Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >> The maximum for full-duplex is utterly irrelevant, since the bounds on > >> performance for half-duplex Ethernet networks come from CSMA/CD. > > > I will say it one last time, duplex falls out of the equations when you > > solve for ``maximal''. > > Nonsense.

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: >> The maximum for full-duplex is utterly irrelevant, since the bounds on >> performance for half-duplex Ethernet networks come from CSMA/CD. > I will say it one last time, duplex falls out of the equations when you > solve for ``maximal''. Nonsense. > It has 0 meaning in the numbers

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >> I answered SPECIFICALLY about half-duplex. > > > The duplex does not in any way effect the maximal link layer transmission > > data rate. You seem to keep forgetting the maximal part... > > The maximum for full-duplex is utterly irrelevant, since the bounds

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: >> I answered SPECIFICALLY about half-duplex. > The duplex does not in any way effect the maximal link layer transmission > data rate. You seem to keep forgetting the maximal part... The maximum for full-duplex is utterly irrelevant, since the bounds on performance for half-duplex Ethe

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > I specifically excluded P(coll) by stating point to point or effectively > > point to point via switching. > > Rod, please bother to READ what people write before spewing nonsense. I did read it, and did not spew nonsense. P(coll) is non-sense when talking ab

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > I specifically excluded P(coll) by stating point to point or effectively > point to point via switching. Rod, please bother to READ what people write before spewing nonsense. The original question asked SPECIFICALLY about half-duplex. I answered SPECIFICALLY about half-duplex. End O

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >> [I wrote:] > >> quite right. In a CSMA/CD medium access protocol, like that used by > >> Ethernet, the actual capacity of the link is always(*) somewhat less than > >> 100%; the exact value depends on the precise parameters of the > >> transmissions at both en

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 01:25:59AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > There was a patch of DC21143 chips it seems that has a very strange > > thermal problem. Can you tell me what your hub link lite is doing > > when you see this major slow down? > > Nope ... as this machine is connected

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: >> [I wrote:] >> quite right. In a CSMA/CD medium access protocol, like that used by >> Ethernet, the actual capacity of the link is always(*) somewhat less than >> 100%; the exact value depends on the precise parameters of the >> transmissions at both ends.(**) >> (*)In non-trivial con

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:13 AM -0800 2000/2/25, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > So infact the Layer 2 maximal data rate of 100BaseTX is 97.5929Mb/s or > 12.1912MB/s. I'll leave the Layer 3 to 7 calculation up to the reader, > as I am a hardware geek and I showed you how to do the calculations > at the hardwire layer,

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Pascal Hofstee
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 01:25:59AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > There was a patch of DC21143 chips it seems that has a very strange > thermal problem. Can you tell me what your hub link lite is doing > when you see this major slow down? Nope ... as this machine is connected directly to th

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 02:07:40PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > < said: > > Assuming you mean ``100BASE-T (half duplex)'' here... This is not > > quite right. In a CSMA/CD medium access protocol, like that used by > > Ethernet, the actual capacity of the link is always(*) somewhat less tha

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-25 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> < said: > > > > The theoretical maximum for 100BaseT-FDX (which is 200Mbps) is 25MB/s > > (megabytes per second), 100BaseT-TX is 12MB/s [FYI: Mbps->MB/s you divide > > by 8] I realize my punctuation may be off, but there you are. > > Assuming you mean ``100BASE-T (half duplex)'' here... This

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-24 Thread sthaug
> No, it is not. It is 100Mbps upstream and 100Mbps downstream. You cannot get > 200Mbps in one direction. FDX (Full Duplex) simply means that the RX and TX > cables are used simultaneous. Due to the small ethernet frame size, it is > next to impossible to get the full speed for data transmission.

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-24 Thread sthaug
> Ok ... we all know what exactly should be theoretical maximum and all ... > but that wasn't exactly my question ... I have having weird problems with > the network performance permanently dropping to below 100 kB/s (while still > in 100 Mbps/FDX). Is there anybody that could give a plausible exp

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-24 Thread Pascal Hofstee
On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 02:07:40PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > Assuming you mean ``100BASE-T (half duplex)'' here... This is not > quite right. In a CSMA/CD medium access protocol, like that used by > Ethernet, the actual capacity of the link is always(*) somewhat less than > 100%;

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-24 Thread Chris Wasser
On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 07:48:35PM +0100, Dieter Rothacker wrote: > No, it is not. It is 100Mbps upstream and 100Mbps downstream. You cannot get > 200Mbps in one direction. FDX (Full Duplex) simply means that the RX and TX > cables are used simultaneous. Due to the small ethernet frame size, it is

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > The theoretical maximum for 100BaseT-FDX (which is 200Mbps) is 25MB/s > (megabytes per second), 100BaseT-TX is 12MB/s [FYI: Mbps->MB/s you divide > by 8] I realize my punctuation may be off, but there you are. Assuming you mean ``100BASE-T (half duplex)'' here... This is not quite rig

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-24 Thread Dieter Rothacker
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:21:31 -0700, Chris Wasser wrote: >> Downloading an 128 MB-file from the network to /dev/null results in speeds >> like 9.8 MB/s (close to the theoretical maximum for a 100 Mbps network) > >The theoretical maximum for 100BaseT-FDX (which is 200Mbps) is 25MB/s >(megabytes per

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-24 Thread Peter Schwenk
Don't forget protocol overhead. Chris Wasser wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 12:04:38PM +0100, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > > media: autoselect (100baseTX ) > > > > Downloading an 128 MB-file from the network to /dev/null results in speeds > > like 9.8 MB/s (close to the theoretical maximum fo

Re: dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-24 Thread Chris Wasser
On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 12:04:38PM +0100, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > media: autoselect (100baseTX ) > > Downloading an 128 MB-file from the network to /dev/null results in speeds > like 9.8 MB/s (close to the theoretical maximum for a 100 Mbps network) The theoretical maximum for 100BaseT-FDX

dc0 wierdness with Compex Freedomline

2000-02-24 Thread Pascal Hofstee
Hello, I am experiencing some weird problems with the dc-driver for a specific ethernet-card ... the Compex Freedomline (10/100 Mbps). The card perfectly seems to autodetect the mode it should operate on and seems to indeed be working just fine just after the system has booted up. --[dmesg]