Re: ipfilter fails to compile WITHOUT_INET6

2017-06-23 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <16738440-df50-0e33-2a50-340071212...@aldan.algebra.com>, "Mikhail T ." writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --DC959F413BFB254449706900 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On 22.06.2017 21:2

Re: ipfilter fails to compile WITHOUT_INET6

2017-06-23 Thread Mikhail T.
On 22.06.2017 21:20, Cy Schubert wrote: Can you try the attached patch please? Yes, replacing: -#ifdef AF_INET6 +#ifdef USE_INET6 lets the build succeed. Is it Ok to modify stuff under contrib/ though?.. -mi ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org

Re: ipfilter fails to compile WITHOUT_INET6

2017-06-22 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <2017060229.gd56...@wkstn-mjohnston.west.isilon.com>, Mark Johns ton writes: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 02:49:24PM -0400, Mikhail T. wrote: > > On 22.06.2017 10:28, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > > > Usually you only need the kernel from drm-next. > > > > Maybe, the scope of the GH-p

Re: ipfilter fails to compile WITHOUT_INET6

2017-06-22 Thread Cy Schubert
In message , Hans Petter Selasky w rites: > On 06/22/17 15:51, Mikhail T. wrote: > > Trying to build 12.0-CURRENT (well, actually, the next-drm Git branch), > > I get: > > > > /contrib/ipfilter/lib/printpoolnode.c:42:53: error: no member named > > 'in6' in 'union i6addr' > >

Re: ipfilter fails to compile WITHOUT_INET6

2017-06-22 Thread Mark Johnston
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 02:49:24PM -0400, Mikhail T. wrote: > On 22.06.2017 10:28, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > > Usually you only need the kernel from drm-next. > > Maybe, the scope of the GH-project can/should be narrowed then? > > On 22.06.2017 12:54, Mark Johnston wrote: > > I verified that

Re: ipfilter fails to compile WITHOUT_INET6

2017-06-22 Thread Mark Johnston
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 04:28:34PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 06/22/17 15:51, Mikhail T. wrote: > > Trying to build 12.0-CURRENT (well, actually, the next-drm Git branch), > > I get: > > > > /contrib/ipfilter/lib/printpoolnode.c:42:53: error: no member named > > 'in6' in 'union i

Re: ipfilter fails to compile WITHOUT_INET6

2017-06-22 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On 06/22/17 15:51, Mikhail T. wrote: Trying to build 12.0-CURRENT (well, actually, the next-drm Git branch), I get: /contrib/ipfilter/lib/printpoolnode.c:42:53: error: no member named 'in6' in 'union i6addr' str = inet_ntop(AF_INET6, &np->ipn_addr.adf_addr.in6,

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 12:49:36PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: J> Let's not make ipfilter some random one-off vendor source that imports code J> into random places. The remaining instances of that that we have (such as J> stdtime) are a PITA to deal with. J> J> vendor/ipfilter == userland bits =>

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-09 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 5:21:36 am Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 01:00:02PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > C> > The BSD license allows us to put the code into FreeBSD w/o any separation. > C> > > C> > So the question is: what is more handy to us? > C> > > C> > What do we actually

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-09 Thread John Baldwin
On Friday, July 05, 2013 4:46:49 am Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Cy, > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 03:10:14PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > C> Unfortunately it doesn't work any more. Here is what svn spit out at me. > C> > C> slippy$ cd $MY_WORK_DIR/current/contrib/ipfilter > C> slippy$ svn merge --recor

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Darren Reed
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: ... > No, userland tools should be placed in bin|sbin|usr.bin|usr.sbin, > according to the place where they are installed. An exlusion can be made > adding a intermediate subdir (like this is already done for ipfilter > tools), > to group all r

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Darren Reed
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Andre Oppermann wrote: > I think the main distinction here is whether the adaptions to > FreeBSD are kept local (resulting in almost a fork) or are fed > upstream so that successive updates require less or no local > changes. > > Having the kernel part in sys/netp

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 01:00:02PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: C> > The BSD license allows us to put the code into FreeBSD w/o any separation. C> > C> > So the question is: what is more handy to us? C> > C> > What do we actually gain having contrib/ipf, assuming we got vendor branch C> > already? C

