On 2014-07-17 16:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Hi!
3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install a
Hi!
On 18 July 2014 07:28, Lars Engels wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
>>
>> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>> > >> On Thu, Jul 17
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Baptiste Daroussin
wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar
> wrote:
> >
> > > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> >
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Craig Rodrigues
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I attend a lot of different Meetup groups in the San Francisco Bay Area /
> Silicon Valley.
>
> What I am seeing is the following usage pattern for new developers,
> especially for web apps and cloud applications.
>
> (1) On thei
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:07:39PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:57:52PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > On 17 July 2014 13:54, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, N
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
>
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hi!
On 2014-07-17 16:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>>> can't just
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 02:10:25PM +0200, Lars Engels wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:00:03PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi!
> > >>
> > >> 3) The binary
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:00:03PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> >> 4) .. which means, when you do things
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 09:57:44PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> > 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
> > can't just be installed and not be
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:57:52PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:54, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >
On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 13:21 -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 3) The binary pa
On 17 July 2014 13:54, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
>>
>> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>> > >> On Thu, Jul 1
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:21:32PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 3) The bi
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
>
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hi!
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd
> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 3) The binary
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>>
On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Hi!
3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
4) .. which means, when you d
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd
> wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> >>> 4) .. whi
On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>>> can't just be
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a
> problem;
No. Please NEVER do that! The u
On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a
On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a
> problem;
>
I disagree on this. For networ
Hi!
3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a
problem;
5) .. and then we need examples of actually deploying useful
scenarios, like "so here's what you t
Hi,
I attend a lot of different Meetup groups in the San Francisco Bay Area /
Silicon Valley.
What I am seeing is the following usage pattern for new developers,
especially for web apps and cloud applications.
(1) On their desktop/laptop, they will generally be using
a Mac running OS X.
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