Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 08:10:57AM -0700, Bill Huey said: > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 10:24:03AM -0400, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote: > > Almost. It's indeed called Ant but has been developed under the > > umbrella of the Apache Jakarta project. > > I used it to build Tomcat tonight and it looks

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 10:24:03AM -0400, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote: > Almost. It's indeed called Ant but has been developed under the > umbrella of the Apache Jakarta project. I used it to build Tomcat tonight and it looks to be a very power package. bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMA

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Friday, Oct 4, 2002, at 06:26 US/Eastern, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-10-03 22:22, Mike Barcroft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ernst de Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> If most file formats would be XML-based (yes I know XML should not >>> replace all file formats, but it comes a g

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On 2002-10-03 22:22, Mike Barcroft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ernst de Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If most file formats would be XML-based (yes I know XML should not > > replace all file formats, but it comes a great way) then these > > formats would be leveraged by the fact that there

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Friday 04 October 2002 04:22, Mike Barcroft wrote: > Ernst de Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If most file formats would be XML-based (yes I know XML should not > > replace all file formats, but it comes a great way) then these formats > > would be leveraged by the fact that there are a lo

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 10:22:11PM -0400, Mike Barcroft wrote: > Ernst de Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If most file formats would be XML-based (yes I know XML should not replace all > > file formats, but it comes a great way) then these formats would be leveraged > > by the fact that ther

Re: expat2 in the base system?

Ernst de Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If most file formats would be XML-based (yes I know XML should not replace all > file formats, but it comes a great way) then these formats would be leveraged > by the fact that there are a lot of XML tools available, like XML editors and > XML transfo

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:57:59PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > The created mess that caused us to take Perl out of the base system is > > that it cannot be cross built. This library is C/C++ code; so we can > > easily cross compile it. > > I thought cross-building was

Re: expat2 in the base system?

David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:57:59PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > David O'Brien wrote: > > > The created mess that caused us to take Perl out of the base system is > > > that it cannot be cross built. This library is C/C++ code; so we can > > > easily cross compile it. > >

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 12:49:05AM +0200, Ernst de Haan wrote: > I interpreted the same as you. But the fact that the base of a UNIX system > uses XML makes that UNIX system more attractive than other unices, IMO. You would absolutely *love* Apple's MacOS-X then. It uses XML for many low lever

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Friday 04 October 2002 00:20, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: [snip] > > I believe the decision to put expat -in a wise manner- in the base system > > will show that FreeBSD is keeping up with major movements and that it > > will make FreeBSD more attractive to potential users. > >

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 12:00:06AM +0200, Ernst de Haan wrote: > On Wednesday 02 October 2002 22:05, Juli Mallett wrote: > [...] > > I seem to remember a discussion with Robert Watson and myself about a year > > ago where we discussed some sort of classy parser in libc for the MAC > > config files

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Wednesday 02 October 2002 22:05, Juli Mallett wrote: [...] > I seem to remember a discussion with Robert Watson and myself about a year > ago where we discussed some sort of classy parser in libc for the MAC > config files, etc., and we discussed XML at some point... Having libexpat > around m

Re: expat2 in the base system?

David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 09:37:36AM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > Well, playing the devil's advocate -- isn't this the type of discussion the > > preceeded the introduction of Perl into the base system, the introduction of > > which created such a mess that we finally to

Re: expat2 in the base system?

[ excessive cc: list attacked with a machete ] > > Well, playing the devil's advocate -- isn't this the type of discussion the > > preceeded the introduction of Perl into the base system, the introduction of > > which created such a mess that we finally took Perl out of the base system > > in -CU

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 09:37:36AM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > Well, playing the devil's advocate -- isn't this the type of discussion the > preceeded the introduction of Perl into the base system, the introduction of > which created such a mess that we finally took Perl out of the base syste

Re: expat2 in the base system?

> At 9:37 AM -0400 10/3/02, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > > Garance A Drosihnwrites: > >> > >> >I think it would be very prudent that any base-system expat have > > > >it's own name, even if it's just "expat2fb". > > > > >> It sounds to me like this sums it up nicely. The thing about it > >>

Re: expat2 in the base system?