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-08 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <20130708134400.gh67...@glebius.int.ru>, Gleb Smirnoff writes: > Cy, > > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 11:38:21AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > C> > What I'd prefer to see is the following: > C> > > C> > - commit new ipfilter untouched to vendor-sys/ipfilter > C> > - nuke sys/contrib/ipfilte

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-08 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <51da85cf.3000...@freebsd.org>, Andre Oppermann writes: > On 05.07.2013 20:38, Cy Schubert wrote: > > In message <20130705084649.gc67...@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff writes: > >> What I'd prefer to see is the following: > >> > >> - commit new ipfilter untouched to vendor-sys/ipfilter > >>

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-08 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Cy, On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 11:38:21AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: C> > What I'd prefer to see is the following: C> > C> > - commit new ipfilter untouched to vendor-sys/ipfilter C> > - nuke sys/contrib/ipfilter C> > - svn copy vendor-sys/ipfilter to sys/netpfil/ipfilter C> C> Having ipfilter in

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-08 Thread Andre Oppermann
On 05.07.2013 20:38, Cy Schubert wrote: In message <20130705084649.gc67...@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff writes: What I'd prefer to see is the following: - commit new ipfilter untouched to vendor-sys/ipfilter - nuke sys/contrib/ipfilter - svn copy vendor-sys/ipfilter to sys/netpfil/ipfilter Hav

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-05 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <20130705084649.gc67...@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff writes: > Cy, > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 03:10:14PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > C> Unfortunately it doesn't work any more. Here is what svn spit out at me. > C> > C> slippy$ cd $MY_WORK_DIR/current/contrib/ipfilter > C> slippy$ svn

Re: Ipfilter pre-Vendor Import Issue

2013-07-05 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Cy, On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 03:10:14PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: C> Unfortunately it doesn't work any more. Here is what svn spit out at me. C> C> slippy$ cd $MY_WORK_DIR/current/contrib/ipfilter C> slippy$ svn merge --record-only file:///tank/wrepos/wsvn/base/vendor/ipfilte C> r/dist@252548 C>

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-19 Thread Chris Rees
On 19 Apr 2013 10:46, "David Demelier" wrote: > > 2013/4/14 Gary Palmer : > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 09:48:33AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > >> Is it possible to move ipfilter into a port? > > > > That may work short term, but the ENOMAINTAINER problem will quickly creep > > up again as kernel AP

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-19 Thread Aleksandr A Babaylov
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:45:57AM +0200, David Demelier wrote: > 2013/4/14 Gary Palmer : > > Do we honestly need three packet filters? > > No, for me only one should be present. I completely understand that > some users still use IPFilter and IPFW but why providing three packet > filters? > > Th

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-19 Thread David Demelier
2013/4/14 Gary Palmer : > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 09:48:33AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> Is it possible to move ipfilter into a port? > > That may work short term, but the ENOMAINTAINER problem will quickly creep > up again as kernel APIs change. If the author has lost interest in > maintaining

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-18 Thread Cy Schubert
In message , Ed Maste writes: > On 15 April 2013 16:12, Cy Schubert wrote: > > The existing license isn't that BSD-friendly either, which is why it lives > > in contrib/. I think the 5.1.X GPLv2 is about the same friendliness as > > Darren's IPF 4.1.X license. As long as it's not in GENERIC shoul

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-18 Thread Ed Maste
On 15 April 2013 16:12, Cy Schubert wrote: > The existing license isn't that BSD-friendly either, which is why it lives > in contrib/. I think the 5.1.X GPLv2 is about the same friendliness as > Darren's IPF 4.1.X license. As long as it's not in GENERIC should be fine. > A person can always load i

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:15:49 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > It was pointed out to me that Darren Reed has changed licenses from > his IP Filter license that's been in IPF since 2005 or so, when he > joined Sun, to GPLv2 (probably when Darren left when Oracle took over > Sun). Given that IPF already

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-16 Thread Andre Oppermann
On 15.04.2013 19:48, Cy Schubert wrote: I did consider a port but given it would has to touch bits and pieces of the source tree (/usr/src), a port would be messy and the decision was made to work on importing it into base. Actually it shouldn't touch many if any pieces of src/sys. Everything

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <20130415212826.ga76...@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff writes: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 04:47:33PM -, c...@sdf.org wrote: > c> However it would of been better if said person asked me as I already > c> offered to take it on but whatever. Sorry, I didn't see your posting. I had a permis

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 01:32:48PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: S> > Given that IPF already lives in src/contrib and src/sys/contrib, would the S> > change in License from Darren Reed's own not so BSD friendly IPF license to S> > GPLv2 be of concern. I recall there was a lot of concern over IPF's l

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 04:47:33PM -, c...@sdf.org wrote: c> However it would of been better if said person asked me as I already c> offered to take it on but whatever. More manpower - the better. Why can't you work together? -- Totus tuus, Glebius. _

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <516c58ed.40...@freebsd.org>, Jung-uk Kim writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2013-04-15 15:27:55 -0400, Cy Schubert wrote: > > In message , Scott > > Long writes: > >> > >> On Apr 15, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Cy Schubert > >> wrote: > >> > >>> In message <18df

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Scott Long
On Apr 15, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message , Scott Long > writes: >> >> On Apr 15, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Cy Schubert wrote: >> >>> In message <18df99b0-6e66-4906-a233-7778451b8...@felyko.com>, Rui Paulo >>> writes: 2013/04/15 9:55$B!"(BCy Schubert $B$N%a%C%;!<%

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Cy Schubert
It was pointed out to me that Darren Reed has changed licenses from his IP Filter license that's been in IPF since 2005 or so, when he joined Sun, to GPLv2 (probably when Darren left when Oracle took over Sun). Given that IPF already lives in src/contrib and src/sys/contrib due to the 2005 licen

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Scott Long
On Apr 15, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <18df99b0-6e66-4906-a233-7778451b8...@felyko.com>, Rui Paulo > writes: >> 2013/04/15 9:55$B!"(BCy Schubert >> $B$N%a%C%;!<%8(B: >> >>> I've been planning on taking on IP Filter for quite some time. >>> Unfortunately I've left

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Scott Long
The desire to remove it stems from the inability to give it adequate engineering service as the network stack evolves. Simply taking it out of a kernel config file doesn't address that problem at all. If it's going to stay in FreeBSD at all, it needs to be maintained. This could be set about

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <20130415195544.gy76...@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff writes: > Cy, > > good news that you volunteered to work on this! > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:48:43AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > C> The initial plan was to import IP Filter 5.1.2 into HEAD. darrenr@ hadn't > C> done much with

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Cy, good news that you volunteered to work on this! On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:48:43AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: C> The initial plan was to import IP Filter 5.1.2 into HEAD. darrenr@ hadn't C> done much with IPF while employed with Sun. Since then there has been some C> development that is

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Jung-uk Kim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-04-15 15:27:55 -0400, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message , Scott > Long writes: >> >> On Apr 15, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Cy Schubert >> wrote: >> >>> In message <18df99b0-6e66-4906-a233-7778451b8...@felyko.com>, >>> Rui Paulo writes: 2013/04/15

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Cy Schubert
In message , Scott Long writes: > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Cy Schubert wrote: > > > In message <18df99b0-6e66-4906-a233-7778451b8...@felyko.com>, Rui Paulo > > writes: > >> 2013/04/15 9:55$B!"(BCy Schubert > >> $B$N%a%C%;!<%8 > (B: > >> > >>> I've been planning on taking on IP Fi

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
To my knowledge it is already off by default and you need these options to enable it options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG so to those that wish to have it removed from base, if it has a maintainer whats the trouble? On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > > Thank you to th

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
Thank you to those that have expressed interest in maintaining IP Filter.. My thoughts are, could we consider putting a option in the kernel config, and leaving it off by default for GENERIC? I think this is a acceptable compromise, considering some people wish for it to be removed. Sam Fourman J

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <18df99b0-6e66-4906-a233-7778451b8...@felyko.com>, Rui Paulo writes: > 2013/04/15 9:55$B!"(BCy Schubert > $B$N%a%C%;!<%8(B: > > > I've been planning on taking on IP Filter for quite some time. > > Unfortunately I've left my src commit bit lapse (my ports commit bit is > > alive