At 9:37 AM -0400 10/3/02, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > Garance A Drosihnwrites: >> >> >I think it would be very prudent that any base-system expat have > > >it's own name, even if it's just "expat2fb". > > >> It sounds to me like this sums it up nicely. The thing about it >> I like is that i

Re: expat2 in the base system?

In message <007f01c26ae2$09b11ab0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matthew Emmerton" w rites: >> >I think it would be very prudent that any base-system expat have >> >it's own name, even if it's just "expat2fb". I have no opinion >> >on whether that should be the full expat2 or a stripped down >> >functiona

Re: expat2 in the base system?

> > Any famous last words before the fat lady sings ? I think we should go for it. :) > Well, playing the devil's advocate -- isn't this the type of discussion the > preceeded the introduction of Perl into the base system, the introduction of > which created such a mess that we finally took Perl

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > In message , Garance A Drosihn > writes: > > > > Any famous last words before the fat lady sings ? > > My biggest concern is the minority of users installing expat2 from > ports/packages and then not being able

Re: expat2 in the base system?

> In message , Garance A Drosihn writes: > > >I think it would be very prudent that any base-system expat have > >it's own name, even if it's just "expat2fb". I have no opinion > >on whether that should be the full expat2 or a stripped down > >functionality,

Re: expat2 in the base system?

In message , Garance A Drosihn writes: >I think it would be very prudent that any base-system expat have >it's own name, even if it's just "expat2fb". I have no opinion >on whether that should be the full expat2 or a stripped down >functionality, but I thin

Re: expat2 in the base system?

At 2:28 PM +0200 10/2/02, Sheldon Hearn wrote: >We're at a lucky moment in time, where there's only one version of >expat in the ports tree. But think about what happens when there >are two mainstream versions at large again. > >Please let's learn from past mistakes and give this library a >compl

Re: expat2 in the base system?

* De: "Andrew P. Lentvorski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ Data: 2002-10-02 ] [ Subjecte: Re: expat2 in the base system? ] > On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Marc Recht wrote: > > > IMO 1. would be better with a complete expat. So the ports could use the > > system ve

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Marc Recht wrote: > IMO 1. would be better with a complete expat. So the ports could use the > system version and probably/maybe the drift between the official- and > system-version will not be that big. And compared to Perl expat it > rather small. So the bloat couldn't be th

Re: expat2 in the base system?

On (2002/10/02 13:57), Marc Recht wrote: > IMO 1. would be better with a complete expat. So the ports could use > the system version and probably/maybe the drift between the official- > and system-version will not be that big. And compared to Perl expat it > rather small. So the bloat couldn't be

Re: expat2 in the base system?

> > 2. Under assumed name, "libxmlread" or something. This means that > > nothing which doesn't explicitly ask for it will get in touch with > > this version of libexpat, and that will only be the programs in > > the tree. We don't need to track the official libexpat (sort of > >

Re: expat2 in the base system?

Thus spake Poul-Henning Kamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > 2. Under assumed name, "libxmlread" or something. This means that > nothing which doesn't explicitly ask for it will get in touch with > this version of libexpat, and that will only be the programs in > the tree. We don't need to

Re: expat2 in the base system?

> Rather than write another monster filled with weird structs and enums > I decided that ASCII is very extensible, and putting XML structure > on top of it meant that readily available libraries and tools could > work on it. Yes, it's IMHO the best way to do it. > And in fact, I have every reaso

Re: expat2 in the base system?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marc Recht writes: > >Hi! > >I just saw the import of expat 1.95.5 into the base system. And >because expat2 is such a moving target I'm a little bit wondering >why this did happen. Isn't it better to keep such a beast in the >ports-tree? >Or is there a major confi

expat2 in the base system?

Hi! I just saw the import of expat 1.95.5 into the base system. And because expat2 is such a moving target I'm a little bit wondering why this did happen. Isn't it better to keep such a beast in the ports-tree? Or is there a major config-file to xml rewrite (or something similar) going on nobo