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Rui Paulo
2013/04/15 9:55、Cy Schubert のメッセージ: > I've been planning on taking on IP Filter for quite some time. > Unfortunately I've left my src commit bit lapse (my ports commit bit is > alive and well though) thus I'm looking for a mentor. In addition I'm > working on an ACER WMI/ACPI kld. One mentor w

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Adrian Chadd
ACER WMI/ACPI? Sure, i'll mentor you if you're going to do _that_. Adrian On 15 April 2013 09:55, Cy Schubert wrote: > I've been planning on taking on IP Filter for quite some time. > Unfortunately I've left my src commit bit lapse (my ports commit bit is > alive and well though) thus I'm look

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Cy Schubert
I've been planning on taking on IP Filter for quite some time. Unfortunately I've left my src commit bit lapse (my ports commit bit is alive and well though) thus I'm looking for a mentor. In addition I'm working on an ACER WMI/ACPI kld. One mentor would be preferred but two would be fine too.

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread cpet
However it would of been better if said person asked me as I already offered to take it on but whatever. > In message , Warren Block > writ > es: >> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Chris Rees wrote: >> >> > On 14 April 2013 01:41, Rui Paulo wrote: >> >> 2013/04/13 16:01?Scott Long ??: >> >> >> >>> May

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread cpet
Ok, seems someone has taken the job. > In message , Warren Block > writ > es: >> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Chris Rees wrote: >> >> > On 14 April 2013 01:41, Rui Paulo wrote: >> >> 2013/04/13 16:01?Scott Long ??: >> >> >> >>> Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done. If you >>

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Cy Schubert
In message , Warren Block writ es: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Chris Rees wrote: > > > On 14 April 2013 01:41, Rui Paulo wrote: > >> 2013/04/13 16:01?Scott Long ??: > >> > >>> Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done. If you and > Gleb don't want to do this, I will. > >> > >

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Olivier Cochard-Labbé
> > I have been very stubborn IPFW user for very long time, but finally gave up > in favor of PF. Nothing like that ever since. I am also not convinced IPFW > is any faster than PF. Hi Daniel, I know that measuring PPS for a firewall is not enought for comparing firewall performance (rfc3511 deta

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Mark Martinec
On Monday April 15 2013 12:32:37 Lev Serebryakov wrote: > And, yes, NAT64 will be useful for sure, but it is another story, > not IPv6<->IPv6 translation. Fear not, NPT66 prefix translation is stateless, this is nothing like NAT44 / NAPT. On Monday April 15 2013 12:51:00 sth...@nethelp.no wrote:

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: >> Hello, Kimmo. >> You wrote 15 апреля 2013 г., 14:47:24: >> >> KP> I'm however talking about an ftp client behind a very restrictive >> KP> firewall making an IPv6 connection an ftp

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 14.04.13 21:55, Joe Holden wrote: For non-nat ipfw is still superior in every way, numbered rules (think: scripts), dummynet, much faster than pf, syntax is a lot nicer and predictable... And, best of all, it still is buggy. At lest, it's tables handling is unusable. I have been very st

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread sthaug
> >> MM> ... and as far as I can tell none of them is currently usable > >> MM> on an IPv6-only FreeBSD (like protecting a host with sshguard), > >> MM> none of them supports stateful NAT64, nor IPv6 prefix translation :( > >> IPv6 prefix translation?! AGAIN!? FML. I've thought, that IPv6 will > >

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 02:50:23PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > KP> I'm however talking about an ftp client behind a very restrictive > KP> firewall making an IPv6 connection an ftp server that uses passive > KP> mode data ports that can't be known in advance. > Same solution -- inspection of

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Kimmo. > You wrote 15 апреля 2013 г., 14:47:24: > > KP> I'm however talking about an ftp client behind a very restrictive > KP> firewall making an IPv6 connection an ftp server that uses passive > KP> mode data ports that can't be kn

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Kimmo. You wrote 15 апреля 2013 г., 14:47:24: KP> I'm however talking about an ftp client behind a very restrictive KP> firewall making an IPv6 connection an ftp server that uses passive KP> mode data ports that can't be known in advance. Same solution -- inspection of connections to 21 p

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Kimmo. > You wrote 15 апреля 2013 г., 14:36:27: > >>> And, yes, NAT64 will be useful for sure, but it is another story, >>> not IPv6<->IPv6 translation. > KP> You're forgetting set ups where outgoing traffic is controlled by > KP> f

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Kimmo. You wrote 15 апреля 2013 г., 14:36:27: >> And, yes, NAT64 will be useful for sure, but it is another story, >> not IPv6<->IPv6 translation. KP> You're forgetting set ups where outgoing traffic is controlled by KP> filter rules, outgoing passive mode ftp needs help from the proxy to

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 02:15:36PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > >> >> Yes! This is the most clever thought in this thread. Why we need 3 >> >> firewalls? Two packet filters it's excess too. We have two packet filters: >> >> one with e

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 02:15:36PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > >> Yes! This is the most clever thought in this thread. Why we need 3 > >> firewalls? Two packet filters it's excess too. We have two packet filters: > >> one with excellent syntax and functionality but with outdated bandwidth > >>

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Kimmo. > You wrote 15 апреля 2013 г., 14:26:40: > >>> MM> ... and as far as I can tell none of them is currently usable >>> MM> on an IPv6-only FreeBSD (like protecting a host with sshguard), >>> MM> none of them supports stateful NA

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Kimmo. You wrote 15 апреля 2013 г., 14:26:40: >> MM> ... and as far as I can tell none of them is currently usable >> MM> on an IPv6-only FreeBSD (like protecting a host with sshguard), >> MM> none of them supports stateful NAT64, nor IPv6 prefix translation :( >> IPv6 prefix translation?!

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Mark. > You wrote 15 апреля 2013 г., 2:25:07: > >>> Yes! This is the most clever thought in this thread. Why we need 3 >>> firewalls? Two packet filters it's excess too. We have two packet filters: >>> one with excellent syntax and f

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Mark. You wrote 15 апреля 2013 г., 2:25:07: >> Yes! This is the most clever thought in this thread. Why we need 3 >> firewalls? Two packet filters it's excess too. We have two packet filters: >> one with excellent syntax and functionality but with outdated bandwidth >> control mechanism (ak

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 07:55:21PM +0100, Joe Holden wrote: > wishmaster wrote: > > > --- Original message --- > > From: "Gary Palmer" > > Date: 14 April 2013, 19:06:59 > > > > > >> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 09:48:33AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > >>> Is it possible to move ipfilter into a port

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-15 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:33:30PM -0700, Rui Paulo wrote: > It's not very difficult to switch an ipf.conf/ipnat.conf to a > pf.conf, but I'm not sure automated tools exist. I'm also not > convinced we need to write them and I think the issue can be deal > with by writing a bunch of examples on ho

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Jim Thompson
On Apr 14, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Mark Martinec wrote: > ... and as far as I can tell none of them is currently usable > on an IPv6-only FreeBSD (like protecting a host with sshguard), > none of them supports stateful NAT64, nor IPv6 prefix translation :( pfSense 2.1 has a lot of work to make this h

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Mark Martinec
On Sunday April 14 2013 19:30:22 wishmaster wrote: > > Do we honestly need three packet filters? > Yes! This is the most clever thought in this thread. Why we need 3 > firewalls? Two packet filters it's excess too. We have two packet filters: > one with excellent syntax and functionality but with o

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Rui Paulo
On 2013/04/14, at 12:11, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > A migration *guide*, yes. Tools to convert one syntax to another: no. > > ok, so what is the brief migraiton advice? It's still being written. > The Handbook mentions PF and IPFW. > I gather from your mails that PF is the recommended c

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
A migration *guide*, yes. Tools to convert one syntax to another: no. ok, so what is the brief migraiton advice? The Handbook mentions PF and IPFW. I gather from your mails that PF is the recommended choice. Is that so? If I choose PF, can I just follow the Handbook PF section, and once i

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Joe Holden
wishmaster wrote: --- Original message --- From: "Gary Palmer" Date: 14 April 2013, 19:06:59 On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 09:48:33AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: Is it possible to move ipfilter into a port? That may work short term, but the ENOMAINTAINER problem will quickly creep up again as k

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Odhiambo Washington writes: > 2. PF is being felt to be part of FreeBSD, but it too lags far behind > OpenBSD implementation - almost like it's unmaintained. There has been > debates about this which were never concluded. Most of you will agree with > me on this. FreeBSD's version of pf is active

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread cpet
Hi, I will see what I can do when I come back from work. PF is based on ipfilter so having 3 is indeed a bit much. Chris > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 09:48:33AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> Is it possible to move ipfilter into a port? > > That may work short term, but the ENOMAINTAINER problem wil

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Gary Palmer
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 09:48:33AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > Is it possible to move ipfilter into a port? That may work short term, but the ENOMAINTAINER problem will quickly creep up again as kernel APIs change. If the author has lost interest in maintaining the FreeBSD port of ipfilter then

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Chris Rees
On 14 April 2013 16:48, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Chris Rees wrote: > >> On 14 April 2013 01:41, Rui Paulo wrote: >>> >>> 2013/04/13 16:01?Scott Long ??: >>> >>> Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done. If you and Gleb don't want to do this, I

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Odhiambo Washington
It's NOT possible, because someone has to handle the kernel hooks, which is the contention. Mark as deprecated, remove the HandBook section, but only for 10.x On 14 April 2013 18:48, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Chris Rees wrote: > > On 14 April 2013 01:41, Rui Paulo wrote: >>

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Chris Rees wrote: On 14 April 2013 01:41, Rui Paulo wrote: 2013/04/13 16:01?Scott Long ??: Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done. If you and Gleb don't want to do this, I will. I already started writing a guide. See here for a very incomple

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Odhiambo Washington
I do not stand in any good stead to comment on this, but I have used IPFilter more extensively than PF when it comes to FreeBSD and packet manipulations. As a user, what I can say is this: 1. The only firewall that seems 'native' to FreeBSD is ipfw and I believe it works very well for some users w

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Scott Long
On Apr 14, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Joe wrote: > Rui Paulo wrote: >> On 2013/04/12, at 22:31, Scott Long wrote: >>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: >>> On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Lack of maintainer in a near future would lead to bitrot due to change

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Joe
Rui Paulo wrote: On 2013/04/12, at 22:31, Scott Long wrote: On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: Lack of maintainer in a near future would lead to bitrot due to changes in other areas of network stack, kernel APIs, etc. This already

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Rui Paulo wrote: > 2013/04/13 16:01、Scott Long のメッセージ: > >> Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done. If you and >> Gleb don't want to do this, I will. > > I already started writing a guide. See here for a very incomplete version: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ipf-d

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-14 Thread Chris Rees
On 14 April 2013 01:41, Rui Paulo wrote: > 2013/04/13 16:01、Scott Long のメッセージ: > >> Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done. If you and >> Gleb don't want to do this, I will. > > I already started writing a guide. See here for a very incomplete version: > > http://people.fre

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Rui Paulo
2013/04/13 16:01、Scott Long のメッセージ: > Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done. If you and Gleb > don't want to do this, I will. I already started writing a guide. See here for a very incomplete version: http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ipf-deprecation/article.html ___

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Scott Long
On Apr 13, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Rui Paulo wrote: > On 2013/04/13, at 5:03, Scott Long wrote: >> You target audience for this isn't people who track CURRENT, it's people who >> are on 7, 8, or 9 and looking to update to 10.x sometime in the future. > > Yes, I'm aware of that, but the problem re

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Rui Paulo
On 2013/04/13, at 5:03, Scott Long wrote: > You target audience for this isn't people who track CURRENT, it's people who > are on 7, 8, or 9 and looking to update to 10.x sometime in the future. Yes, I'm aware of that, but the problem remains. If ipfilter is broken or gets broken because of the

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Scott, On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:31:09PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: S> One thing that FreeBSD is bad about (and this really applies to many open source projects) when deprecating something is that the developer and release engineering groups rarely provide adequate, if any, tools to help users

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Scott Long wrote: > > On Apr 13, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Rui Paulo wrote: > >> On 2013/04/12, at 22:31, Scott Long wrote: >> >>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: >>> On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Lack of maintainer in a n

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Scott Long
On Apr 13, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Rui Paulo wrote: > On 2013/04/12, at 22:31, Scott Long wrote: > >> On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: >> >>> On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >>> Lack of maintainer in a near future would lead to bitrot due to changes in other

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-12 Thread Rui Paulo
On 2013/04/12, at 22:31, Scott Long wrote: > On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: > >> On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >> >>> Lack of maintainer in a near future would lead to bitrot due to changes >>> in other areas of network stack, kernel APIs, etc. This already happ

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-12 Thread John Hixson
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:31:09PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: > > > On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > > >> Lack of maintainer in a near future would lead to bitrot due to changes > >> in other areas of network stack, kernel APIs,

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-12 Thread Scott Long
On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: > On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > >> Lack of maintainer in a near future would lead to bitrot due to changes >> in other areas of network stack, kernel APIs, etc. This already happens, >> many changes during 10.0-CURRENT cycle were

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-12 Thread Rui Paulo
On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Lack of maintainer in a near future would lead to bitrot due to changes > in other areas of network stack, kernel APIs, etc. This already happens, > many changes during 10.0-CURRENT cycle were only compile tested wrt > ipfilter. If we fail to find m

Re: Ipfilter broken on -current

2003-10-04 Thread Udo Schweigert
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 13:01:31 +0200, Arjan van Leeuwen wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2003 11:21, Udo Schweigert wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> since a couple of days ipfilter is broken for -current. >> >> kldload ipl.ko gives: >> link_elf: symbol pfil_head_get undefined >> >> And the IPFILTER option

Re: Ipfilter broken on -current

2003-10-04 Thread Arjan van Leeuwen
On Saturday 04 October 2003 11:21, Udo Schweigert wrote: > Hi all, > > since a couple of days ipfilter is broken for -current. > > kldload ipl.ko gives: > link_elf: symbol pfil_head_get undefined > > And the IPFILTER option inside the kernel-config results in: > (snip) You should read /usr/src/UPD

Re: IPFILTER broken as of world/kernel a few hours old

2003-03-06 Thread leafy
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:00:22AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > I noticed that port 53 UDP (yes, UDP) gets through fine, though. > > > Try disabling delayed ACK in the TCP stack; it's a sysctl. > > -- Terry Been there, done that. No difference though. Jiawei -- "Without the userland, the k

Re: IPFILTER broken as of world/kernel a few hours old

2003-03-06 Thread Terry Lambert
leafy wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:22:29PM +0800, leafy wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:28:45AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > > Are you sure _all_ socket calls are slow? 5.0-R had reverse resolution > > > for sshd (which happened no matter what the configuration said) run > > All,

Re: IPFILTER broken as of world/kernel a few hours old

2003-03-06 Thread leafy
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:22:29PM +0800, leafy wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:28:45AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > Are you sure _all_ socket calls are slow? 5.0-R had reverse resolution > > for sshd (which happened no matter what the configuration said) run > All, including ssh. Only IC

Re: IPFILTER broken as of world/kernel a few hours old

2003-03-06 Thread leafy
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:28:45AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Are you sure _all_ socket calls are slow? 5.0-R had reverse resolution > for sshd (which happened no matter what the configuration said) run All, including ssh. Only ICMP responds in time. > connection arrives). If blackhole or fi

Re: IPFILTER broken as of world/kernel a few hours old

2003-03-06 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
leafy wrote: > With IPFILTER enabled in the kernel, all socket(2) calls > inbound/outbound are very slow. A normal SSH connection within the > same subnet takes 5 minutes to connect. Anything I can provide to pin > down the problem? Are you sure _all_ socket calls are slow? 5.0-R had reverse reso

Re: RE : IPFilter

2003-02-10 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 11:43:27PM +0100, Coercitas Temet'Nosce wrote: > Yes, kinda :p > > Thanx for all your answers btw > Are you getting confused between ipfw in Linux and ipfw in FreeBSD maybe? When I first saw ipfw I thought it must be old and obsolete, because it's been around for a long t

Re: IPFilter

2003-02-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-02-09 20:07, Coercitas Temet'Nosce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pardon my poor knowledge about IPFW 2 but if I remember well, IPFW > wasn't a SPI Firewall, which is what I need. Btw, previous Kernel > allows us to fine tune its building for IPF and now, it simply > gone...was really wonderi

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